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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Lost Roadie, Apr 18, 2012.
Shotgun,,, I mean dibbs,,, I mean.. put me on the list
Awesome, you get a couple good products with solutions to our needs, you shall be one popular fellow around here....
I've had my 390 up to 90 and a lot of time at 70-75mph (with and without luggage) and no wobbles or headshake at all. May have to do with your tire type, suspension preload and sag settings, fork position, etc. Lots of factors. The 2011 and I think 2010 IIRC were given a less twitchy frame geometry. The Scotts stabilizer is nice in that even when you turn it way down, it still blocks the big hits.
I'd be interested in just the oil inlet/outlet fitting so I could tap my frame for oil. I like that idea a lot. Baja Dad will your skid plate liquid container be able to be filled with oil and recirculated in the engine?
Scotchloks! Hey Finn, send me your address and maybe I'll send you a soldering iron and some heat shrink for Christmas
I was thinking the exact same thing.. wouldnt want those up there where everything is always getting wet.. well on my bike it is always getting wet because I drop it in big mud puddles
You can call Force Accessories up or email them, they sell them on request, but only make them on demand so it's a couple weeks lead time is all.
Give mw a little time!!
I am working on them
But I am also trying to bulid our Baja1000 bike and prep our Pre run Bikes..
I would think around Mid OCT.
Sorry I am Slamed !!!
I see Stephan has finally put them in his web shop so I guess they must be available? I know he was working on incorporating some improvements based on feedback from us - maybe check with him by email.
The prices there include 19% German VAT so for outside the EU it should be €300 which is about $385. I'd say that's very reasonable for the high end materials and amount of work, nothing bent on there, only laser cut and welded pieces of 7 series aluminum.
I recently fitted two quart sized bottles of Motorex (one was 3/4 full), my tire levers, an oil filter and a small bolt kit in there, so if you had something that would fill the shape better like a bigger MSR dromedary bag you should probably get 3 liters of liquid in there - enough for two oil changes?
Regarding the oil cooler, I think Berglund is selling the adapter pieces for the engine block separately, and I am trying to get some made from billet that bolt to the side of the block similar to the HT-Racing RFS cooler. I'll report if there are any news on that.
Edit: And the flat area on the left rear side facing the rider makes a good spot for another oil bottle or similar:
Funny thing is I'm an electronic technician among other things, have a full suit of tools and excellent soldering skills, my tools happened to be out of the country at the time I was getting the Husa ready. Honestly I'm not worried, I can fix it if it breaks on the road, and 7500 miles of riding with doing it the easy half assed way to do it so far tells me it's just fine.
As for getting wet, nothing is sealed up there in any of the OEM connectors so these taps don't make any difference whatsoever when it comes to water.
It could be prettier for sure, but as long as it works, it works for me.
Thanks for the link Lukas, I'll wait and see what Dad comes up with and go from there.
I feel like we're getting closer to having more oil in the Husa's.... loving it!
Yo Baja Dad, I'm trying to work out riding the Husa down to check out the race in November, need any help with pits?....
Yo Baja Dad, I'm trying to work out riding the Husa down to check out the race in November, need any help with pits?....[/QUOTE]
shoot me a PM !!
You can never have enough help
cyborg, if you go ahead with this could you eventually post how you did it? the original guy was light on details for a noob like me and i'm sorely tempted given the number of 1000+km (600+miles) rides we do in a weekend.
for anyone interested in berg porn, some footage from recent adv rides, dirt rides and a trip to the local mx track....
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I haven't tried with the enduro wheels recently. I've had the SM wheels/tires on since buying the bike and riding home.
During the ride home, I did have to increase rear comp, and decrease front comp all the way, which helped. I also raised the forks in the clamps. I know people always say to raise the front for stability, but that has always been the oposite of my experience on dirt bikes.
The rear spring is stock and feels very good for my weight. The front spring, which I assume is stock, feels very heavy/stiff for my weight. I cannot get much more than 1/2 travel with aggressive street riding, even with comp dialed all the way out.
I'll be going in and lowering both fork/shock soon. Then I'll know what's up with spring rate and any valving changes.
You bet would. I just need the handy oil-filter cap hose fitting and would rather buy that than fab it.
