The "LONG TERM" WaspWorks Super Tenere, in detail and the evolution - Part 2

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Wasp, Apr 4, 2012.

  1. tpak

    tpak Been here awhile

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    Not to derail but ... oh my ... was kicking back and forth between that German beast and an S10 - reading a bunch of threads here I was still up in the air but these threads have pushed me over the edge! This is gonna be fun!
  2. Thagua

    Thagua Let's go adventuring...

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    Cheers,
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  3. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    ola roberto ,,,i'm in Saigon,,,relaxing in my hotel room,,,that actually has a wi-fi signal that works,,,

    out of curiosity i checked this thread since i havwn't heard from alot of people in recent time,,

    SALUD!!!!:freaky
    you got the wheel finally,,and see that you actually have it on your bike !!!!

    keep us posted with a ride report. whether the recommendations wasp- man and i have come up with work like we said...i need your feedback so i can make betterdecisions for emy future customers,,,

    OBTW,,did you get your T-shirts and hat?? ,,just curious

    OK,,regarding the fork spring winding and location,,,it is real simple,,weight and un-sprung weight to be more specific....you always want the least amount of weight for your suspension to work better,,so lighter wheels,,tubeless are an example AND in a progressively wound spring one end is heavier than the other,,,in this case the tightly wound soft part of the spring,, thats
    's why it's on top so the lighter end is on the moving part of the shock,,,:deal

    vayas con dios amigo
    :freaky
    senor woody
  4. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    been on the road all over europe with family n friends,,have been in Saigon the last few weeks just chillin in this insanely wacky monsoon ideluged place that feels like i'm. living in a steam bath on top of the biggest moped ant pile in the world:rofl
    well it looks like ya found Zach my ace cohort in building what i design/come up with for you guys

    i'm counting on all you guys to provide feedback,,,personally from all the test riding in every configuration,,, the 21" IMHO is a must have off-road,,,and the rear can be fine tuned to

    1,,std oem 4.25x17 =for all around work biased for street

    2,,3.5x17 = more off road riding

    3,,2,5x18 = serious dirt riding/racing

    4,,3.5x18 = all around riding biased toward dirt

    the front is fairly simple

    1,,std oem 2.5x19 = best all around work biased for street

    2,,1.6x21 = best off road biased for hard riding/ competition

    3,,1.85x21 = best all arounnd biased for off road

    there ya have it:wink:

    so Wasp-man and i have have a ton of R&D time invested in making our hunch that this bike would benefit greatly from the afore mentioned conversions,,,i heard your hesitation about not wanting to give up your TCS,,,ifell in love with it myself,,,well figured it out and YES it still works just fine,,so no excuses

    go ride the snot out of your Superlaced wheels and let us know the results

    thanks to all you trusty souls
    :freaky
    woody
  5. Thagua

    Thagua Let's go adventuring...

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    Hi Woody ... glad you are enjoying summer ... me suffering winter but enjoying Atacama desert dirt roads with your tyres ...
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    Just made a measurement of your rims ... front is 2.5" and is wearing a Heidenau 90-90-21, the rear is 3.25" and is wearing a Metzeler Enduro 3 140-80-18 which is just fine for all around trips ... what do you think of a Heidenau 150-70-18? ... clearances on the front and side are 5mm with the Metzeler 140-80 ... the 3.5" could be the appropiate? ... also the tube or tubeless is not important although when installing a tube tyre you have to remove the valve but can revert to tubeless.
    NO shirt or stickers and NO request for dues ... need a Paypal request please before I waste my credit on other farkles ... lol
    Cheers and keep yourself resting from hard work.
    Roberto
  6. Wasp

    Wasp Supa10 pilot

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    Wow... I just realized how long it's been since I visited the forums.
    I havent ridden my bike for over a month now as I have been messing around with brake lines to get the layout just right.
    I have also been flat out with development work on some really exciting (paying:D) jobs so the days have just sort of blended into weeks.

    Good to see your pics and hear you are having a ball with your bike and the wheel conversion Thagua. Keep it up mate. It's great to see the photos of brothers out riding in their own countries.

    I have managed to keep in touch with Woody as he orbits the globe, so I wasnt surprised to see his posts here.
    On that subject - Skype me tomorrow Woody. We're due for a bullshit session again.

    As I said, I've been busy working on the layout of the brake lines and after one failed attempt, with a less than professional supplier, I finally have a production set in my greasy mits. I should have the billet distribution block that I designed to go with the whole setup in the next couple of days so I can finally fill-er-up with fluid and push a few bubbles out before getting back on the road.

