The last Chief? What's happening at Indian?

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by chiefrider, Dec 11, 2012.

  1. JerryH

    JerryH Long timer

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    I average about 2 a year. Times 35 years, that is around 70 flat tires since age 18. It's gotten worse lately. I have 3 plugs in the rear tire on my VN750, and it's only halfway worn out. That's 3 flats in one tire in 10,000 miles. For some reason, 9 out of 10 flats seem to be the rear tire. That's why I have considered a Sportster with a cast rear wheel and spoke front wheel.
  2. waveydavey

    waveydavey happy times!!

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    Sounds like someone is sabotaging you. I have not had a flat tire on any of my bikes for at least 15 years. That's about 220,000 kms according to my records. I understand your fear, 2 flats a year and the frequency is increasing, your cursed.
  3. baloneyskin daddy

    baloneyskin daddy bikaholic

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    Are the cops laying spike strips out front of your house.:rofl
  4. Super Sneaky Steve

    Super Sneaky Steve B@nned Club :D

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    I was thinking ex-girlfriend walks by once in a while and jabs it with a nail.
  5. kraven

    kraven Hegelian Scum

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    Bolt comes with cast wheels. :) :lol3
  6. chiefrider

    chiefrider Chrome won't get you home

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    It's been 45 years since anyone tied to revitalize Indian with a proper looking motor. This flathead 45" prototype factory cafe racer emerged at the same time the Honda 750 four was introduced. It may look speedy, but unlikely made much more than 25-30 horsepower.

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    Tom in Salem
  7. kraven

    kraven Hegelian Scum

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    That's pretty sharp, Tom. Never seen that one before. :clap

    I really hope Indian or Victory do a smaller cafe sized bike.
  8. zDollar Bill

    zDollar Bill Eat, Sleep, Ride, Repeat

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    I hope they shock us with a sport touring or utility bike.
  9. Stromin'Nroman

    Stromin'Nroman Been here awhile

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    In the Thunderstroke Elevety-One video, they mentioned Multi-Directional Fins.

    This technological advancement is absolutely the most compellingly innovative feature of Thunderstroke Eleventy-One.

    Wow!

    These are truly exciting we are living in.

    I wonder if Multi-Directional Fin technology was borrowed from the Polaris Personal Watercraft product line?

    Watch your back Briggs and Stratton, Indian is back in the game!
  10. Super Sneaky Steve

    Super Sneaky Steve B@nned Club :D

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    That would be smart. Young people don't go out and by $20k boats.

    I'd like to have more options than just the Truxton and V7 Guzzi.
  11. chiefrider

    chiefrider Chrome won't get you home

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    Uh, the multidirectional head fins from the last Springfield Chiefs are mirrored in the valve covers of the new motor.

    They are attempting to give the new motor a similiar appearance of the old motor. The heavy cruiser/touring market demands specific aesthetic standards to attract customers, and perhaps, if the new motor raises the bar in performance and durability, the new Indian will be successful.

    As far a the technical aspects of this motor, it seems they have a motor that fits the mission, and maybe is significantly more durable than what the engine architecture of a Harley allows.

    As a fan of the Springfield bikes, I think this is a worthwhile attempt to breathe life into the old name. I am also hopeful they have a Scout and a Four in development, as well.

    What do you have against Briggs & Stratton anyway? :ear

    Tom in Salem
  12. kraven

    kraven Hegelian Scum

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  13. Stromin'Nroman

    Stromin'Nroman Been here awhile

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    So it is a heretofore underutilized technical advancemancement?
    Polaris would have you believe it's an engineering breakthrough.

    Look at that:

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    They have the soon-to-be-obsolete mono-directional fins.

    I can't have a mower looking like that, it doesn't look enough like a mower that might have existed in a vague time for which my forbears may have become nostalgic.
  14. ADK

    ADK dain bramaged

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    Well, you're not. :1drink
  15. chiefrider

    chiefrider Chrome won't get you home

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    What can I say...I love flatheads.

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    Me & my 1953 Roadmaster 80.
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    But I'm a 6v fellow in a 12v world.

    Tom in Salem
  16. kraven

    kraven Hegelian Scum

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    That's a cool pic, Tom. I love your bike.

    I used to drive a 54' Ford that was 6v. It's not for everybody, is it?
  17. JerryH

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    Who built that? Indian kicked the bucket in 1953. They did not exist when the Honda CB750 came out. Is it a real Indian engine?


    Just what is (I mean was) wrong with Briggs&Stratton? Their side valve motors were completely bulletproof. And they didn't even have a real oiling system. I took them apart and put them back together when I was 5 years old, and they still ran.

    6V is not so bad. I had a 6V VW bug. Headlights were a little dim, everything else worked. Except the heater. No heater ever worked in any air cooled VW
  18. Anorak

    Anorak Woolf Barnato

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    Floyd Clymer and Friedel Münch.
  19. JerryH

    JerryH Long timer

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    Oh yes, Floyd Clymer. He put the Indian name on anything and everything. I remember Friedel Munch now, from the Munch Mammut. It had an NSU car engine in it. Jay Leno has one.
  20. chiefrider

    chiefrider Chrome won't get you home

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    Floyd Clymer's 1968 SCOUT prototype


    In collaboration with Friedel Munch, Clymer hoped this German made combination of state of the art chassis and 1940's Scout engine would be a sales success.

    This was never to come to fruition.


    Rumour has it that some of the "magnesium castings" were actually wooden mock-ups so it is unlikely that this machine actually ran.

    Only one prototype was made and it still exists and was recently (late 2009) sold.

    http://indianmcc.com/scout.html

    Tom in Salem