the Honda XR150L thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by damasovi, Dec 4, 2014.

  1. rindolphus

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    Truly great video!!
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  2. rindolphus

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    I'm not sure it could be that, but in my case, that clatter started to happen, and it turned out that the little rubber inserts where the headlamp clamps sit (below the lamp) fell off. I bought new ones for 3 dollars each at the dealership, and superglued them to the fork assembly. Maybe it's that.
  3. TheExpat

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    Yep looks shiny like new! lol... Funny how much different it looks without all that stuff I have on mine... lol.... I now have THREE TUBES on mine....
    My XR150L-5.JPG
    Gotta have an extra tube for the sauce lol... This is the rainy season here too. It will rain just about everyday in the afternoon if not starting in the early morning. But I manage to get out for some short rides.... There are no "Do it yourself" car washes here... They have "Car wash places" where they charge about $1.75USD to wash your bike and about $3.00USD to do the car..hahaha....
    Otherwise your on your own!..

    The Guard was compliments of @Shivanshu ... He showed me photos of the company that was going to do his luggage racks and they had that bar... I just had the "Pinoy" version made at the fabrication shop near me lol... Now Shivanshu has the complete set up too... Looks cool... Anyway... Good to have you back on line...
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  4. TheExpat

    TheExpat Retired & Lov'in It!

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    Yeah that noise started on mine too... Sounds a little like when the fork extends to its full length it is stopping hard... Started after they serviced it.... Doesn't make noise if you press on the fork.... it is when the fork comes back up... and not when they are testing it by compressing it......
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  5. rindolphus

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    Yeah, here it was about $4.00 with the added steamer to degrease. Of course, a guy did it. I haven't properly washed my own vehicles since 1997 LOL Other than hosing down the mud when coming back.

    Yeah, The Guard (TM) by Shivanshu looks fantastic on both your bikes.
  6. TheBoogeyman

    TheBoogeyman Pretty young to want a GS

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    Thanks for the info sir. Will definitely look into that tomorrow. Will send the kids to their grandparents tomorrow so the wife can do the laundry and I can work on it. By the way, love how those handguards looked on yours. I was looking at maybe the Polisport Baja but they're kinda pricey for me at the moment. I found fake ones for sale around my parts here just like yours at just a fraction of the original price. I might bite into that.

    Yes, finally, that's the description I was looking for. haha. It precisely like that.

    Anyways, in a bit of a tight situation with maintenance as I am due for an oil change, an oil filter cleaning, and an air filter replacement, chain trimming or total replacement, and brake checks. I'll be looking for cheap oil today and will replace it next month and then have the chain snipped. So, again, nothing fancy done for my bike this year. Just usual PMS.

    Have a nice weekend gents.

    -Andrew
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  7. TheExpat

    TheExpat Retired & Lov'in It!

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    SEEMS THERE IS A RASH OF THIS ISSUE ON THE WEB:
    There HAS TO BE a COMMON PROBLEM HERE...

    ON ANOTHER FORUM I FOUND THIS:

    Hey guys, I recently purchased a Honda CR250R. The first time I took it out to ride I noticed that there was a slapping or clunking noise coming from the front forks after you would go over a big log or rock and the forks would rebound. It almost seems like the rebound is too quick which is causing the noise but I am not sure of that. After looking at the forks, I noticed that the rod on one of them was slightly wet indicating that the seal was going bad. So I chalked the noise up to the leaky fork seal and figured that the fork was just low on oil.

    I went ahead and disassembled the forks so that I could change the seals. Both forks had substantial amounts of fluid in each one at the time of disassembly. Nothing inside either fork was broken, scored, or otherwise screwed up that I could tell and all of the parts were present as per the drawing in the service manual.

    I reassembled the forks and used 5W Honda HP fork oil. I took the bike out again to test it out and the slapping noise is still there. It is not very bad and the bike seems to handle ok, but I would like to figure out why it does this. I played with the rebound adjustments on both forks and was able to get it a little better by screwing the clickers in (clockwise) to about 5 clicks from full in.

    One other thing I should mention is that the springs inside the forks are the 'stiffer' springs as indicated by the hash marks on the end of the spring. I can't remember exactly but I think they are .47kg as per the service manual.

    Anyway, I am wondering if anyone could give some advice on this issue, what is causing it, and how to rectify it? Would switching to a heavier weight oil like 10W help out? Does it sound like there is something mechanically wrong inside the forks that I could not see from a normal disassembly?

    Thanks in advance for any help!

    When I had my fork serviced they used this PHOENIX CYCLE FORK OIL I purchased because I did not want them to use 2T (2 Stroke oil) in the fork.. Seems a little thin...
    Selection_001.jpg

    I may end up swapping this out with 2T as it IS THICKER...
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  8. TheExpat

    TheExpat Retired & Lov'in It!

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    I've contacted and created a case number with Honda Corp. I stated the issue with the fork and requested any information on recalls, known issues with the Honda XR150L...
    We'll see what they say... (beside FOAD!)

    Case created successfully.
    CASE CREATED: - 06350707

    Had the front forks serviced at dealer... Now
    feel and hear a loud clunking noise from forks
    when riding over bumps... This is a complaint
    listed by MANY RIDERS of the Honda
    XR150L after servicing their front forks? Is
    there any issues or recalls we should be
    aware of? All service has been completed at
    dealer...