Send Thomas Berglund an email. I don't think he has them listed anywhere, but he told me about them in one of our conversations, no mention of price unfortunately: email@example.com
Thanks Lukas, I'll try that.
Lets see, 465 hours and 19,600 miles on my '11 570 now. During this time I've changed oil an average of about every 40 hours. I drain the paper filter housing every time but only change the filter every 2-3 changes, yes every 120 hours or so. A couple changes were with the factory recommended Motorex 15/50. Because it was the best I could find on the road sometimes I used Motul 7100 10/40 but nearly all were Motul 300v 10/40 single ester and the last 5 changes 300v 15/50 double ester. Motul can be readily found just about anywhere in the world, from cheap scooter shops to most Ducati dealers as well as any KTM shop in south and central America. KTM shops in Europe, North America, and Chile sell Motorex but that about it.
Bike doesn't visibly burn any oil at any time and I never have had to add any between my changes. Keep in mind all motors burn oil, and that burned oil is often replaced by unburned fuel that gets past the rings. The 570 has never failed to start, and though I haven't riden another one recently to compare imo it runs as well and feels just as scary fast as when new.
Stability- I really didn't get why so many people complain about high speed stability- until last week when I removed the steering damper to have it serviced. Without the steering damper and with an agressive front tire you really need to be careful over 60 mph. I'm not going to change the steering angle because the steep stock angle has a lot to do with how easy it is to get the bike to turn at any speed and on any terrain. Fighter planes, dirt bikes, and mid engined race cars all trade a lot of stability for maneuverability. I'll just continue to crank up the steering damper when I go fast. Saves money, handles better.
Sprockets- I can't recommend Dirt Tricks Ironman sprockets more highly. Yes they sponsored us and sent me a couple spares along the way so read whatever you want but the bottom line for me is this: 19,000 miles+ with ONE 42 rear sprocket and TWO 15 tooth front sprockets. In this time I went through 5 o-ring chains and 6 sets of rally tires. I have no visible wear on the countershaft and have never greased it or even given it much thought. I also like Iron Man's reusable washer, trying to reuse the stock front sprocket washer caused the o ring behind the counter sprocket sleeve to let go. I replaced it, added the Ironman washer, and never had another issue. I also recommend a real cushion hub, this shouldn't be new to to anyone. It probably has a lot to do with riding nearly 9,000 miles on pavement without issue.
Early on I regularly had oil in the airbox as well, especially after sustained high rpm top gear days. I suspect that the oil vapor hitting the bottom of the airfilter, condensing, and dripping back to the bottom of the airbox may be transporting dirt across the air filter and into the engine. I lowered my oil level so when cold the level is 1/3 up the sight glass. 1.25 liters with filter change and no more. With this I no longer have oil pooling in the airbox.
The bike has not had an easy cruising adventure life and was only babied at times to make tires last. I rode from Belize to northern USA, 4-6 hundred miles a day between 75 and 85 mph on pavement in 10 days. Ask Lukas or any of my riding partners how I ride the bike off road. When factoring in how the bike has been used, it is the most reliable motorcycle I've owned.
If I take the bike overseas again I'll go through the motor and everything else. In the meantime there is no reason to open the motor. I'm one to look over the whole bike all day every day. But seriously we can all stop obsessing over little things and just ride any late model Husaberg. They are not fragile, high maintenance, throw away race bikes. They are race bikes you can ride around the world.
Great write up Beta..exactly what I have been waiting for from your trip. Maybe I can stop thinking about trading in my GSA for a G650X and use the 570 as I intended to when I bought it.. lightweight longer distance dirt adventure bike. I had begun to question it's reliability, but I had been following your trip on Facebook hoping I was seeing what I wanted to see.. a 570 being used as an adventure bike. I make it to Bozeman a couple times a year to fish, I'll buy you dinner next time I am in town just to hear your story,,, a steak at The Mint or Ted's.
Thank you very much for filling in the blanks and shedding some light on your extensive experience traveling on the 570.
It's great to hear your story, and just reassures me that I chose the right bike for long haul adventures.
Thanks Barton! You had an awesome trip for sure.
Great writeup and adding confirmation that these are very reliable bikes.