The Mobius Trip

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by DR. Rock, May 23, 2008.

  1. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    cattle, NOT bear. But we didn't see any (of either).

    We were aiming for two campgrounds that were near each other, and were relieved when we saw the sign pointing to them.

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    You may be wondering why we're so keen this Mobius trip to be staying in N.F. campgrounds whereas previously we had been content to cowboy camp wherever we got tired at the end of a day. Answer: fire restrictions. It's been a hot, dry summer, and there was a campfire ban nearly everywhere except for designated campgrounds. So if we wanted a campfire :kumbaya (we did), we'd have to find a campground. :dunno
  2. malibu_dan

    malibu_dan Adventuring Mystic

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    I'm all caught up!

    :lurk

    You may now continue. Love that you two share your adventures with us.
  3. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    So we get to the crossroads. Sandhill Crossing is to our left about a mile, and Lee Thomas is to our right about a half mile so we head to Lee Thomas first.

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    for reasons that I'll show in the next video (and explain afterwards), we back-tracked,

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    and tried

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    This is what we found:

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    Both campgrounds had been essentially clear cut. :dunno Since it was already after 5pm, we didn't have any better options.

    These were our stats for the day,

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    and the elevation profile:

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  4. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    was not completely without merit,

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    from certain angles, it was downright pretty.

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    especially down by the stream (Cold Creek)

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    We washed up, (or at least I think I washed up :dunno)

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    Saw some deer,

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    Had a nice dinner, wine, campfire, hot cocoa with bourbon, and then tucked in for a chilly night. :vardy
  5. NOTAR_520

    NOTAR_520 Been here awhile

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    Nuts, He saw MaverickChick and I late Aug. We turned around at the open gate here N42 15.900 W120 24.222, and rode slow back to the Asphalt(we didn't talk to him). Did he say how many groups of travelers he saw over the summer? I'm sure lots of TAT trips happen that we don't see on these page's. This was our 1st of 2 turn around points in Oregon. BigWan and crew took a digger(2up) near here into a hole dug by a back hoe, I'm guessing: N42 13.621 W120 22.612 before the turn onto the dirt road. This spot has tripped up many TAT riders. I did LOL for a moment.

    Great RR, Thanks for sharing, and the HD video looks GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!
  6. Trailace

    Trailace Long timer

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    We ran down the same road a week after you but I guess we were to early for him to see us. We did not go around the first gate we enter that road off County Road 2-18. However we did have to go around the gate at the end. :eek1
  7. NorthernTraveler

    NorthernTraveler Long time Adventurer

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    I didn't write up this road in my list of reroutes - you gotta be able to handle SOME challenges!
    Here is the list of my reroutes.....
    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=398452&page=4

    It was gated closed on the southern end in Oct '07 and again in Aug '09.

    It was open at the country road, but there was a new sign saying in big letters 'Private Road' in Aug '09.

    And yes, you can get around the gate on the north end fairly easily.

    The big thing - that we should ALWAYS practice - is when we ride by someones house, we should ride like we would want someone else to ride by our houses.

    In other words - TAKE IT EASY!!!!!!

    The amount of time we save by zipping by somebodies house is more than offset by the time it takes to figure out the new road closures caused by somebody zipping by somebody else's house! LOL....

    Carry on.... carry on....
  8. Trailace

    Trailace Long timer

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    I agree with ya and we slowed down at all the homes along the trail, besides there wasn't that many.
  9. RenoDeano

    RenoDeano High Desert Drifter

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    Was really getting a chuckle out of LDF hauling A.. after seeing the bear. Very good reaction. My initial training was worth it, right.

    In my RR I recommended taking the highway out of town a few miles instead of going though the gates and properties near Lakeview.

    Dean
  10. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    The irony is that of all the people I have ever ridden with, LDF is the absolute LAST person who could ever be accused of "hot-rodding"! :ricky


    Me on the other hand... :augie

    She ALWAYS takes it easy (especially if there's any risk from oncoming traffic, or blind curves, or potential livestock, etc.)... and that's not a criticism, 'cause she can still lay down more miles by the end of the day than most "hot-rodders". How? Start early, keep moving, minimize breaks, ride late, and DON'T CRASH. :nod

    But yeah, the guy seemed pretty traumatized from all the traffic over the summer. Or he was tightly wound by nature. :dunno
  11. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    NO! You're the one who started her "bearanoia" that lasted almost the entire trip! :lol3
  12. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    we awoke to frost!
    :vardy:vardy

    Nothing a little hot oatmeal and coffee couldn't cure

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    We waited for the sun to dry out the tent fly, and started rolling around just shy of 8:30am.

