The Lifan engine thread

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by hugemoth, Feb 22, 2011.

  1. hugemoth

    hugemoth Long timer

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    Missed that post.

    Yes, it will fit as well as any of the horizontal Lifan engines. That's not to say it's an easy change for someone without the proper tools or mechanical aptitude.

    The engine in the eBay ad has minimal electrical output that will not power lights and charge battery for street use. For use on a street legal bike you will need to install a higher capacity stator and flywheel as well as a rectifier/regulator. Figure an additional $100 - $150.

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  2. bama jama

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    My CT200 with a lifan 140.
    Oil cooler is connected wrong!


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  3. hugemoth

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    Clean looking old machine! You're going to need ear plugs.


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  4. bama jama

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    Thanks hugemoth.I have a baffle in it,not too bad.I rode Harleys so it is quiet compared to some of them.
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  7. 4doora

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    Does anyone know where I can get a lock washer that will fit the nut that holds the centrifugal oil slinger on my 140 lifan? My motor never had one, and the nut's come loose twice now. The first time it happened I even used red loctite, and it still managed to back off.
    I'm sure I could source an oem honda one, but I'm not sure which models had the same size nut... I know there were at least 2 different sizes.

    On another note, after I tightened everything back together the other day, I took my ct200 for it's first off road excursion. I thought I may have killed her when I found myself stalled in a mud puddle over a foot deep (just up to the carb, mind you). After sloshing through it back to dry dirt, she started back up first kick! I love this bike.

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  8. deezildennis

    deezildennis Its a what?

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    I have put Beveled washers on these. I got them from Tbolt usa. I Just called and told him the Size of shaft I wanted it to slip over and he sent me 2.

    They worked fine but next time I will Peen them in 4 spots on the outer face near the threads once it's on and tourqed like I have done in the past. That keeps them on just fine even in the High revving pit bike engines.
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  9. papawhellie

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    Spent a little time searching the net and wondering if anyone has experience putting a vertical Chinese engine in a 1985 XL125s. These were Brazilian made 2 valve Honda's. Picked one up for a 100 bucks with a silver dollar size hole in the piston from the intake valve. Thought the clone engine would be the cheapest route to a cool bike with e start and power. I will try and get a photo up.
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  10. 2speed

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    Anyone know what the base jet sizes should be for a 110cc clone motor and a PZ19 carb?
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    I think the main jet should be a 75. Not sure about the pilot jet.
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    Thanks....I'll start there.
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  14. hugemoth

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    Somewhere over 50,000 miles on the 200 now and I have been noticing a slight rattle coming from the clutch side of the engine. Pulled the cover and found the clutch basket is a bit loose on the transmission input shaft splines. The clutch basket splines are aluminum and the transmission shaft is hardened steel. Ordered a complete clutch assembly new for $39. Also found the oil pump chain is stretched (actually worn at the pins) so I'll replace it along with the sprockets for a total of $20. Neither of these things would actually break soon but I like a quiet engine.
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  15. WECSOG

    WECSOG Been here awhile

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    Hugemoth, how available are parts for the 200 and where do you get them? I'm considering the purchase of a Lifan 200 (163FML) to put in a Honda XL250 frame I have. Hopefully it is the pushrod motor, although the listing doesn't say.
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  16. hugemoth

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    These are the first engine parts I've needed, ordered from Ebay. Parts for the horizontal Lifan engines are plentiful but less so for the vertical engines.

    The 163FML is a pushrod engine without the balance shaft.

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  17. WECSOG

    WECSOG Been here awhile

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    Thanks! Yeah, that's what I'm seeing as well: lots of shops that carry parts for the horizontal but not for the vertical engines.
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  18. hugemoth

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    New clutch and oil pump chain are in and the 200 is running as quiet as ever. I found that searching for CG200 often brings up more parts listings than Lifan 200 but be careful, many Chinese companies make versions of the CG200 that may be slightly different.
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  19. pnw

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    Any advice on specific stator to buy so it will charge battery and run lights (CT90 application)? I see lots of them for sale on Amazon and Ebay but I don't want to buy the wrong one, the ads I read don't really specify increased output vs stock. Is a heavier flywheel needed also?

    If/when the price comes down on the new lifan 150cc horizontal engines I might buy one, it appears different than the 150 that you mentioned in this thread hugemoth. Larger oil capacity of 1.1L.

    Thanks
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  20. hugemoth

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    Pretty sure all the stators are interchangeable. The 6 pole unit has the highest capacity. This is what the look like. I believe they are about 100 watts. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magneto-Stator-6-Pole-Lifan-140CC-Dirt-Pit-Bike-Taotao-Apollo-Xmotos-Parts-/271581067645?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f3b7e397d&vxp=mtr
    I also believe the stock flywheel will work with the 6 pole unit but check to be sure. This is the one that comes standard with the 140cc. Flywheel weight doesn't matter.

    I'm using the Lifan 140 on my little bike. The 150 design is quite a bit different.



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