The Honda Aero 125 Thread

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by RedArrow, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. Akais

    Akais Ride Hi-Viz

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    BanthaBob, welcome to the thread or welcome back. I assume you mean the black softer panels that go behind the leg shield and under the seat of your scooter. Usually those are made with a plastic called Polyethylene that is very hard to get paint to adhere to. If you want to use a rattle can then you can try Krylon Fusion or Rustoleum Paint for Plastic. I painted a Aero 80 that I restored with that and it worked well. On the black parts I used a rough black textured finish from Rustoleum and it looked close to the original. The only other type of paint that will stick to that plastic is 2 part automotive Urethane paint. That's the type you mix a catalyst in with the paint and spray it with a gun. You also have to use a respirator since that paint's fumes are deadly. If you are looking for a shiny finish or want to change the color of the panel, that type of paint would probably work best.
  2. RedArrow

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    Hi BanthaBob ~ Welcome to the Honda Aero Thread, as for painting we have done alot of signs on factory finished aluminum but I have never had the chance to paint scooter. Although Aero is covered from the destructive desert sun her painted panels are fading. Keep us posted on what works for you.
    ~ Red
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    Thanks Akais for posting this info.
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    I've repainted two scoots in the last 5 years, one silver, the other white, I used rattle cans after thoroughly flatting with various grades of wet/dry paper and being meticlous about dust, both jobs came out indistinguishable from new and are still as good. Careful preparation is the key to everything.

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  5. JerryH

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    Polyethylene is what they make dirt bike plastics out of. it is highly flexible and resistant to damage. It won't crack like the ABS usually used for scooter and motorcycle plastic parts, but is difficult to paint. However, I have found that Krylon Fusion works very well on this type of plastic. I repainted a couple of dual sport bikes with it, and it held up very well. You have to scuff up the plastic a little first, but the paint will not crack when the plastic bends. I actually wish they made all the plastic on scooters out of polyethylene. It doesn't crack, and the color is molded in. It would be especially great for smaller less expensive scooters. It's what the leg shield on Honda Cubs and Symbas is made out of.
  6. Wentwest

    Wentwest How's that work?

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    If you are talking about the black (or supposed to be black) panels, not the color panels, just wash them well and then rub Armor All all over them with your hand in a nitrile glove. Just rub it in, and then leave it there. Don't wipe it off. Tomorrow, rub it in again. The next day again. Use plenty. Then, the 4th day, rub down the panels with a dry rag. No paint required.
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  7. redhandmoto

    redhandmoto Been here awhile

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    mmm, yes, or - possibly - Mother's "Back to Black." have had success with dat stuff, me.
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  8. BanthaBob

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    I used a armor all trim restorer and it helped to darken the panel a bit but no where near black, although that was only 1 pass. I can do like you said and do 5 passes on it. These are the leg shield and engine shield panels, not the body panels.

    Thx for the tips, I'll have to keep at it.

    Also: @bmwloco, you spoke about riding home in 9f wet conditions and fishtailing. I put the bike away at 40f/5c temp. My question for the ice road bikers here, what temps do the scooter tires seem to really break loose on the roads? Oregon has a healthy covering of rain and that with the cold that keeps me off the bike at 40f. I worry about the rear sliding loose around a high speed turn.
  9. JerryH

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    I have found STP Son of a Gun to be far superior to Armor All for that purpose. I just spray on a bunch, and let it soak. Do it over and over again, until the plastic quits absorbing it. Some plastics are too far gone for that to work. Red, the red panels on Aero are made out of ABS plastic, and can be painted with regular paint. I painted a Goldwing with Krylon. It came out looking pretty good. You can also use acrylic lacquer, like Plastikote and Duplicolor on it, followed by a lacquer clear coat to give it some gloss. Lacquer dries REALLY fast. Some painters are really good at spraying a mist coat of pure thinner over dried lacquer, it softens the color coat, and lets it level itself out, leaving it shiny.
  10. RedArrow

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    PERFECT EXAMPLES!
    ~ Red
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    Thanks Jerry thats good to know about Aero having ABS plastic.
    Although I'm not sure about clear coating in AZ.
    ~ Red
  12. Wentwest

    Wentwest How's that work?