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  13. SlowRide13

    SlowRide13 Veteran n00b

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    I wondered about that. This picture above is bear poop. But I think the stuff on the road/video (where LDF saw the bear) was horse poop (AKA tasty bear snacks).

    So I've been wondering if RenoDeano taught LDF to identify horse poop or perhaps ALL poop as bear poop??? Has he been snickering about it all along?
  14. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    A day which took us from Sandhill Crossing Campground, north through the Sycan marsh area, to Silverlake, OR then west through Deschutes and Winema N.F.'s to Crescent/Gilchrist, OR

    (Click on the map to access larger versions, X3 or O sizes)

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  15. Rectaltronics

    Rectaltronics Barned

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    Another possibility is a bit of both. As I have been seeing in my investigation of the anti-noise crowd's activities, some are so sensitive and bothered by it (might be unfair to call that "tightly wound") that they will move to the middle of nowhere in the hopes of finding peace and quiet. Frequently they discover they have merely traded urban noise for modern-day suburban or rural noise, that motor vehicle noise has somehow followed them, etc.
  16. TwilightZone

    TwilightZone Long timer

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    >"Both campgrounds had been essentially clear cut. :dunno "

    May have been for fire protection. It looks like there is a huge proportion of beetle-killed trees in that area. Once a fire gets started in that stuff, the place goes up like tinder.
  17. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    was classic TAT. There's a rhythm to it... a technical "special" section, and just as you're starting to think you'll never get through it, an easy "transit" section... repeat. Then, just as you get complacent, another special. Throw into the mix a gas / food oasis, and a couple scenic and historical points of interest, and you've got yourself a day on the TAT.

    The theme for the day was sand & dust. LDF struggled with the former, and I with the latter.

    We started with a transit:

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    Followed by a special, transitioning to another liason:<object width="640" height="360">


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    The temps warmed quickly, and by mid-morning we were in the mid 60's. :thumb
  18. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    was a power-line road. There was a larger graded road that followed a gentle "S" route that the power-line crossed several times. Here's the commentary, (text summary below)

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    Basically, having a technical section so nearby to an obviously easier bypass isn't ideal. I mean, if you're going to suffer, there should be some reward. Yes, the technical riding can be fun... but hey, there's plenty to go around... to be gratifying, it has to have some other purpose -- to get across a river without having to go 30 miles out of the way to cross at the highway bridge, to summit a pass that affords fabulous views not obtainable on pavement, etc.

    So when Sam routes the TAT onto technical trails within eyesight of an easier bypass, I feel a little silly. My compromise is to ride some of it to make sure that we're not missing a hero section where the difficulty itself is worth it, and then at that point, cut ahead to the more remote, scenic terrain. :dunno
  19. Questor

    Questor More Undestructable

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    Yeup.
    We did the same road out of Lake View.
    Rode though the first open gate, slow past the house, and detoured left around the post and gate at the north end.
    Just followin' the GPS.

    Besides, how you "Close" a public road?
    Q~
  20. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    Sam put us on a decommissioned railroad bed.

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    On the Topo 2008 maps, it's labeled as the Weyerhaeuser Timber Co. Railroad. Turns out, this rail line was built in 1909, and was part of one of the largest logging rail lines, and the last to be used in OR, ceasing operations in 1990.

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    For much of it's history, the "Woods Line" was owned and operated by the Weyerhaeuser Timber Company. There are some excellent web pages tracing out the history of the line.

    This one is on trainweb, someone else has another here, and there was a recent news story (with a 6min video).

    As I was riding, it occurred to me that I had a personal connection to Weyerhaeuser. It was the company my father worked for in Chicago in it's paper products division when I was a child. If I recall correctly, I even got some scholarship money for college from them. Chicago is a far cry from these northwest woods, but it was neat to consider that in the 70's and 80's, maybe when this line was active, our family's paycheck was coming from paper products perhaps derived from lumber that was harvested in this area, and transported on the very rail bed beneath my wheels. I wanted to record some of this section, and look up the history for myself in a little more detail, 'cause I thought it might be interesting to my dad... so, hi Dad, enjoy. :wave (sorry if the rest of you are bored :dunno)

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