The KTM 500 XC-W Thread.

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Geek, Mar 16, 2012.

  1. Tarheel Wheeler

    Tarheel Wheeler Around

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    Just trying to give fellows inmates a chance at a great bike. I definitely do not consider a low hour plated 12 450 XC-W to be spam...more like prime rib :deal
  2. Danger4u2

    Danger4u2 KX500 is Danger4u2

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    You must not know of the spam I'm talking about.
    Spam is inappropriate/unwanted advertisement. There is a place to sell your bike, this isn't it. There's a saying on the net,
    spammers suck.
  3. Tarheel Wheeler

    Tarheel Wheeler Around

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    Well thanks for educating me. :spam

    Again...no melicious intent, and thanks for the help with the sale. :lol3
  4. coloktmGS

    coloktmGS Been here awhile

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  5. GAS GUY

    GAS GUY MILE EATER

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    I have my friends 2013 500 xcw in my garage while I put springs on it for his weight and I noticed a couple small areas that could be potential future problems so I thought I would post them so you guys can check your bikes.
    This is the first one.
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    I don't know if it came from the factory like this or if the dealer did this when installing the brake light switch for the street legal kit, but the rear brake line is right up against the engine and a sharp piece of casting flash.
    And when the swingarm is moving up and down it could eventually saw through the line.
    The line seems a bit too long for the application which adds to the problem.
    I put a piece of fuel line over the area and a sticky foam pad on the engine.

    I considered loosening the banjo bolt and rotating the line but it is already a somewhat tight bend on the line and did not want to increase the bend.
  6. GAS GUY

    GAS GUY MILE EATER

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    This is the other area.
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    Where this harness runs loosely up along the tensioner you can see it pushing against and potentially rubbing through the harness, and the plastic clip is below the tensioner.
  7. GAS GUY

    GAS GUY MILE EATER

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    Here you can see I slid the hard plastic clip up so it is between the harness and tensioner and then used a small zip tie to secure it.
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  8. SteveO

    SteveO ouch....

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    aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhHHHHHHHH

    I'm so jealous!

    I'm sitting here on the couch, barely able to see through swollen eyes, and barely able to breath through a swollen nose. Allergies S-U-C-K!!!!
  9. Turbo

    Turbo used to be XC700116

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    Picked up my new 13 500 XC-W on Saturday :clap

    But I have a couple questions

    1. Does anyone know the "split" on the stator output if there is one? (it's 200W total but how much is dedicated to DC vs AC)

    2. Can the stator have a floated ground mod done like previous generations? (assuming it's not all DC already)

    3. Has anyone managed to get their hands on a service manual yet? or at least the electrical prints?

    I fully intend on buying the manual on CD/DVD as soon as I can but cannot find any info on it's availability.

    My plans are to put a Trail tech X2 HID (70Watts DC) on it as well as a power tap for my GPS and I don't want to screw around and chase problems later

    ie: do it right the first time.

    That doesn't however mean that I'm all that wild about just dropping the cash for a trail tech stator if it can be modded like the old ones or if it's not needed.


    I managed to do all this myself on my RFS bike previous to this one, re-wrapped the stator myself, did all the wiring, etc. I have a LOT of electrical experience but I'd like to get some info or preferably the prints for it before I dive in so I can plan out everything before hand.
  10. The Wolf

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    Has anybody had an issue with flame out? My 13' seems to flame out regularly.
  11. theantipaul

    theantipaul Reforming Neandertal

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    Hey Turbo,

    It's a full DC system and uses only about 60watts for FI, ECU etc, so there's more then enough for 70watts of lights and 1w GPS. There are schematics in the repair manual, but they're not very good and I'm not even sure they're complete. We can try and help if you have a specific question, but I ran into the same thing when I first got my bike, no overall schematic like the 530/525's in the manual.

    Thing is with this bike already pumping out 200watts DC you can wire in anything you'd like right from the battery.

    There are a few things that are different, one is the Reg/Rect has a circuit that powers up the FI, ECU and lights and accessories through two different relays that stay on for a bit after the motor is killed, nice that it kills power to those without manually switching them off.
  12. Turbo

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    Awesome!!, Thanks for the info, that is great news, I really didn't want to do a stator rewind again, I think it took about 2 weeks for all the little cuts to heal up last time. :lol3

    Just knowing that alone should help me parse out what I need, Hopefully KTM will hop to and get a complete schematic in the manual and release it soon. I always like to have it just for reference in case I'm looking at doing something else at some point.

    I'll probably end up hooking it all up on the switched side of the relay I'll have to look at the power rating on them to make sure they can handle it and add a relay if necessary.
  13. RSinBC

    RSinBC Been here awhile

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    Is it an XC-W or EXC. The EXC'S are prone to flame outs, mine included, but the XC-W's seem to be fine.
  14. The Wolf

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    its an xcw. usually happens when the clutch is pulled in or in neutral
  15. unaweep

    unaweep Uses lotsa band-aids

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    Have you tried the JD tuner?

    http://www.jdjetting.com/xcart/product.php?productid=156&cat=23&page=1

    I haven't ridden mine (EXC) too much with this on, (about 15 hours over 6 months) but so far I like what I'm seeing. I think I see a difference- but I just haven't ridden it enough to say so with confidence. :dunno

    Flame out was a problem. It is better.:deal
  16. RSinBC

    RSinBC Been here awhile

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    For the EXC's some have luck with the JD, mine still dies! I am going to have the XC-W un-restricted map installed on Wednesday, but I have a feeling the TPS may be partly to blame. I am going to find put where it is set at, hopefully it is out, a smoking gun is nice to find when chasing these types of problems.

    You might want to check your TPS setting to see where it's at. KTM calls for 0.601v closed. Some are having good luck with 0.640v closed. Also engine should be at operating temp.

    Good luck

    Richard
  17. The Wolf

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    here some good info for the tps:

    http://www.ktmforums.com/forums/off...tment-richen-mixture-eliminate-flame-out.html
  18. RSinBC

    RSinBC Been here awhile

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    Good info on adjusting the TPS. I want the bike hooked up to the Dealers computer so i can be sure of the final setting. I will most likely set it to 0.64 and see how it runs.
  19. team ftb

    team ftb Befuddled Adventurer

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    Try raising the idle to the point its idling higher than the usual carbed bike idle. Worked for me.
  20. Turbo

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    This is one I saw with the carbed bikes alot, seems a lot of people think the idle should sound like the bike is barely running. Should be at 1800 RPM on the old RFS's and it made a world of difference. New 500 XC-W specs 1800-1900. Until you get used to the sound of it at that idle it sounds kinda fast. I haven't dug into the new one but on the RFS motors with the auto de-comp it was especially important as the Auto Decomp was working at below 1500 ish. So not only was your motor consuming less air/fuel, it also was partially opening a valve on the compression stroke.

    That's one of the first things I did with mine is to check it and it was at about 1200 and would stall easily just starting out on pavement. Up to 1800 and not so much.