The Honda XL1000V thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Two Plugs, Nov 30, 2007.

  1. Two Plugs

    Two Plugs Long timer

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    Not to mention... we also have the popular 1998-2000 MK1 and the 2001-2002 MK1 (both with carburettor) which are different too regarding the mountings...!
  2. africa twin

    africa twin Been here awhile

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    First ride of 2013 Happy New Year to all Varadero riders

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  3. RickS

    RickS Been here awhile

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    Dang I like those bikes. Wish we had them in the states
  4. VO1MX

    VO1MX Been here awhile

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    Lot's of fun on the demo :evil
  5. bruceca2002

    bruceca2002 Been here awhile

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    I wanted to put some extra pre-load on the forks springs and was surprised the right side had a spacer about 1.5 inches long and the left side had nothing. Both forks springs were the same length. Is one side for damping and the other side for compression? Thanks for your help. Cheers, Bruce
  6. *AL-VARADERO*

    *AL-VARADERO* Long Dist Adv/Tour

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    Greetings my fellow Varadero riders. :freaky Photo taken in upper Manhattan, New York City, USA!

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  7. africa twin

    africa twin Been here awhile

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    Looking good
  8. africa twin

    africa twin Been here awhile

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    Its normal for one side to have a spacer and the other not to, the forks are different internally. If you want to stiffen the front end you can add additional spacers or better yet install stiffer aftermarket springs. Another trick that I've seen used is to use an appropriately sized engine valve spring instead of a spacer. Valve springs are typically quite a bit stiffer than fork springs and so function similarly to a spacer but with a little more protection against coil bind in the fork spring by adding a little extra movement at full compression.
  9. pedro portugal

    pedro portugal n00b

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    hello, i´m pedro from Portugal.
    my motorcycle is an Honda Varadero 1000 .
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  11. Ghostbrother

    Ghostbrother Been here awhile

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    My new roadwarrior.
    Honda Varadero XL 1000 SO (Super Offroad)


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    (This is a sketch)
    During construction, is expected to be test-run 1/5 13
    Marzocchi fork 45x270mm
    Excel 19 "and 21"
    Custom-built saddle.
    New lightweight exhaust pipe and silencer.
    estimated weight of the first phase around 200 kg empty.
    Red / Silver.
    etc.


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  12. mousitsas

    mousitsas Long timer

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    Very interesting project, but to be honest, I think your weight estimate is a bit optimistic.
    However, I am so looking forward to see it!
  13. Ghostbrother

    Ghostbrother Been here awhile

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    Sorry I forgot to tell you that the original weight empty is 216.4 kg at my 2001 (if my scale function correctly, and it is 220 kg in the registration certificate, recent model with abs o 6 gears weighs around 260 kg) just to change exhaust, fork, brakes (from 2 big calipers with combination pump and valves, triple hoses, etc. etc.., to a small light ktm 950 see calipers) and wheels with double dics and heavy chain sprocket is probably more than 16 kg, so around 200 kg is not impossible i think.

    In this phase, the first step, it's okay, weighing around 200 kg in the next leg, with new alu rear frame, upgraded air filter, maybe a smaller gas tank, plastic, etc., I am aiming for 195 kg approx. Phase two begins now I November-December 2013.

    Photo from the scale comes when our snow and cold is gone.

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    This tour goes on a 245 kg bike with 19 "front wheel so I'm not worried about the weight, weight challenges me to drive with driving technique rather than the routine.

    Please ... Listen a little extra on engine noise!
  14. bluesman

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    It's entirely possible BUT you will have to chop off much more than your sketch showing and add some.
    If weight is importan - CF sump guard is a must for that motor.
    Tank is not lightest one too.
    Footpegs assemblies kinda fragile and massive at same time - can be easily replaced by machining simpler ones and making same tabs for swingarm axle.
    Fully agree - rear hub is lead heavy, but twin disks are not really culprit. Rear wheel as you probably noticed caryy XX more weight because of sprocket carrier. Calipers are not light ones thou and nice Beringer etc. would save a lot of weight.
    It would be great if you can turn that Battlecruiser into Starfighter :) I always wanted to do it myself, but did not come across cheap accident Vara.


