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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Two Plugs, Nov 30, 2007.
Oh yes they do. Probably not sprockets but definitely chain In my experience.
I do believe that they do increase both lifespans. This been my experience, all of my friends experience and everyone I know on bike experience. I did use very good quality spray, as you noticed I said about 11 euros a can in bulk purchase. And I tried many. Yes, I lubed chain every 500 km, I did not mean that you did it every 500 km - it is my approach. Once in 1000 km is easy when you on clean roads and no rain.
But come on, with all my respect chain, that lives for 20 000 on Varadero with oiling ince per 1000 km with spray can means you have featherlight trottle hand. And I do not think you do, at least I never seen "slow and easy riding Dutch people" - mostly hard and fast riders. My VTR eats chains MUCH faster than that (until I put oiler on).
Or you meant about part of your riding in Netherlands and Germany where roads are VERY clean comparing to many other countries.
Spray can that lasts for 2 years for 2 bikes that do 10 000 miles a year? Wow.
How about slipping and sliding down roundabout because previous rider over lubed his chain with good quality lube and when it got properly hot it left slippery patch?
This is how one of my friends came to my garage to glue his Fazer 600 plastic together after lowsiding it...
Rubber do not eat tarmac. And if nobody else cares - why I can't? It is my personal choice.
Hello guys, this is my varadero. Trying it out on the gravel and the sand, and find it a big too heavy.
Welcome to the forum.
I'm sure you'll find the Dero great in the gravel as you gain more experiance although deep soft sand is a struggle.
It's a great bike and will give years of dependable service.
I am looking to buy a set of other pegs - for the gravel and sand roads.
Does anyone have experience with good ones, or maybe a tip?
ANd another question: does anybody know if it is possible to switch off the ABS?
Judging to your plate you are Dutch
Try www.varadero-international.com and www.varaderoclub.nl as well!
Bedankt! groet, Rik
I have installed a set of of these http://www.pivotpegz.net/, work great and are very comfortable.
thanx for the tip!
For those of you that are about to tackle this job I offer my story........2008 Dero......Purchased the bars from Dual Sport Plus in Hamilton......
I have read alot of comments by the other inmates here on what to watch out for and how long of a job this is. my wrenching skills are getting better but there was no way I was going to get feel my way through it in 3 hours.....
First of all ......had to disassemble the monster a bit........that was something I knew I had to do but was leary......:eek1
Side cowls.....and rads weren't so bad at all....the ultimate goal is the two hex bolts behind the upper portion of the rad.....the right side has a large bundle of wires going right by it.
This is the left (easier ) side bolt.
Right side.......see the wiring bundle....
Once accessible I had to move that wiring out of the way by about an inch.......and at first it didn't want to move at all.....
JimmieA said you needed a good grip on the head of this ......and he was right......My tool almost busted!
And NO I couldn't get enough torque on it the way it is in the picture.....
Here is the Motech Bar in place on the left.....
And the one on the right......
Chewed at the tape a bit........When I put the replacement bolt in things weren't lined up as nice so it was a bit of a bitch to get her started.......Hold wiring away...push against the bolt while turning ....keep it lined up.....Might be my inexperience talking here but it was a pain....:dog.......until i got that wiring bundle the hell out of the way....!
Some of you seasoned veterans might be chuckling to yourself....but this is a big deal to us noobs.....and it did alot to boost my confidence..... I am not afraid to share my self induced pain....lol
Zoomed out a bit to see where we are......
Sorted out all the pieces ahead of time......All the parts I took off were laid out on a carpet with the bolts in a bowl..I have been burned before by not keeping everything together....Love the instructions.....it looks like you can just remove that bolt as easy as you please...the artist forgot to finish that picture with the rest of the bike....
I took the tank off because I was installing Oxford Hot Grips too........thats another story.....happy ending though...
So the tank wasn't all that bad.....the two removed pipes pull off when you reach under there......they came off pretty easily too......If I would of really reefed on the tank before removing them they probably would of slipped off on their own....
I thought for some reason the tank was full....and preceded to try and siphon off the excess.....which after having the flow quit about 5 times....and me drinking a few ounces ..I hefted the tank and realized it was pretty much empty and I am an idiot.....It sure looked full from the top...??? Close the petcocks!.....And watch out cause when you put the tank back on they line up with the bar bolts pretty good and you could either open them up by accident or break them...
Hey that's where the air filter is!.......Gotta go in there one day......
Once the upper under the cowl...behind the rad bars are on you can reassemble ....and make sure everything will fit......The back bolts on to the frame are pretty straight forward......I used medium loctite and torqued them down after I did a trial fit.They both have spacers behind them so don't let them fall some where into the dark recesses of the engine area.......I was glad the tank was off when I had to get those bolts in....easier to hold the spacer in place....
While fitting the bars I held them in place with those back bolts loose and just pulled the bar up to couple it with the front....the left side bar would sometimes catch on a brake line bracket and it's possible to leverage some force on it if you are not careful......Be careful while swinging the bar up to fit it....
The inside cowl covers have to go in without the bars mounted.......be careful with those little plastic quick screws?....i mangled a couple pushing them back in.....or are they supposed to replaced??
I keep thinking the right side is too far off the plastic compared to the other side??
See what I mean.....Do yours look like that.....?
Final tie in at the bottom was no problem ...even for me....
Everything back together and I managed not to wreck too many parts......Solid too....I can see why they are able to do their job....Hope this gives others some knowledge going in ....I am not saying how long it took but the end result justifies the time....Thanks all !
Thanks for the description and pictures. I have the same bars on my bike and can inform that they do in fact work and provide good protection for the breakey bits.
The skid plate works well too, although you have to remove it for an oil change.
Hey Mark! thanks!
Post a pic of your bike in case I see you out there somewhere......
Or email......I guess not everyone wants to pay for a smug mug account....!
What changed in 7 minutes?
I cannot speak about SW Motech engine bars, but as far as GIVI engine bars go they're much more easier to install, indeed without taking apart the bike. Apart from being solidly made, they look the dogs bollocks:
I have the same bars on my bike and the distance off the plastic is the same on both sides not sure why mine are installed exactly the same as yours
Check. Idem here. Love the SW Motec bars. They are so much more solid than the givi copycat bars...
PS... Tip... please quote without the pictures...
SW-Motech Bars - good report
- Welcome to the bruised knuckle club You certainly stripped the bike down ...far more than I did.
- I used a "regular" Allen Key as I couldn't get a T handle type in there with the rads still so close
- The alignment Left & Right is fairly equal with respect to clearance of the fairing ...certainly within a mm or two. The left & right side rear bolts are not symmetrical so it may look a little different
- You make a very good point re: petcocks ...first time I removed the tank I spilled everywhere.
- Of all my previous bikes this one has to be most difficult (tedious) to work on with so much to strip down
- With tank off, I changed to a K&N airfilter and wired the Oxford grips
- I can testify these bars work ...I bent the left side :eek1 - no damage to fairing although the left footpeg did grind away. I replaced the Left side bar but didn't replace the bar up inside the radiator! ...I don't want to go in there again!
Now you've done the hard part....are you fitting panniers & top box?