the lowly bsa victor

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by Abdelhub, Feb 25, 2012.

  1. ttpete

    ttpete Rectum Non Bustibus

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    The B44 and B50 are basically built on modified B25 crankcases, which are too small to accommodate a large enough flywheel. That's one reason that they can be difficult to start. Another weak point is the starter gear and ratchet on the end of the mainshaft. I've owned a few of these, and the only one I really enjoyed was a B50 that had extensive head work done to install big valves and a 40 mm Mikuni carb. With the Sifton cam and valve train, it ran very well. It also had a Carillo con rod for reliability.

    Then I bought an XL600R and sold the BSAs.
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  2. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    This is Jerry's B-50 race bike. He had a nickle plated Suzuki tank on it and used a piece of plastic cutting board for a seat.
    Pic from the late 80's , early 90's. Jerry , what's up ?
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  3. darmst6829

    darmst6829 Been here awhile

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  4. johnny moped

    johnny moped learner

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    yes the BSA Victor's were so bad they only won the motocross world championship 2 years in a row.


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  5. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    I have started by hand, then again I have had it throw my foot higher than I can ever do on my own. As well as damage a couple fingers that were on the throttle, or kick my heel back into the passeger peg removing skin to the bone. Once completely blew the seam full length on the original type muffler.

    These things happen when something isn't right. Can't tell ya how many times it's fired and run while positioning the motor for a kick.
    These things happen when things are right...it's easy to kick then.

    ....the guy outside the gas station..."what is that a 125 or a 250?"
    Me, "no it's a 500".
    the guy, "You sure kick it over easy for being a 500".

    It's knowing how to kick it through the exhaust stroke and on around to the compression stroke...
    Not trying to kick it through the compression stoke. This is why yamaha had the idiot window on the TT's and why there's auto decompressor on most big bores....for the people who have not had the trials and tribulations of owning a B50 long term.

    Ya got a 600? well ya, duh,:deal didn't we all?

    then...

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    and now...

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    At one point I had the
    BSA SS for street only
    A converted SS for dual sport
    And the triumph for dirt/ohv

    These were the only bikes I ran for a long time. The cannables ate up my "orange tanker".

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  6. ttpete

    ttpete Rectum Non Bustibus

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    Jerry's alive and well. I see him most Sundays when the gang meets for breakfast out in the countryside. Did you race AHRMA? If you did, I probably tech'ed your bike a time or two.
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  7. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    I'd like to share my latest expose' here on the lowly victor thread.
    Although it shows my other plated machines you see a compilation of various footage including the
    TR5MX and my SS.
    And like the lyrics state, my SS is the favorite bike to ride...and so......

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    Hang in there with it as there's a long intro/build-up...
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  8. Abdelhub

    Abdelhub Blanco Trasho

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    awesome!....a b50 is on my list of bikes to acquire this year....I have been on a several month uncle sam funded vacation and believe it or not the victor of my 20 or so bikes was the only one to start in the first 5 kicks....(my dkw started in 8 kicks).....bsa singles are awesome....i just wish they didnt shake apart so often....


    Mike
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  9. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    Yep, I raced 250 GP, 350 GP S.O.S. Formula 3, 500 Premier , Formula 750 and B.O.T.T. at different times all #146 and all Ducatis.
    The bike in this pic is my 450 Duc that ran in the Premier 500 class.
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  10. ttpete

    ttpete Rectum Non Bustibus

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    I hit just about everything in the late '80s and all of the '90s East of the Mississippi and also Steamboat Springs. Usually worked and traveled with John Goodpaster. You had a real job to do with the 450 against all of the big time Premier riders. After John left, things changed and I kind of didn't get along with the new people.
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  11. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    John is a great guy, I'm sure we've met as well.
    Running the 450 in premier was like pushing a rope uphill. Usually the best i could hope for was first Ducati, it was always a goal to not be lapped by Roper, a goal rarely acheived. The best thing about AHRMA was the people, like an extended family. Sometimes it was an extended disfuncional family , but family all the same.
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  12. orgo

    orgo Been here awhile

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    I bought a new B 441 BSA Victor Special . My second bike the first being a '64 Honda 305 Super Hawk.

    It must have been the only Victor ever produced that was trouble free and easily started and I rode it hard . It was my commuter and I took on 400 mile round trips. I would pull the fenders and lights off and run it on a dirt track on weekends. Ran it off road and did some hill climbs ran it in the snow and later in the sand dunes in Florida. When I initially picked up the bike from the dealer I had a hard time starting it and after many trips to the dealer trying to convince them that the bike wasn't right they finally agreed to put it in the shop. Can't remember what they fixed but it usually started on the first or second kick after that
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  13. Wade Schields

    Wade Schields Adventurer

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    Ive got a 66 Victor I am rebuilding right now. Frame is in the paint shop as we speak and the motor is at Sixth Street Specials in NYC. Im rebuilding it in their basement. Also reading the Rupert Ratio Unit Single book so I can do it right (hopefully) . Ive got other singles as well. A 51 plunger frame 500 and a 1956 factory flat track racer 500 all running, and a C15 that that is mostly missing. Need a distributor to see in the motor runs before I even consider that project. Ive alway wanted a B33 and a B40. Singles are so much fun....
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  14. Motomochila

    Motomochila Moto Scientist and time traveler

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    Yep, doing the same myself.
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  15. Andyvh1959

    Andyvh1959 Cheesehead Klompen

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    Buddy of mine just finished another 441 for a friend. Steve does nice nice work in his own one stall garage. He has done a 441 before, two Norton Commandos, convert an old XS650 I gave him into a nice cafe racer, fixed up a Husqvarna Chapparal step through I gave him, and many other bikes. But he has a weird bent toward the Brit bikes. 441 Victor.jpg
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  16. Wade Schields

    Wade Schields Adventurer

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    A man after my own heart.... Although I havent and dont plan to touch anything other then a Brit bike and time in the foreseeable future ;)
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  17. Wade Schields

    Wade Schields Adventurer

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    Wow !! I hope mine will look that good !!!
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  18. krampus von der fan

    krampus von der fan This one time at bant camp.....

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    I saved my money and bought a brand new B50 when I was in high school. After I had ridden it a few weeks at the local field, a fellow offered to let me ride his Penton if I let him ride my BSA....."Sure!" After few laps on the Penton The owner flagged me down and told me my BSA "had just stopped running" He got on his bike and took off, leaving me to sort out my bike. after a few stomps on the kicker it was apparent that it was locked up. I pushed the bike back home and then back to the dealer for possible warranty. A few days later I stopped by the dealer and was told "you can't rev these things like a 2 stroke son, you broke the rod" Never did see that Penton guy again.
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  19. ttpete

    ttpete Rectum Non Bustibus

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    Not uncommon for a B50. The cure is a Carrillo rod and a rebalance.
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  20. Rob Farmer

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    Hill Climber B50

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    if you like to see old singles racing...full screen and turn up the voluume

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