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  15. mousitsas

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    Ghostbrother, it would be really nice to know the weight of rolling frame (engine+frame+suspension+wheels), if its not too much of a hussle for you.
    As a reference, the weight of a 950SE without fuel and with lightweight mufflers is around 180 kg. If you manage to keep it at 200Kg dry you will end up with a very interesting ride, but like Bluesman said, you will have to get the hacksaw ready.
  16. Ghostbrother

    Ghostbrother Been here awhile

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    190-195 kg depending on version weighed my 950 empty.
    Regardless of the end result, I think Varaderon are enjoyable bar experience when it is finished. Probable is that very few firefighters who will run it ... Or even see it run ... because the owner driving way too fast for it :)
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    Seriously ... please come to my aid, I think we all need it in any form whatsoever and I want to do it in somewhat right direction .... The saw is ready, it is widely used at times, a little too frequently maybe .... But not on the bike then!
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    Honda engine weighs 67-72 kg
    Ktm engine weighs 56-62 kg Depending of what different manufacturers choose is the engine! This is not my information.
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    Glad to have you with me here, the project is exciting, this is the first Honda I own and of course I have a lot of negative perceptions of the subject Honda, overly safe and secure, a lot of unnecessary things, heavy and troublesome. But I may change my mind, at least in terms of this model of Varaderon, after rigorous tests in the forest, it has been very surprising.

    More pictures during construction will if you want it.

  17. bluesman

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    Wait a sec...Honda motor on photo that's RC51 VTR1000. Totally different motor, not a single common part. Gears driven shafts.

    Firestorm derived Vara engine is tad lighter.
  18. Two Plugs

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    Varadero engine is based on the Firestorm engine, thats right, but it isn't lighter! It is detuned: less BHP, more torque at lower Reffs than the Firestorm engine. The architecture of both engines is however, similar and based on the same platform.
  19. bluesman

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    This is not what I said. I said that photo shows RC51 engine that have nothing in common with Firestorm or Varadero. RC51 is vtr1000 without f. It is totally different bike and it have a bit heavier motor.
  20. Two Plugs

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    Last weekend, after a winter which lasted too long, I took the Varadero out for its first ride this year.

    Just a short stretch of about 220 km, testing the new Dero and my new Nikon remote control. Enjoy!

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    Start of the tour in our province capital city Groningen with its famous landmark on the background: "The Old Grey" (D'Oale Grieze), the bell tower of the Martini Church.

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    In Groningen Province we don't do Whiskey or beers. We do a proper Gin (Jenever) and the best of all comes from Groningen: the Hooghoudt distillery just outside Groningen city. Hooghoudt means 'High Timber' which is a small, pedestrian wooden bridge over the channels.


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    The 15th century church of Noordlaren, on the shores of Lake Zuidlaren (Zuidlaardermeer)

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    Passing the border between the provinces of Groningen and Drenthe from Noordlaren to Midlaren, you will pass the oldest tree of Drenthe; estimated on a staggering 1.500 years!

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    One of the 35 ancient burial sites for which Drenthe province is famous; dating back 5.000 years BC and so older than the Egypt Pyramids and Stonehenge! They are all public accessible; this one lies near the villages of Taarlo and Loon. The largest one lies near the village of Borger.

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    Its about time for spring to kick'in!

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    Village of Anderen, where you will find the oldest thached farmhouses of North West Europe, dating back to the 13th century and typical for Drenthe Province. The material used for thaching is in the Netherlands normally water-reed, harvested in wintertime when the lakes are frozen solid.

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    Near the Dwingeloo radio telescope, on the edge of the Dwingelderveld National Park (the largest wet heathland in Western Europe), the use of mobile phones is strictly forbidden. There is even an official roadsign!

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    At the Radio telescope (RT). Build in 1956, and based on a old German 'radarspiegel' it was declared a top 100 National Monument of Sience in 2009. It was the first- and largest fully movable RT in its days. The RT has undergone a € 2.000.000,- restoration in late 2012 and is fully operational.

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    Heading back home!