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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by HiTechRedneck, Nov 20, 2008.
Those certainly are nice gats. Best size, power and weight.
Send that model 66 to south Florida and you'll get * 400.00+ for it.
I know they are cheap at $350-$400 and many believe them to be better than a standard AK-47 in terms of quality once the bugs have been worked out, mainly the burrs on the receiver.
You revolver folks are making me really itchy for that GP100 I've been pining after...
I did exactly that- I bought one from a guy for $300 because he couldn't get it to run. I took it apart and cleaned the piston and gas cylinder out with brake cleaner to remove the cosmoline. Then a few minutes with a dremel and some files and I got it running with good mags- the feed ramp needed polishing to make HP ammo feed and the extractor needed fitting. A little more work and I got it realigned. Finally (and this is important) I took all the mags apart and got them running- the followers are not all shaped correctly, so they hang on the mag body. Now it was running like a champ, so I took the wooden furniture off and reshaped it a bit with a collection of sanders and sandpaper- finishing it off with some linseed oil. It still wasn't pretty, but a couple of hours of work gave me an AK that felt good, looked okay and ran like a champ.
Of course, after a few months I realized why I never keep AK's (they are not very accurate and the controls are silly) so I sold it for $450.
I always hear this, just how inaccurate is an AK? I guess the only think I could really compare it to right now would be my 10/22
I doubt that there are many AKs out there that'll shoot 3MOA. I'd suspect that 5MOA might be more the norm. Or "Minute of Barn Door".
Now I'm going to sit back and wait for someone to chime in and claim that his AK will shoot 1.5MOA all day long......
Savage 10FLP .308Win, 24" barrel
Badger 20MOA base
Sharp Shooter Supply trigger & bolt handle
US Optics 3.2-17x44mm, MPR reticle, 35mm tube, EREK elevation with MIL click values
Tactical Intervention M24 sling
Eagle cheek pack
Don't hold your breath, please.
Okay, so let's say that AKs shoot about 5MOA. Does that make a difference if you never put a scope on it?
Nope, they will run about no matter what shit you put through them, and spray bullets downrange. That is their purpose, and they do it well.
Cue for Model 27 pron.
They don't make 'em like that anymore.
Plenty accurate for their intended purpose... Tack driver, no. Put a bunch of rounds in a general area @ 100 yards in a hurry? You betcha, and that is their intended purpose.
Sums up the ones I owned/have shot-
Way back when, just before Billary took office, one of the local shops sold russian made SKS' (new in boxes, made in the 50's) for about $150. Would/could throw lead inside a 6-8 inch group at 100 yrds (open sights, bench rest) pretty much all day. the AK's I've fired were very similar in feel/fit...kicks hard, crummy stock, but always worked.
Got kinda boring before too long. Sold it for $300 a couple years later, bought the CZ 85 9mm (very good trade)
I have had pretty good luck with the Norinco SKS's and accuracy. I used to shoot one with the local guys here in DCM matches. SKS versus M1's. I would not be in last place at the end of the day. These guys would have dialed in their rifles, aftermarket rifle farkles, super-tweaked handloaded ammoes, and they would take it very seriously. I would show up with one of the long barreled SKS rifles and some rounds from a gray box that I would buy by the case, the cheapest ammo I could find, and do fairly well. I never was high score, but the littkle SKS would do pretty well.
I think the SKS can actually be an accurate rifle, whereas the AK47? Nope.
The ones made by Norinco that I've shot were so innacurate as to defy belief. Consistently hitting a 10" diameter paper plate at 50 meters was about all we could manage. It's not just the horrible trigger that I disliked, but the fact that it had the curious habit of rotating the muzzle up and to the right with every shot, almost as if someone were pushing the barrel from the side. It's even less accurate, IMO, than the Chinese made SKS I had years ago, and I never thought I'd say that about any rifle.
My old Mosin let me down this year with a shot that looked to be about 300 yards and this after going into dies, brass, two different bullet types, multiple trips to the range, careful record keeping of loads...
I couldn't pull loads together that would do any better then the best mil surplus I found. The rifle never shot any better then about a 1.5 to 2 MOA.
So after all this work I ended up using my foreman's Savage 270 to make a 100 yard shot that took my buck this year.
I have fallen in love with another rifle that will be mine before this next hunting season. It's the Stainless Tikka T3 Lite chambered in .308 Winchester. It's guaranteed to do 3 rounds MOA straight out of the box with over the counter rounds.
These claims seem strange being the gun comes out of the box without iron sights or scope but all I have read are good thing about this rifle.
Okay other then they had some misfortune early on with the stainless barrels but from I have gathered that was one lot of bad metal.
don't give up comrad
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Oh my, that is just sweeeeet!