The Mobius Trip

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by DR. Rock, May 23, 2008.

  1. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    up and across the Wasatch range in Fishlake N.F. Our route overlapped a stretch we had done on Mobius II for a few miles.

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    Looking at the next set of peaks on the other side of the Sevier River valley, it became clear that we were making the right choice in routing at the lower elevations.

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    Those babies are up around 11-12k ft. I'd have loved to ridden across that area on Big John Flat, Beaver Creek, and Kimberley roads. I worked hard routing through there, but, alas... something to come back to. :thumb

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    For now, we'll have to be content with what I've come up with on this side of the valley.

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  2. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    be on well-marked roads,

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    but there was one section which was the "up and over" bit that I wasn't so sure about. It was one of those squiggly, dotted lines, but it was crucial to this route, as the go-around meant dropping back down onto pavement, and skipping the majority of the dirt section I'd plotted up to Joseph/Elsinore/Richfield.

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    It teased us with a few rutted, muddy sections, then eased up again,

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    Then things started to get really ugly. :eek1
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    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    Satan's Colon ugly... :wink: but remember, we're carrying all our camping gear, and we don't have a truck and trailer waiting for us at the end of the trail.

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    In the above photo, I can tell you now, that the signs of trouble brewing are already detectable. :brow The old LDF would have stopped at the top of this descent (usual disclaimers -- was actually steeper than it looks in the photo, etc.) and we'd exchange a few words
    "want me to ride you through?"
    "Nah, just you go first and show me the line and tell me if it's better or worse than it looks"
    "OK, here goes... " ".... it wasn't so bad, but stay to the right, there's a rut on the left that gets deep and loose"
    And then we'd carry on.

    You can see she's already cleaned the section, and is down around the curve, standing on the pegs, gunning for more. :pynd

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    Now it's getting really nasty, and while she lets me go first, she's still not giving up... she's determined to ride everything through herself. Hmmm.

    I have mixed feelings about this.

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    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    describe the action over the next 40 minutes, and LDF can add color commentary as she sees fit.

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  5. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    :deal That's the stuff that did her in. That really porous lava rock, loose and lightweight. Crossing over it is like being on ice. Any steering, braking, or throttle input results in a sideways bike. Problem is when you're on a steep downhill, you accumulate momentum mighty quickly.

    That was a veritable "Most Difficult" ATV trail, and probably some of the most technical riding we'd done on any Mobius trip. It was worse than Warloop rd, worse than anything on the White Rim Trail, and worse than anything going over the Rockies in CO. (Note: we skipped Hancock/Tomichi passes, but I'd bet it was comparable).

    The section was NOT, however, the worst we'd see on this trip. :brow Maybe not even the worst for the day. :wink: Looks like we'd be kicking things up a notch... better get acclimated.

    As for the biff, it was pretty hard. Her fourth crash in as many days. :scratch We debriefed, and I tried to give some gentle pointers, but it was clear that there was a war going on in her head... riding skills have plateaued .... I'm holding myself back by having a timid attitude ... MUST BE FEARLESS ... crashing hurts ... breaking the bike, or body will end the trip and we're not even back on the TAT... I can do it... I am a truck...

    For the time being, though, we were down in the valley, and back on graded roads.

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    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    For all the times she hit the ground; yeah, she got frustrated, yeah, it hurt, yeah, she was discouraged, but EVERY single time, she'd pick herself up, dust herself off, help pick up the bike, climb back on, straighten the mirror, grit her teeth, hit the starter button, and motor on. No drama, no melt-downs. Just a fair assessment: am I hurt? is the bike broken? am I dehydrated? exhausted? NO? OK. You ready? Let's go.

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    just remind her that when NFL players go down 3 trainers rush out and gently help them limp off the field so she's way tougher than those bums.

    right on LDF :thumb
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    the heck with that if it was me :ymca the new attitude would be in a jeep. :D
  9. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    were spent in the heat of the Sevier valley. First at Joseph for gas and snacks (same place we'd stopped at on Mobius II right before heading up to Mystic Hot Springs). Then on to

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    to look for a new stove, and finally all the way up to Richfield where there was a Wal-mart, Ace Hardware, and an ATV shop that may or might not also sell camping gear.

    Well, there was a bit of running around, but no one seemed to have anything that was an unleaded-burning capable upgrade to the Coleman 443 Exponent multi-fuel stove, and that one just wasn't cutting it. Of course, no one had the part so we could just fix the one we had, ($12 @ Amazon).

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    and then limp through this trip the stove we were carrying, and then do proper research to make sure we had a stove where this wouldn't happen again. I contemplated just getting one of the Brunton propane/butane cannister stoves. They were ~$30 + the cannisters, but I was concerned about finding cannisters out where we were going in NV. I really wanted something that would burn unleaded.

    I settled on another Coleman for ~$48. The 533.

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    I stripped off all the packaging, and threw it in the side bag. It's a little bigger and heavier, but uses the same generator technology as the 445 Exponent which had failed, as well as the Feather 442 which I had back in NYC. I'd lost faith in these stoves to cut it in the outback when using unleaded, and was NOT happy to buy another Coleman, but that's all they had that fit the bill. :bluduh

    In retrospect, there are enough reports of these stoves gumming up the generator tube when using unleaded, that I should have been packing the maintenance kit. I'm not losing sleep. In Reno, we found a great deal on a way better replacement, and all things Coleman (at least stove-wise) are now out of our lives. :nod
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    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    hey Scott :wave

    The irony being that picking up the pieces after a hard fall takes time, slows down forward progress (especially if you have to fix something), and more significantly, saps energy, meaning you're tired earlier, and don't get as far each day.

