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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by HiTechRedneck, Nov 20, 2008.
A few very good guesses....another hint...this one may give it away...notice fixed rear sight.
I was going to guess Carcano Carbine.
Winner....now for the rest of the photos.
This is how it came home...needs just a little clean up. Very nice bore....all in all very nice little Carcano....these things are usually just beat to hell....no one cares about them, but this one is about the nicest one I have seen in a very long time....and the wood is just wonderful.
This game was kinda fun.....may try it again.
I picked my new toy yesterday. It is a Savage 170 in 30-30 caliber. I got it on one of the auction sites. To me it appears to have never been used. Here it is. Be safe, Tony
I originally posted "Carcano" but but took it back when I remembered how unusual the rounds were, so I posted a pic of the cartridges and figured someone else could still make a guess.
When you think about how long the projectile is, it's plausible that it could tumble very weirdly as proposed by the Warren commission.
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Those bullets are probably 160-170 grains. They stabilize very well, given the correct twist. Years ago, a British hunter by the name of W.D.M. Bell used a 6.5 Mannlicher to kill a great many elephants. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._D._M._Bell
So many people poo-poo the rifle from Italy but they are in fact pretty good rifles....the Italians have been making guns for 600years you would think they would have learned a thing or two.
The only real problems with the Carcano was that there were so many BETTER rifles out there during that period. It wasn't that they were THAT bad.
I think the high point of 6.5 military rifles, actually, maybe any military bolt action, would be the Swedish Mausers.
The Swedes took great care of them, and they're very accurate. When they first started importing them I picked up a beautiful carbine for $79.
Another "why the hell did I sell that?".
Sorry to mention this but Lee Harvey Oswald thought that a Carcano would do the job...
I think I would depend on how you define better. I don't think the rifles are any better in terms of quality. I have been lucky enough to own every main bolt battle rifle of WWII and assuming the rifles are in like shape they are all about the same. Out of all the bolt battle rifles of WWII I like the French MAS 36 the best....seems to be the best made of all of them....but you would think it would be...being the last one designed, the French could look at all the other designs and take the best from all and put them in one. I also like my Type 99 another rifle that is written off as junk....or not as good as the others, as strong or whatever.
The other problem is getting the right sized bullet...so many shooting 265 out of a hole that is 268 and then griping about the rifle not being able to hit anything...well duh.
In terms of functionality and durability, the best and only design still being made is the 98 Mauser. With it's non-rotating large extractor, the round is under complete control at all times. It's easy to completely field strip for cleaning, and can be disassembled without any tools. The Swedes stuck with the previous 96 version, which was much the same, but cocked on closing and didn't have the gas shield on the bolt sleeve.
The question of the day is...how do you develop a load for a handgun that loves everything?
Nearly every load I tried this afternoon grouped like this...
What model is that? It looks like you're shooting a .45ACP with 200gr SWC. True?
The gun looks somewhat modern, but not exactly like a 625. And it's not of an old enough vintage like a 1917. I love blued revolvers. The only 625's that I've seen are stainless.
It's a Model 25 in .45 ACP. I bought it in the 1980s. It digests nearly everything just like that load above. That particular load used (you are correct) 200 gr SWC bullets. It grouped just as well with 155 SWC bullets (although they grouped about 3 inches lower) and 230 RN bullets (they grouped just a bit higher than the 200 gr SWC bullets). Like I said, it likes everything. All of the bullets are cast lead...I hardly ever shoot jacketed bullets (except for my rifles).
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