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Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by NachoRoto, Mar 6, 2011.
That is great!
The paint has to dry before I can mount the tire. So here we go.
I did not plan to do the whole instal in one sitting. I planned to tinker after dinner for a n hour or so. I was on call for work. Which meant I could get called in at any time. So it was not the best time to do anything. I figured I would do some simple stuff. Save the hard stuff for tomorrow. So first I mounted the shock relocation bracket. It was very cut and dry. One bolt. The picture is worth a thousand words.
Next came time to mount the engine bracket. Call me dumb, but I assumed before I had the parts that the pivot of the motor would be the same. And that the bracket mounted to the motor to make it work that way. This is not the case. The bracket mounts to the frame in multiple point and motor pivot off the mount. So the frame must be prepped for the mount.
First thing to do is drill out these two holes. These are where the cargo tray used to bolt too.
For the most part this is the only drilling I did on my whole install. THe rest was pretty much bolt on/ plug and play.
Once the frame is done, its time to prep the motor. I was told to remove this part from my stock motor mount and cut it down to fit the GY6 motor. But found the new proper size spacer in my kit. So no cutting was needed. I just filled it down a touch to make it fit.
Once filed I put it in place.
Now for the hard part. Let put the motor in this puppy. I was all alone, and I lent a friend my floor jack. So lifting the motor and sliding a the bolt in was not happening. So instead I lowered the bike to the motor. Once it was bolted in I added the rear shock and lifted the bike back on onto the stand with a friend who came to check on me.
The motor was in. It took under and hour for this step. With 2 people and sharp bits it could of been done in a half hour.
Now it was time for the fun stuff. Carb, electrical and brakes. This stuff is all cut and dry. So I did not take any pictures during this.
I started with the brake line. Turns out its not long enough. I am not surprised. Most people use aftermarket bars on these scooters which free up lots of cable. I am going for that stock look. So of course I am about 4-6" short.
Next I mounted the wiring harness. It was pretty cut and dry. Except for the connector going to the fuel tank. Different years use different plugs. And mine did not match. I plan to solder the connector from my old harness on today. They did a nice job other then that. I am not faulting them for that. There electrical work looks great.
Once the wiring was laided out, I mounted the carb and air filter. The carb and vacume lines are simple. This took all of 5 minutes with cable and fuel lines.
These last parts went by so fast. I did not take any pictures. But if you took it apart, you should be able to put it back. The new motor is set back further on the bike. It makes it much easier to get to things. So wiring and fuel lines were much easier. I can adjust the carb without even removing any covers on the bike.
Next was my pipe. After playing a bit we realized I needed some hardware and spacers. The pipe is on the scooter now, but just by the header bolts. After typing this I am off for bolts, spacers and to have my tire mounted.
Anyway. After messing with the pipe last night, we realized there really was nothing stopping us from starting Hank. I was in a good mood and did not want to ruin it by trying to start him and it not working. But my step son came over a little after midnight and egged me on. So what the hell. Lets try. We turned on the key and every thing came on the way it should. Well sort of. On a 50cc scooter the lights don't come on until the bike is running. Now they come on with the key. And they are super bright. They are not RPM dependent like before. I am not sure how this will effect my battery.
It was time to push the button. To my surprise Hank fired right up. As if he had been running all day. Two turns of the motor and vroom. This made me very happy. He is running lean. But not too bad. I adjusted the mixture and it got better. But I am going to have to rejet for sure. I will know more after I take teh bike for a spin.
Well the paint should be dry. Time to get my tire mounted and give this a test ride. A test ride with no back brakes. This should be interesting.
Ben gives it his official seal of approval. He pissed on it. It's his now.
Ben and I took Hank for a shake down. We went about 10 miles. Stopping to visit friends. The scooter is much faster. Mostly noticeable in the low to midrange. The speedo on a Ruckus only goes to 40 mph. But the needles goes most of the way around. I will mount the gps on later to see how fast it goes. But for now I am enjoying my upgrade at normal speeds. I can pass people on roads that are 35mph. But everyone is going 45. And that's all I really wanted. To be able to keep the fast flow of traffic.
Time to ride. I will post more later.
looks good, so you going to change out the front wheel and add disc brake?
cant really tell though unless you look for it
That is one lucky dog! Very nice.
Yes. But it will have to wait for more funds.
One of the fastest Ruck -> GY6 upgrades I've heard of.
The build took about 6-8 hours working at a snails pace. I was in no hurry. The longest part was the wait for the kit. Tear down took about 2 hours.
The long story short. If you want to do this upgrade to your Ruckus. And want it easy. Buying a kit from Rucksters is a great way to go. The parts are all new. And the motors come from a quality distributer. Rucksters makes sure you get the right parts. But the best part of the kit is a full plug and play wiring harness. The worst part of these upgrades is merging the gy6 and ruckus harness.
Well it's not as fast as expected. But the jetting is not right yet. But considering it was me and the dog weighing in at 410 lbs. 48 mph ain't bad.
The phone may be a bit optimistic. It shows you went 497 MPH. Not bad...
what do they usually get, maybe you need to change the gearing. You could have a super fast scoot up to 55 then hit the wall because you need taller gears
does it at least accelerate faster then stock?
what is the sidecar on this rig?
I reserve (and often exercise) the right to be wrong, but that looks like a chopped and modded kid's jogging stroller to me.
Oh yes. It's much faster. Zero to 35 with no effort. Where before it wouldn't hit 30 with me and the dog. I weigh over 300. The dog is 80. I think its doing good. Jetting it better could give me another 5 mph. But maybe not. I did go with a stock pipe. So even with the uni filter. It will only flow so much. I wanna try stepping up one richer on both jets before playing with the variator and weights.
The Chinese scooters with GY6's often top out around 55-60mph. That's pretty low for a 150cc's in comparison to better made scooters. The fact that you and the big dog are maybe only 7mph under isn't unexpected.
It started life as a Chariot brand bicycle sidecar with a home built articulating bracket for the scooter.
Then I decided to build something better matching the scooter's style and able to hold 2 dogs based on the basic Chariot design:
Entire build thread is here:
Sorry for the thread jack...
AWESOME! I agree with you on the clean stock look. It just looks cool.
As for performance, thats about right. Your 400 pounds total, so 48 MPH is great. You shouldn't expect much more out of it, with proper jetting you may get to 50 MPH tops, MAYBE a little more. BUT thats plenty for what your doing! MUCH better than that slow old Ruckus redlining along at 35 MPH and taking its time to hit 25.
Mikegigabyte yes this is about the speed they hit the wall. My Elite 150 accelerates just great, but past 55 MPH it starts to hit real high RPMs and has nothing left at 65-70 MPH. These engines are designed to flatten out their power at those RPMs, so thats why it doesn't hurt them to go WOT. And the only way to gear it higher is taller final drive gears, and a 150 cc motor isn't producing a whole lot of power so I think the stock gearing is good for his weight.
approachbears yes a good 150 cc liquid cooled scooter should get to 65-70 MPH on GPS. But these air cooled low geared cheaper engines top about 55-60 MPH. But still thats PLENTY for the city and backroads unless your a speed junky.
But good job and great posts! Keep posting!
so now thats its 150cc can you legally take on freeways, or do they go off of the scooter model. I always wondered about that, where I live it must be 150cc or larger to go on freeway. always good to have that option even if you cant stay freeway speeds