    I am not sure if I can remember how to ride it's been so long..:cry

    Greg.

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    Shows the distribution block (where the three banjo's meet) that I made temporarily out of steel. This is the one I am waiting on from my machinist.
    It also shows the bulkhead fitting bracket welded on where this and the horn relocation bracket will be laser-cut and pressed "bolt-on" components before too long:
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    Prior to being crimped and tested. = Full A.D.R approved..:freaky
    Hoses are pinned at the guard by "P"clamps and angled out from the calipers, so no tyre snag's here:clap
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  7. Thagua

    Thagua Let's go adventuring...

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    Excellent work as usual Greg ... When are having a production run and prices for the whole set:
    High fender support
    Brake lines with distribution block and hardware
    Horn relocation bracket
    My 2 cents: Put some cover on the hoses and use the OEM left support for the hose on the caliper and make a mirror of the same for the right hand.
    Cheers,
    Roberto
  8. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    roberto,,,
    for your and others edification,,,rim widths are measured on the inside bead to bead NOT overall on outside,, like you must've done to comme up with numbers like that,,,,,when in doubt ya can also see it stamped somewhere. in the outside of the rim
    :freaky
    woody

    PS,,gotta get my clowns in shipping up to speed,,uncondcionable:wink:
  9. Georgios

    Georgios Been here awhile

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    Hi Greg,

    you have created a very nice looking bike .
    What is the overall weight now, with full tank? Seems that it lost at least 20 kg.

    Best regards
    Georgios
  10. Thagua

    Thagua Let's go adventuring...

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    You are quite right Woody. My front is 1.85 and rear is 2.5. Which is the maximum tyre you can fit on the rear? ... 150/70 or 140/80?
    Cheers,
    Roberto
  11. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    go to my website,,it has tire /rimchart for optimum combinations

    roberto et al,,remember the larger the tire ,ya have to keep three things in mind,,

    1,, you may have interference problems

    2,, you will be raising ride height sometimes

    3,, you will affect the gearing

    hence,,pay attention,,and chec actual dian
    meters and widths of the tires ya look at ,,THEY ALL VARY,,,sometimes considerably

    :freaky
    woody
  12. Wasp

    Wasp Supa10 pilot

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    Yeeee,,,har!!

    I'm guessing it might be around six weeks since I have ridden my bike and I finally got the new brake lines and 3 way billet block fitted.

    I bled the brakes up tonight with the help on my son and I get a chance to test the 21"/18" combo with fresh Heidenau's.
    I can do a bit of a report and some pics over in vendors on Woodies Super Tenere wheel thread tomorrow evening.

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    Really pleased with the way these have turned out and the super tidy look when fitted.

    Greg.
  13. Thagua

    Thagua Let's go adventuring...

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    Great setup Greg ... as allways, very professional ... when are you running production on this both products to sell them through any commercial channels?
    Cheers,
    Roberto

    PS.- Making the final adjustments to my ROC Stompa steering dampener ...
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  14. CANNONMAN

    CANNONMAN Adventurer

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    Ok, Send me a set of everything on your bench asap!!
  15. Thagua

    Thagua Let's go adventuring...

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    Finally installed the stem to control the ROC Stompa steering dampener I had from my previous Yamaha XTZ750 Super Tenere's and Yamaha XT600 Tenere ... it was a difficult but rewarding process ... not as tidy as Greg's works but it works ... lol
    Cheers,
    Roberto
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  16. Stoic96

    Stoic96 Adventurer

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    Want to buy: Waspworks front fender bracket and brakeline kit.
  17. Thagua

    Thagua Let's go adventuring...

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    +1 plus a Galfer rear brake line kit.
    Cheers,
    Thagua
  18. Wasp

    Wasp Supa10 pilot

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    Sorry guys. I have been flat out lately and havent even had time to attend to these pages.
    I have had a number of requests for a kit of this product and I will do it in the near future. I have some billet machined brake joiner "T" blocks and also have a batch of laser cut plates for both the guard mount and fork leg protectors.
    I will post again as soon as I get a chance to put it all together.

    Greg.
  19. Stoic96

    Stoic96 Adventurer

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    Greg,

    Awesome, great to hear. I look forward to an update.
  20. wolftrax

    wolftrax Been here awhile

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    Wasp I'm in for one of your front fender kits