The Making of a Cross Canada Route

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Deadly99, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. Two VT Riders

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    Wow,
    Just added up the suggested/estimated times for a portion of "the forest" section through Ontario.
    10-15 days :eek1

    Guess I won't be doing the section of the TCAT from Banff home to Vermont after the CDR after all. No way to fit that into 4 weeks...:cry
    bummer!

    Then I thought about skipping the prairies by slab. Then I looked at those routes, and thought about my wife slabbing all that flat on her xt225, and how well she'd love that (:puke1), and how I better not ruin a good thing (my marriage) by planning that.

    Now to formulate a Plan b... :1drink
    What ever that might be.:(:
  2. olebiker

    olebiker Old buzzard bait

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    Be a good guy and put a throttle lock on that 225 and she be good to go.:rofl
  3. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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    I just sent Ted the most recent revision to the TCAT GPX file. This incorporates all the changes and improvements made since the last version he posted for download.

    Once Ted looks it over, he'll make it available on the TCAT web site.

    The file is fine for navigating the TCAT. There are a few short sections where we would like to get raw tracklines back after people have ridden those sections so I can update the GPX with the most accurate information available.

    I mentioned that I would prepare a map image of the trackline that you could load into your GPS that would overlay the track on whatever background map you use. This can replace loading the track segments into the GPS (or serve as simultaneous "back-up" if you load the overlay and the tracks together). The overlay will not have waypoints on it since they would not have waypoint functionality. I'll knock out the overlay and send it to Ted to make available this week.
  4. kiffernathan

    kiffernathan Been here awhile

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    :eek1

    Don't do it - it's a great section of the route! Get extra time off!!!

    Too many roads - too little time, eh? Story of my life too - otherwise I'd be the first one down the TCAT myself.
  5. BordenBmw

    BordenBmw TheFrenchRider

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  6. Two VT Riders

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    Yes indeed. Unfortunately, CDR and Banff-ish to Montreal-ish is looking like maybe 5-6 weeks, if we are not looking to ride all day, everyday.

    Now I need to not only get us and bikes west, but home again.

    Anyone with a hitch/truck traveling west in early July? How about East in late July?
  7. kiffernathan

    kiffernathan Been here awhile

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    CDR took me two weeks one way at a fairly good pace - one day off in Cuba NM for illness (boil water advisory we were not "advised" of). From the north end of the CDR (Roosville) it's about 41 miles to Fernie BC, where you can pick up the TCAT.

    From Fernie to the Manitoba/Ontario border (about straight north of Minneapolis) would take about 10 days at a 400 km/day pace. If you ride from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM every day you should be able to do it in that time.

    My guess is that you could manage the same pace for the 3000 km or so to Ottawa from the Manitoba/Ontario border, and that this stretch would take you around 8 days. This assumes you skip all of the technical sections and just ride the main route.

    So that's 31 days total from the start of the CDR to Ottawa on the TCAT - yikes! Looks like you might have to pick and choose.

    If I may make a suggestion, places that are further away will be more difficult for you to get to and to ride in the future. So when I am doing something like this I try to ride the stuff furthest from home and slab in between. That way even if I have a shorter vacation the next time I can get back to the stuff I missed anyway. Of course, slabbing any distance on an XT225 is a challenge in itself!

    Keep us posted as to how the trip plan goes.
  8. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    We've been going back and forth with a company called Backroads Mapbooks.

    Going forward the TCAT will be included in their paper map books as they recreate them. The Saskatchewan book is coming out shortly and will include the TCAT. As they update their other books they too will have the TCAT in them.

    This company also sells SD cards with base maps for GPS units. The TCAT will appear on these as they get updated (I think they have a 6 month lifecycle so by the end of the year all of their SD cards will have the TCAT on them).

    We're pretty stoked to have have the TCAT included in their line of products.

    Also of note is version 2.2 of the gpx file download has been published. Once again a thanks to Cannonshot who has spent hours going over the track file in methodical detail to find minor inconsistencies between the tracks and what satellite maps show..THANKS! A couple of overview maps are also in the bundle now, one for each province as well as a pdf of the route description (this was requested by various folks heading out to ride the TCAT this season). We're still waiting for the detailed pdf file maps...

    Seems like there are a few groups attempting the route from start to finish this year...good luck and we can't wait to read your ride reports. It is quite humbelling to see people travelling from the other side of the world to come to Canada to ride the route. After many years of planning and putting this project together, I think I speak for everyone who has contributed to the route, that its exciting for us to know the route will be ridden in its entirety this year...even if we are disappointed its not us :D

    Cheers
    Ted
  9. kiffernathan

    kiffernathan Been here awhile

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    Awesome news, Ted. I kind of figured it would be good to get the route into those backroad mapbooks, just from the point of view that anyone buying the mapbooks gets the route indicated as a bonus - plus it gives the TCAT more exposure.

    Way to go!
  10. G-Mac

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    Wow that's great. I have a copy of their book. Can't wait for the new versions.
    Now with this Sd card thing I might even consider a GPS unit.
    You guys have put a lot of work into this.
    Much appreciated.
  11. hardwaregrrl

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    Man thats great Ted!!! Congrats to all!!!
  12. MFS

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    That is awesome, great news and kutos to you for thinking of it, and following up with them!
    And thanks to BackRoads Maps for recognizing your work and acheivment!

    I have their MB and NW Ont book, great to have in combo with a GPS, great detail! For those of you folks that haven't picked one up yet, now regrets. ESPECIALLY the NW Ont book for me, sooo many logging roads there....

    MFS
  13. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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  14. juames

    juames Have Fun, Don't Die!

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    Awesome! :clap
  15. gunnerbuck

    gunnerbuck Island Hopper

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    Hey ted, I'm on the trail now and checked out the higher
    Pass last night and it is free of snow... So the Island section
    is good to go... One area near Woss has a washout, but
    We easily maneuvered around it with fully loaded
    Bikes...
  16. damurph

    damurph Cold Adventurer

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    Kevin is starting from here. Damned fine ride just to get this far. I made this offer to him so I make it to all. Anybody wants to ship anything for the start from the East is welcome to PM me. I am on the tent space map as well.
  17. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    :thumb
  18. Slowphil

    Slowphil REALLY Gnarly Adventurer

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    Anybody need a place to stay in Nova Scotia, drop me a line everybody's always welcome!:clap
  19. Dan Alexander

    Dan Alexander only happy when sad

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    Wow, from small beginings grow great things.

    Kudo's to everyone involved

    :clap :clap
  20. Lurkerlou

    Lurkerlou Been here awhile

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    I have the back road map books and also their SD card for my Garmin 660 so I really look forward to their adding it to their electronic version via updates.

    I will contact them to congratulate them on their collaboration by adding this :)