The Guzzi ReAwakening: Release the ELDO

Discussion in 'Some Assembly Required' started by lesman, Jun 3, 2017.

  1. lesman

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    Do you realize how much easier it would have been to start with a Calvin?
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    pennswoodsed lizards,bugs and me

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    Holy cow, the roads I let you lead me down !
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  3. Otis the Sasquatch

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    How about Klezmer music with an Italian accent? :johntm


    In! :lurk
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  4. lesman

    lesman Live easy, Brake Hard

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    Who doesn't love Klezmer music. I bet they could make big bucks on the BarMitzvah Circuit.
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    There are several groups that perform on the Eisener Steg (one of the foot bridges in Frankfurt). According to my German BiL they are all Romanian. If you can pronounce any tune in a form they understand, or hum a bar or two, they will set to with a will, sounds very authentic Klezmer to me. Perhaps it's just the accordion and wailing clarinet. Some will add some singing too.
    Well worth a few €'s.

    Over the last couple of days I have wasted whole segments of life looking through various ways to refresh the guzzi. Time and money. Money and time. That I don't have. Thanks.
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  6. lesman

    lesman Live easy, Brake Hard

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    Meanwhile back in EldoLandia
    I thought it was about time to add a little to my previous posting. So in my previous post I noted that there would be 2 Eldo's in the wild with USD forks with a standard Eldo Rake and offset triple tree. Here's where the uniqueness comes in. My Eldo would be the only one with USD forks and a rear disk setup. Lesman has now jumped the Rubicon. I am so jazzed and honored because my Eldo is a unicorn. I stole a cute little drawing showing how to draw a unicorn.
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    I found new music to be part of the official build thread. Life is good except I found another Looper with USD forks and a rear disk.
    Depths of despair. This Eldo doesn't have a standard Eldo Rake/Offset triple tree setup but it really is a turd in the punch bowl moment.
    You got give the guy an A+ for building the bike. He answered a lot of questions that didn't need to be asked.

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    Let me show a "few" things that I have done.
    The Nacelle needed to be milled about 10mm to allow the nacelle to be seated against the top plate
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    I marked the area in red that I removed material.

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    Fork Tubes flush with top plate

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    Rear Disk Setup
    I'm using a Quota rear wheel. It's a 17" wheel .This particular rim has 17 cracks in the rim. I converted it to tubeless. It worked great until the rim developed 12 cracks in a weekend. Guzzi shipped 200 Quota's to the USA in 1999-2002. Almost all developed rim cracks. Guzzi did an unofficial recall on 50+/- bikes then screwed the rest of the owners. I replaced mine with a California wheel/Caliper/Hangar. The front wheel is still good no cracks and holds air.
    I plan to use this Quota rear hub . I test fitted it up to the eldo rear end. It appear to work OK. All the Eldo bikes that I read about changed their rear end/swingarm/driveshaft and ujoint setups to facilitate having a rear disk. My problem is it possible to make this disk setup work when others don't even bother to try it? Here's what I was planning to do.
    Removed the paint on the rear hub.Polish the rear hub. Buchanon spokes and a 18" Borraniesque rim. I will be running a Eldo rear axle. It will need to be modified. I can't use the quota rear hangar. It would need so much modifying. I prefer to make (not really)my hangar. I'm not sure if I will be using the Quota caliper(it's a very good caliper). I have a 2 piston Tokico(it's a very good caliper) that I might use. I really would prefer a Brembo P34 rear caliper. The Brembo P34 caliper is strictly about style nothing else. There is a tube inside the rear end to offset the rear wheel. I used a custom 2.5mm washer on my Quota. MBT™ made this spacer/washer/shim for me. It kinda reminds me of the arguement is it a belly bag or a fanny pack? A washer will be needed or a new tube will be made. When I checked , Guzzi wanted $90+ for the tube(California model).

