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Discussion in 'Northeast - Greater Flugistan and home of the carp' started by thump!, Jan 19, 2016.
Hey that IRC TR8 under the mud looks familiar!
Yes, 5 of 7 days were wet in September 2013-supposedly dry season-for first 1/2 of CDR.
Well, we're back from our ride and there will be a ride report coming in the near future. We started in Murphy NC to get new tires on all four bikes and then started our ADV ride near Maggie Valley. We hooked on to the MAT1 track off of 16 (Back of the Dragon) north of Marion VA and rode it up to the area just west of Basye Va. There was a glitch or two in the track route and I'll post those up here (a locked gate on private property in Va and a very rutted/muddy steep hill with an easy work around). The locked gate had an easy road route around that put us back on the MAT1 track at the start of Hogback Ridge Rd - now that was interesting on big bikes :) Over all it was a great track that left us wishing for nothing more - great scenery, challenging sections among some pretty easy gravel roads, relatively easy "outs" for camping, food, etc. I'd highly recommend the part we rode but I will say if you're bringing a big bike to also bring your A game. In addition to Hogback Mountain, there were a few other sections that were steeply pitched rock gardens that made for some exciting times. My three buds were on the KLRs they used last year on our TAT ride and I took my 1200GS this year:
The end of Hogback Ridge Rd:
Mud also happens even when it's been dry for a while:
My TKC80 made for a challenge in the deep mud even aired down into the mid20s on pressure. The KLRs on D606 tires had no trouble.
The locked gate on the MAT1 was at the turn onto Round Mountain Rd off of Gose Rd. This spot on the track is almost exactly due east of Tazwell just as the track attempts to turn back into the Jefferson NF. We routed around on 61 up to I-77. A few miles south on I-77, exit to go through Bastian and pick up Hogback Ridge Rd just after crossing the overpass. I'll post our exact track when I can get my act (and my honey-do list) in order.
Hogback has taken it's toll on many a rider, including me. Glad you guys enjoyed it!
The KLR's don't have enough power to break traction even in the mud
Three of us on 250s are riding the MAT2 from Coudersport. Is there many places that we can just pull off the route and camp?
Not really looking for campgrounds just woods camping?
In national forests I believe you can camp nearly anywhere. I don't know about state forests - you'll be riding a lot of those.
A couple of weeks ago Pyg Ryder and I re-rode the Harrisonburg, VA to Lock Haven, PA part of MAT1. It was excellent.
Glad to see this thread has already been resurrected.
I'm going to ride the TAT in 2 months. I'm leaving from Montreal and was looking for an interesting itinerary to get to the start of the TAT, Tellico Plain, TN. The MAT seems to be a godsend as it almost perfectly correlates with my intended route and passes very close to Montreal.
So a BIG THANK YOU for making these tracks available :)
My original plan was to ride the Trans West Virginia Trail, but I can't find the tracks. Does this track (MAT1) venture in similar trails?
Let me just throw this out there having ridden both the MAT and the NY TAT leg. The MAT track through Virginia is much more challenging in spots than the NY leg of the TAT. It'll also require some route arounds for a dead end or two. GPSKevin's NY leg stays pretty much on forest roads and twisty back roads through that area. The MAT took us 2 days to get through VA where the TAT track can be easily done in a day. Not saying which you should do - just putting it out there.
If you find that you need tires near the start of the TAT at Andrews, there's a great option nearby that can be found at ridewnc.com. Mike runs a very competent tire business out of his garage and has taken care of us on multiple occasions. Also, you mentioned the TAT start at Tellico Plains - Sam added about 80 miles on to the front from Andrews that is really worth the ride to get to TP. And if you need it, there's a cheap clean hotel within about 200 yards of mile 0 on the TAT there in Andrews.
I've got the tracks and maps from Sam but haven't looked at them carefully yet. I will start the TAT in Andrews, NC like you recommend.
Thanks for the tips on the tire shop, will definitely use them if it appears I need new tires at this point.
From your description of it, I think the MAT track seems much more interesting to ride than Kevin NY TAT leg. I will stick to the MAT to the T
One departure from the MAT that will serve you well to get to the start of the TAT is to leave the MAT as it turns westward toward Jellico and hook on to GPSKevin's track (It was a red track on my files) through the Pisgah and Smoky mountains. That'll take you down to just north of Maggie Valley which is just an 80 mile twisty road away from the Murphy Andrews area.
Any new information available on the MAT2 northern end of this adventure? We rode up to Cloudersport last year and are looking to maybe return this year and finish the ride up to Maine. Anyone ridden it in the last year or two? Any advice about riding through these areas?
We jut rode it a few weeks ago. Had a great time. There's a ride report.
Has anyone ridden the MAT1 track from central Virginia up into PA? We're headed out that way tomorrow to ride the Peters Mill Run and Taskers Gap ORV area and them roam west over to hook on to the MAT1 track near Mathias. From there we'll be headed north into PA where we'll loop back down into the Cotactin to camp. Looking at about a 260 mile day and hoping to get some intel here that the MAT1 track segment we're riding can be done in, oh, say 4 - 5 hours or less?
I went out this past week and rode the MAT1 track from Mathias VA to near the PA state line. We rode it last year from Rt 16 (Back of the Dragon) to Mathias so this ride completed the track through VA. We thought this northern part of the MAT1 was a great scenic and easy ride that was maybe 60/40 unpaved/paved. The lower end of the MAT1 we'd ridden last year had some pretty challenging bits ridden on big bikes (KLRs & 1200GS) but lots of fun. This northern bit was more of a low challenge ramble through some really beautiful forests and farmland.
I rode the MAT from Coudersport to Maine this year. Where did you come into the challenging sections on the lower part?
We hopped on to it just north of Marion VA off RT 16 and worked our way up through the Jefferson Forest. There was one very muddy, deeply rutted hill that there was an easy work around for that came up soon after we got on it. About 60 miles of trail north of there, right off I-77, is the bottom of Hogback Ridge Rd over Hogback Mountain. That was about 11 miles of A game on a 1200GS and even the guys on the KLRs were struggling a bit with the deep mud and steep rocky slopes.
There were a few other places where the trail got a bit rocky. Everything was possible on a big adv bike with some skillz.
Hogback Ridge has taken down quite a few folks (including me). One of my friends submerged his airbox in one of those deep mud holes. It's better to go around the edges of those!