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    Whatever chemical works for you is the best, of course. I suspect they are probably somewhat similar. It does take several treatments to get there. I have also scrubbed them with fine steel wool first, to get a lot of the white stuff that looks like oxidized plastic to me. The steel wool does help, but it's a lot of work and a bunch of layers of Armor-All or whatever you chose seems to work fine. Just don't paint the soft plastic panels, because it'll never be right after that.

    I've painted several scooters, always with Rust-O-Leum 2X over gray primer. It works well once you get the system which, for me, is spray a thin layer, wait 20-30 minutes and spray a thin layer, wait 20-30 spray again, and again. 4 thin layers should be enough. If you wait too long between coats sometimes the whole layer of paint will pucker and lift off and look just terrible and then you have to get out the paper towels and wipe everything off real fast. I had that happen and it's awful. One time I had to spray another layer on just to get things soft again so I could wipe it off.
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  13. RedArrow

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    Good Morning all,
    All this talk about painting got me in this frenzy to paint all the floors in our house and I also hopped up on the roof and painted the Elastomeric roof coating which seems to be a reoccurring task every year here in the desert. Most places have heavy rain falls in the winter but here in Southern AZ we prep for the July monsoons.
    The weather has been beautiful we have been out scooting several times this week, both Aero and the Rabbit have been running supremely. Trails cylinder has been sent off to DRATV and we ordered a complete gasket set and the cam shaft seal. We are looking forward to putting Trail back together again...possibly we can get her to kick.
    Got word from Mr. Dabears and he will not be able to visit us this time in our little enclave Bisbee. Although I was excited to stumble upon this article...

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/tra...6/frommers-best-places-2018-bisbee/836871001/
    ~ Red
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  14. minimac

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    Cool! A suggestion though. Get rid of the Tourism Manager. People like that will ruin the very thing that makes places like that special.
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    Yeah, I’m bummed. Spent the week doing projects for the father in law, and a mandatory visit to a former neighbor who relocated to Tucson- pretty much shot the visit. Up freezing our tails off dry camping in Prescott for a couple days then over to Lake Havasu and then a rally at Quartzsite. Hopefully we will be doing another trip out this way in the not too distant future. Bisbee looks so cool- hope it doesn’t get spoiled by rich folks coming in to be in a happening place.
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  16. bmwloco

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    Been in the teens and 20's here as daily highs...

    And the Scarabeo still rolls on. The two stroke seems to really love the colder air intake too. Peppy even.

    Mind you, I have warm clothing, much the same as I wore in Antarctica (where I worked for 12 years). My Aerostich Falstaff wax cotton (with body armor) jacket, and very warm fleece lined gloves (SPG gloves from Catcus Climbing Equipment of Christchurch NZ). I've treated the leather with SnoSeal... I snow ski and use them for motorcycling and scootering.

    The high Wednesday will be 24F, the low 10F. Happily I don't have to work again until Thursday, when it'll be 40F/20F day to night.

    Like I tell folks, I can do anything for 1 mile. I can't warm the oil in my Audi or garage full of old BMW bikes, so the scooter makes the most sense.

    Besides, it's fun ;)
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  17. RedArrow

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    Hi Dabears ~ Bisbee is a really cool place. As I always say " There is not a lot here, but what is here is really good " Come back when you can.
    ~ Red
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    Good Morning!
    Well part of painting all the floors was to move the Puch out of the livingroom and get her out on the porch and start her up. Boy what a great little machine, she started right up scootrboi and I were pleasantly surprised but then we reminded ourselves this was Jerry's moped and we know that Jerry is meticulous.
    Tomorrow we will ride her, very excited about Puch.
    ~ Red
  19. bmwloco

    bmwloco Long timer

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    Oh, how I remember Puchs. They seemed to be everywhere in SC when I was a kid. We had family friends in Greenville SC when I was a kid. Puchs were the transportation of choice for 13-17 year olds... and of course, no helmet law in SC, so life is cheap and let 'em go...

    Most ran until they stopped, then got pushed to the back of the garage...
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    Hi bmwloco ~ I like Puch a lot, I like that she does not need a battery, what I do not like is she is probably the most stealable bike. I have her on the porch for some reason I can not put her out side in the pen with the other scoots. I think the Puches are vulnerable.
    ~ Red