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    So I thought a Tonti swingarm was different from an Eldo. I thought the new swingarm would allow me to use the Quota caliper hangar.
    There isn't any difference between a Convert/G5 swingarm except for the stay for the caliper hangar. It wasn't very much money but you know that I must build a Tonti Guzzi because I have the swingarm.
    Notice the left swingarm on the right side the caliper stay/stop

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    I'm now getting into real time. The plan is fork stops, steering dampner mount and custom head light ears/shrouds.
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  7. lesman

    lesman Live easy, Brake Hard

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    I found a perfect song
    A Japanese band doing a Klezmer version of Zappa's Peaches en Regalia
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  8. lesman

    lesman Live easy, Brake Hard

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    There's something so wrong about this video/version of Enter the Sandman

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    lesman Live easy, Brake Hard

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    I didn't forget. Happy Father's Day to y'all.
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    Thanks, and back atcha.

    Thing is, I've got no kids... that I know of.


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  11. lesman

    lesman Live easy, Brake Hard

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    Are you sure? I met a guy named FR700JR.
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  13. lesman

    lesman Live easy, Brake Hard

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    WLW,
    My California Rear Wheel that I used on the Quota came from him. He made the exhaust clamps for my Quota, He's got the stuff.
    Thanks for thinking about me.
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  14. lesman

    lesman Live easy, Brake Hard

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    Just to let everyone know. I actually did some work. I will be posting Sunday night or Monday. To all the Guzzi riders that celebrate Litha.
    Happy Litha! I missed making it to Stonehenge again.
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    Are you sure......? :hmmmmm
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  17. nickguzzi

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    My partner's son's security company was there - doing security - to protect the celebrants. Although armed police were there, we know why there were no incidents.

    You should have come over. Apparently lots of visitors from overseas, particularly USAians, according to a reliable source.

    With the nights now drawing in, I expect you will soon be after topping off the midnight lamp. Cue wah wah.
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    I have "some"work to post. Got detoured a little after watching the new Transformer's movie. Mark Wahlberg is such a National Treasure.
    I'm not time traveling yet. If you have a little time check out WLW's ohm stories.
    Ohm I gotta go.
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    lesman Live easy, Brake Hard

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    I just screwedup my posting. I will redo it tomorrow.
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  20. lesman

    lesman Live easy, Brake Hard

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    Welcome back to EldoLandia where the Eldo is immortal.

    As everybody that has built a bike knows steering stops are the fundamental(mental) building block of bike building. Without steering stops there would be chaos. To bring order back to the most epic Eldo build ever. I embarked on the making of the steering stop bracket. As always a lack of talent& skills won't stop me. MBT™ has a plasma cutter.

    I'm using CAD10(cardboard aided design) to design my steering stop bracket. Along the way I decided the I wanted a steering damper. So this bracket will be multitasking. I originally wanted it to hold my brake line junction. After talking too much about the design . I , Lesman came up with an epic idea for the brake lines that will disclosed later.


    So here is my CAD design. You will notice one of my "cords" is off a tad trying to find the center. MBT™ came up with a solution.
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    I forgot to take pictures but here's what MBT™ thought up on the fly. He made a bushing for the triple tree stem hole. He drilled a hole in the center using his lathe. He used a transfer punch to make indention for pilot hole. He drilled a 1" hole in steering stop bracket hole. BTW, he made the bushing faster than it took me to make the CAD template. It kinda looks like Texas in a Florida way.


    The idea for the steering damper came from Greg Bender's site. A guy named Joe Jump made the original damper kit

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    Here is the bracket


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    The bracket came from some 1/8" scrap

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    MBT™ made a another bushing to center the bracket to weld on the stops. He welded the stops. I gave him the wrong dimensions. It had to be redone. You might write this day down...I made a mistake.

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    Mission accomplished

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    Some sadness occurred during the making of the bracket. MBT™ had a 4ft LED that was standing next to his welding table. I tripped and stepped on it . I snuffed out a beautiful LED light. I did not do this in anger. This LED light will be missed but not forgotten. As they say, You can't have an LED omelet without breaking a few LED's.



    Since I will be spending an inordinate amount of time on the front end area. The out of the box creativity will shining in the next installment.
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