The lost, the bumbling, obviously I'm Norwegian.

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  1. Toten

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    The word Skræling in Norwegian is still somewhat in use, mostly as "skral", which is translated to skinny.
    The vikings called both the inuits and the indians Skraelings.

    Leiv Eriksson didnt have any daughters, but he had a half-sister.
    That woman was a bitch, atleast the little I've found out about her:
    She mounted an expedition with two groups, one from Iceland and one with her, half-half agreements on loot and resources, max 35 men.
    Obviously she brought more, didnt let the other group store the loot in the building she had arranged, and after making peace with them, lied to her husband that they'd "had their way" with her, and that he was too little of a man to defend her honor.
    Obviously telling that to a viking is like pouring high octane gasoline on a fire, so he went over and killed the men, but not the women, that wasnt his style.
    "Hand me an axe" she said, and she killed the five women...

    Yup, that makes her a qualified bitch in my book..
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  2. High Country Herb

    High Country Herb Adventure Connoiseur

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    Isn't the politically correct term "shield maiden"? :lol3

    "When Leif Erikson's pregnant half-sister Freydís Eiríksdóttir was in Vinland, she is reported to have taken up a sword, and, bare-breasted, scared away the attacking Skrælings." -Wiki
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  3. kantuckid

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    I may take that Leif holiday idea back?:rofl got enough questionable holiday people already?:-)

    A couple of modern day Norwegians have told me they travel cause they cannot afford to stay home? not so much to loot & pillage?:scratch
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  4. Sjoerd Bakker

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    Thanks for that info , Toten ,it confirms my original suspicion. I always think it interesting and fun to dig up such roots , shows that there is a strong link of linguistic DNA connecting these languages ,even to a period before each might have developed as a different tongue .
    The standardized official Dutch dictionary will show " schraal " defined as lean, skinny, of little consequence and this word is used regularly every day . Clearly we are talking about the same word in two languages
    My spelling , skroal ( sounded diferently but recognizable and understandable in both idioms ) ,reflects the regional variant of Dutch into which I was born , a subset of regional Germanic which ,now titled under Nedersaksisch ( subset: Stellingwerfs ) , flows from NE Nederland across northern Germany into Denmark. In the distant past before national borders evolved the people could move about and still communicate fairly easily. After nation-states were established and an "official" language was adopted that fluidity slowly disappeared as schooling enforced the particular version up to the artificial boundary lines.The regionals are still spoken by locals who may have an interest ,although with the movement of people within any country such is becoming more difficult . The city folk retreating for retirement or recreation to the countryside plead ignorance and force everyone to switch into the " standard'"lingo and the kids all want to appear like city folk and start speaking that way all the time . A prime example of this is the Anglo- Spanish situation inthe USA border area - Spanish was the dominant European language of the first non-native settlers but the Anglos moved in and made life hard for Spanish speakers with schools trying to swing everybody over to English for a time .
    Ability to speak the regionals is not a sign of ignorance, illiteracy or backwardness , as was sometimes suggested by social climbers.
    Added to that , my locale was also within the range of the Frisian , an old language which shared with and gave much to the English and Friesland was also visited by Vikings so such connections and possible derivations are understandable .
    In Nicaragua there is even a monument someplace to what they claim was a visit by Vikings . I would not totally discount that , they were real serious travelers.More research is required, as they always conclude any scientific report
    . DSC06693.JPG Picture is of interior of one of the replica Viking communal houses at L'Anse Aux meadows, Newfoundland
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    TUCKERS the famous james

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    You need both paper map and GPS.
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  6. kantuckid

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    I was addicted to nicotine for 25 years, 1965 to 1989, FWIW.
    I "dipped" both-Copenhagen & Key snuff, not "Skoal", the wintergreen version.
    The brandname/word Skoal is seemingly so close a term and given the other brandname Copenhagen, it causes me to ask if there's a connection to the above mentioned term?
    For those who don't know, all those "dipping snuff's" are made from USA grown, dark fired tobacco's. Hung in a barn to cure and a fire is burned with the barn closed up.
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  7. Sjoerd Bakker

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    Smoked tobacco it's called
    Is it sort of like" crystal - nic'. "
    for the nicotine - heads ? :bubba
    I live in the tobacco belt of Canada, the " Virginia leaf " type curing method .
    There are some smoke barns south of here towards Blenheim area.

    Isn't" skol " used as a Scandinavian equivalent to the English " bottoms up " or " cheers"

    The Danish connection might be that the stuff was commercialized by. a Danish tobacco importer / merchant .
    and the American chaw makers are cashing in on the supposed sophistication of sticking a wad of toxic leaves in the cheak and drooling crap out of the corners of the mouth .
    :lol3

    Tobacco will just be a novelty garden plant up there in Denmark no commercial growers .
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    Maybe no backer (ky word :lol2) but Netherlands they are #2 in the world in tomatoes and that's doing something considering the postage stamp space it's being done in!
    Snuff dippers don't drool "amber, nother KY word:lol2) as do leaf chewers...:-)
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  9. Toten

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    #RAILROAD
    :D

    Planning moves forward!
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