    On a two-week trip like this, on loaded bikes, the priority has to be to do whatever it takes to ride as fast as you want, but without falling. :gerg There's little to be gained, and much to be lost by pushing hard, and breaking bike or body. The goal is to safely get both of us and our bikes through whatever the route throws at us.

    It still took a couple more good whacks on the head :baldy before we eventually sorted all this out but I don't want to get ahead of the story, though, so I'll just leave it at that.

    PS: a jeep would not go all of where we went. :nono No way, no how.
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    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    I had failed to connect the positive lead to my GPS hardwire and on day 1 had the internal batteries die. An easy fix, and actually not the dreaded v.3.90 recalculation-freeze bug as I feared.

    Well, at some point (I can't exactly remember when), LDF's 76Cx in fact, did develop the dreaded v.3.90 freeze. I recognized the symptoms from this thread, and anticipating the possibility, had already prepared back-up micro SD cards with the same maps and taped them to the inside of the battery cover of both units.

    It was really a quick fix, and gratifying to pop the battery cover, swap the cards, and have the unit work perfectly the remainder of the trip.

    Our experiences this trip with the stove, the GPS, my cell-phone/PDA USB charging cable (frayed & stopped charging), my eyeglasses (coming up), and the Scala's has led me to really re-think what we carry on these trips. When you're depending on something working, it's probably a good idea to consider it's vulnerabilities, and imagine every concievable way that thing can fail, and how it might be fixed / replaced.

    If it takes a part, then carry a spare. If it's something that might not be fixable (a camera, for instance), bring a back-up one. If you're not gonna carry a spare, but plan on buying a part or replacement, know what towns are big enough to be able to find what you need. Otherwise, resign yourself to travelling without that thing for what might be a good long while. :deal
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    We headed back into the Fishlake N.F. now west of the Sevier valley,

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    to meet back up with the TAT where we had left it. Sept '08:

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    About 1/4 mile before we got back to this point, we passed a road grader headed in this direction. We quickly set up the photo, and could hear the grader getting closer and closer...

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    Hurry... shit. :yikes Here it comes..

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    the guy's like, "wha?? the heck are they doing??"

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    We're cracking up... :lol3 "let's get out of here"

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    and off we go:

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    neither would I. :D
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    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    are back on some "more difficult" and / or "most difficult" ATV trails.

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    Some patches of snow, but always passable. I think Sam has done a great job of routing through this area with good riding at elevations which maximize the riding season. :thumb

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    If we hadn't suffered the technical sections in the morning, and had just come down from Salina via the TAT, I think this part of the trail would have been an eye-opener.

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    Yes, I rode both bikes up this section... it was mega-steep. That's LDF hiking up past my bike about half-way up the hill. :brow
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    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    of pretty yellow flowers, so we stopped for a photo-op of all things yellow:

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    Even the Blueberry got a yellow flower for the bud vase that all DRz's come with:

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    Just like VW bugs. :D
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    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    remained challenging

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    and between the morning's "special" and running around finding a new stove, it was getting late, and we were getting tired.

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    This was 2nd - 3rd gear stuff, max.

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    of course, my photos reflect the easier sections that I can ride with one hand only on the bars.

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    Eventually, the trail drops into Cottonwood creek canyon, then Corn Creek canyon, and eventually Kanosh Canyon, and the trail turns to road.

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    I had hoped to get further for the day, but when we passed this campsite, we decided to check it out.

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    I knew Kanosh was just up ahead, and also knew we'd be coming out of the N.F. following that and wasn't sure what our camping opportunities would be. It looked like the weather was going to be nice, so we preferred to camp rather than stay in a motel in Kanosh. There was fresh water, but no shower here, and only just past 4pm, so :scratch
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    was deserted. And lovely. The verdict was unanimous: we would stay. :thumb

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    There was a creek running just on the other side, and ample firewood, and pretty blue flowers,

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    it looked like the place was landscaped or something. (it wasn't)

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    We had a quick snack, and decided to ditch some gear, and ride 5 miles into Kanosh for provisions.

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    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    When we got back, I took the opportunity of daylight to break out the tools. My rear brake pedal was much lower than I liked it... I figured I'd raise it a cm or so.

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    That was easy enough. Following behind LDF, I had noticed that she seemed to be riding her brakes. She swore that her hand wasn't even on the front lever, or foot on the pedal unless she was actively braking, so I figured I'd have to adjust the switch on her rear pedal.

    What I found instead was this:

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    When I went to take a closer look with my glasses on, this is what I found:

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    :twitch And these WERE my back-up pair. I had lost my new flexi-frame pair riding my bicycle to work the week before we left. :doh

    Anyway, back to the brake: removing the clutch cover to change the plates requires removal of the brake pedal and the moron who did that job forgot to re-attach the return spring.

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    While I was working on that, LDF walked around the campground, collected firewood, and took some nice photos.

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    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    what to do with the gummed-up stove. I wanted to toss it in the trash, I was so disgusted with Coleman. It's about $60-70 worth of stove. I figured the part was $10, so it seemed a shame to throw it away. On the other hand, I didn't even want ONE Coleman stove, certainly not two. I didn't want to have to carry two stoves the rest of the trip. And then what? Send one back home? Sell it on Craigslist in Reno?

    Here's what we did:

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    MTrider16 Ridin' in MT

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    Its that or not bringing anything more complicated than a hammer. :evil Low tech is the best way in my opinion. Of course I have a GPS, Spot, Digi Camera and a BMW. :eek1 Obviously I have been breaking my own rules. :lol3

    Thanks for the great report.

    David