Right on E30 and thanks for the detailed reply. A GREAT deal of time goes into this stuff and every one that does take the time paves the way for others, myself included, that my not brave the unknown. Previous trips (3 cross country month long road trips) have been all paved and focusing on hitting the national parks and stuff and although spectacular I now wish to see some of the western areas via BDR routes and Jeep trails. Any GPS coordinates will be extremely helpful as a base map to use or modify in my Garmin Basecamp software. My preference for riding is twisty asphalt and dirt roads/ single track. I lead adventure rides for our local BMW dealership and have a training program as well. I recently had Shawn Thomas and his brother Lance, both former RawHyde instructors and now working for BMW directly as well, at my house for a group class and that was very cool. I got busy and haven't fooled around with my FB page much lately but it is GS Riders of Velocity Cycles. There are some cool pictures on there of the single track trails we do on the GS's and various group ride stuff. Check it out and Like it if you are into that kind of stuff. Catch you later and Thx again.