    This issue is making the ride of this bike
    unstable and I do not think it is normal... Too
    many others are expressing the same
    problem??
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  9. rindolphus

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    A recall sounds like an impossible thing in this country at least for the next hundred years LOL. Much success with your issue.
  10. Shivanshu

    Shivanshu Been here awhile

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    This problem is everywhere, even here in India, many riders have faced the same issue. When I went to my mechanic, he said the fork oil used is thin that means the damping is not done properly, so he gave me 2 ideas to either get a spring fitted on outer side of the front shock or put thick fork oil of heavy grade and see. I opted for the second one, and the result was better than what was previously there. So try it and see how they work.

    You are lucky that Honda supports you guys their, here we are on our own and hence need to experiment a lot.
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  11. TheExpat

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    Shivanshu,

    lol.. Well I'm not sure I'd say Honda supports us here exactly... :-)
    I am a pest when it comes to companies not providing service and support to its customers.lol....
    But I DO KNOW the fork oil I had them use when I serviced the forks seems real thin... Even 2T is thicker.. I did the pour samples on a plate and see which one runs faster test and 2T is slower IE:Thicker.... I'll see about changing the oil and see how that works out... Thanks for your info... We ALL can benefit from each other here... :D :ricky
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  12. TheExpat

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    This morning I went out looking for “Better” Fork oil.

    Naturally I did not find any in this “Farm Town” but I did get a liter of SHELL 2T Advanced oil and came home, Jacked the bike up, Removed the fork tubes from the triple tree, Took off the top caps, Removed the fork springs, DRAINED THE FORK OIL that was in there... It was like water, And BLACK? But I pumped the fork to remove ALL the oil I could. I then measured what amount of oil came out... In my measuring cup it was about 225 ml. The manual states 180 something...?? What ever... I replaced the same amount with the 2T oil. Pumped the forks to get the air bubbles out, let them sit for a while to settle, then re-installed the forks back on to the bike...


    PRELIMINARY FINDINGS:


    1. YES IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE...

    2. NO IT DID NOT SOLVE ALL THE ISSUES, But the fork noise is WAY LESS and if I could find oil that was about 15W I think it would be perfect 20w may be even better....


    These forks HAVE NOTHING inside them really... The oil and the spring is all that controls the ride... Just a BASIC SIMPLE FORK... My Mountain Bike has a better fork assembly lol...

    Hey, Dah.. Maybe just buy Mountain Bike Fork oil: (IF I CAN FIND IT) lol...
    OR This might work too IF AVAILABLE...
    https://www.sportbiketrackgear.com/ohlins-10w-fork-oil-1-liter/

    Just in case anyone cares.... Here is what I used for the fork oil.. It seems to have improved the situation 90%...

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  13. Pabloelloco18

    Pabloelloco18 Been here awhile

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    Got the new tire mounted and so far I've had 2 brand new tubes go flat...my tire is tubeless.. model.. could that be the reason or just bad quality tubes or badly installed...aslo notice that my bike is missing the washer that goes before the nut on the axle...should I worry about it or are the originals sold

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    Wow What Luck!!! lol... Should NOT normally be an issue! I have run tubeless rims with tubes and tube type tires with no issue... The Shinko E-705 110/80-19 I ran on the front was a tubeless tire with a tube in it and there were NO ISSUES! I don't see why you would have such problems unless as you said the tubes are cheap or they installed them and did not pay attention and pinched them...

    For the "Washer... I'm not sure what purpose it serves but its shape indicates it has a purpose... I believe it keeps the nut from spreading the opening and thus causing issues....I'd ask the place where you had the tires changed? It may be laying there... lol...
    Here is the part number:

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  15. Shivanshu

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    Just see if the tyre line is settled properly in the rim or not. Also check for any dent or gapping in the rim. The tubeless doesnt run out of air like this. Tyre using a soap water and put on the side wall of the tyre where it goes in the rim, if there is a leak bubbles will come out.
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    Pabloelloco18 Been here awhile

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    I'm using a tube with it ...haven't had the chance to go the mechanic will check it out in few hours see what's up
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    Pabloelloco18 Been here awhile

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    Got it fixed up...seems to be the tubes ...let see if this one last more
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    As I said, Never had an issue running tubeless on a tube rim with a tube in it... Hope this was the last problem you have with them...
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    As I said, Never had an issue running tubeless on a tube rim with a tube in it... Hope this was the last problem you have with them...
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    Well this is typical!

    Here is the answer I got from Honda Motorcycle about the front fork issue.....

    Dear Mr. Sutton,

    Thank you for submitting your web form to American Honda Powersports
    Customer Support. Since you reside in a country outside of the United
    States, and your product is a non-U.S. model, we cannot assist. We
    recommend you take your unit to the servicing dealer to have your unit
    inspected. You may also visit our Honda Worldwide web site,
    http://world.honda.com/group/index.html, for more information. Thank you.

    Sincerely,
    AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.
    Akira MHKO
    Powersports Customer Support

    :dirtdog:dhorse:topes
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