The Mobius Trip

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by DR. Rock, May 23, 2008.

  1. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    was Nelson's where we met Justin, the mechanic, and Courtney. The UPS package from Cardo was waiting for us,... even though I wasn't able to get cell service to give her the heads up that it was arriving, and even though UPS delivered it next door... Super thanks to Courtney :thumb:thumb:thumb

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    Justin was working on an ATV, and we discussed what would work best for him. We had some chores to do, find a hotel, eat lunch, do laundry... and he said he would be working 'till late, prepping bikes for a race the next day.

    He put our tires (130/90-18 Pirelli MT-21's) in the sun to warm up, and we decided we'd use the bikes to get our laundry done, and then to bring them back to him around 3-4pm to have the rear tires mounted.

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    We didn't have the opportunity to meet any of the Nelsons, but the crew they had there running the place were top-notch. A couple notes for those contemplating having tires shipped / mounted. Be prepared and call / email ahead. They don't keep many (any?) dual sport DOT tires in stock. I had arranged this 3 weeks ahead. We paid list price for the tires ($105.95 each + tax), and mounting was $50/tire, wheel on the bike. I didn't haggle or negotiate, because I was happy to have new tires, and to have someone else deal with mounting them while I took a shower and relaxed. I don't feel we were taken advantage of, or gouged, but it is the most I've paid for tires / mounting ever, even in NYC.

    Unlike DockingPilot, an offer wasn't extended to use any tools, nor to have us work on our bikes in the garage (though we snuck in for a photo of Justin, and to lay down a Mobius sticker)... in fact, we were told we couldn't hang out in the garage due to insurance issues (which is pretty standard at most shops), so I wouldn't go in with expectations to be able to DIY, unless you clear it with Chip (I presume) in advance.

    Please, don't anyone misinterpret the above; in no way am I complaining; the service was great, the staff was expert, friendly and accomodating, etc. The pricing is what it is... and I was more than happy to pay it. I don't want to start a discussion here, I only mention it as a heads-up, 'cause I know a lot of people ride the TAT on a tight budget, and if you're not willing to pay what they charge, just figure out an alternative.
  2. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    Yea Doc, that is a change from when I was there. Colt Nelson the owner was there that day and did give us full access to his entire garage. But that tech was not working there then though. At least I dont think so. Like you, we paid MSRP for our tires, but it's fair considering your in the midle of the Great Basin desert !
    Super 8 for us.
  3. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    There were the faceless national chains...

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    Closeby only to the interstate, and a McDonalds. Completely devoid of character...

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    Or there were the casino/hotels in the "town center" -- the Nevada,

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    or, The Owl:

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    I could not resist the retro / shabby appeal of The Owl... it drew me in like a moth to a tiki torch.

    On the door to the office:

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    The above mentioned "Cashier Cage"

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    the casino:

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    the room... actually, quite nice :thumb

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    and the Pièce de résistance:

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    the shower, that is. not the toilet. No, on second though... the toilet too. :lol3
  4. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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  5. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    mmmm....

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    LDF made a friend of a future ADV rider:

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    delicious... highly recommended :thumb

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  6. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    they seem to be putting their best face forward in these hard economic times, but if you looked closely, you could see it was hitting hard...

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    This was particularly depressing...

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    Not the thrift store, per se,

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    but this box in particular:

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    I don't know why it struck me... that it existed, or that it was empty. :(:
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    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    we're starting to feel civilized again... :beer

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  8. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    there's a little outdoor gear / clothing store

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    I laughed when I saw they had a Coleman Exponent stove like the one we'd left for dead in Adelaide. :lol3

    While the bikes were at Nelson's, we even walked all the way out to the Flying J where I found a replacement Palm Treo charger since my cable had become frayed and wasn't working. We also stocked up on WD-40, and carmex, and deoderant, and that kind of stuff.

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    Picked up a six-pack on the way back... :freaky
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    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    only half a day rest,

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    it was enough for us to feel recharged,

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    we picked up the bikes and gave Courteny and Justin NYFD pins in gratitude, and headed back to the hotel... now that we were officially done riding for the day, the real drinking could begin :wink:

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    Dinner at the diner,

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    we actually konked out pretty early... I think we left 4 beers in the fridge. :beer

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  10. KI6HNB

    KI6HNB Been here awhile

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    Oh come on. I know you could have rode around for another three tenths of a mile to brake into the tripple digits. :D
  11. Vixen

    Vixen Been here awhile

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    Doc, you & LDF are a obviously a great team. My boyfriend & I are the same, and have logged many miles of riding together and thoroughly enjoyed every second of it. But for some reason we agreed to do our Eastern TAT trip with a group......a decision now in hindsight we should not have made. It was enjoyable, but didn't come remotely close to the trip I had envisioned thanks to your wonderful write ups. I was looking for the same adventure...and you just don't get that in a group ride even if your someone special is part of that group.
    We have other trips planned for the future, and since our return from our first TAT leg just last weekend, my heels are still dug in refusing to allow any other riders (couples or otherwise) join us. Maybe time will change that, but for now I'm not budging.
    Quite possibly this is all your fault for setting my expectations so high....so if I piss some people off, I'm blaming you :deal It's pretty bad when I can honestly say I enjoyed reading your RR more than I enjoyed doing the trip myself :(:
    I hope one day that my boyfriend and I will be able to ride the TAT again, starting from the beginning, just the two of us, the way that we had envisioned it, thanks to you & LDF :bow
  12. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    before I go out drinkin' with the NYC crew tonight:
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    Vixen, sorry to hear your TAT experience wasn't what you expected... even more sorry if I in any way contributed to that. :(:

    I think the key may have been that you were riding in a group. :dunno I can imagine that totally changes the dynamic, and can really slow down forward progress and get frustrating. Hell, it's hard enough accommodating and integrating two people's wants and desires and expectations and needs and fears and preferences and limitations, bathroom breaks and rest stops... A bigger group would really be difficult, especially if the members didn't have a lot of experience together.

    I've played plenty of team sports... I rowed crew in college, and LDF and I are a team like none other I've played on. We divide responsibilities on these trips, and exercise control of our destiny out there much more equally than I probably portray. I think that's the best way to experience an adventure like this... not as a tour group, with a leader / planner, and the rest followers, but with each rider as an essential team member with all depending equally on each other for success.

    Hayduke's and Pyndon's recent ride reports show how that can work well for groups.

    I don't know the details of your trip, but those are just some thoughts.

    Honestly, I have tried to recount our experiences and impressions as they were... not building things up as better than they were, or editing out the tough, nasty, dirty parts (that's dirt-dirt, not the smutty kind. That gets edited out :shog).

    When we're traveling, I pull out the camera, and snap a shot whenever I feel, or see, or smell, or hear, or think something that rises above the boring background noise in my brain. The RR starts as a visual diary. Tons of shots end up on the cutting room floor. When I go back and see the photos, I can't always figure out why I shot it, but often I do, which reminds me of what was going on, and then I write it how I remember it.

    The drama and adventure we experience derive in a large part from having minimal expectations. We prepare extensively, but plan minimally. If that makes any sense? :brow When we wake up in the morning each day, we really don't have a clue where we'll be sleeping that night, or eating, or what difficulties we'll encounter along the way, nor how, or even if we'll overcome them. Also, I try to get the routes and waypoints transcribed into the GPS's weeks in advance, and then I try to forget about them, so when I'm out there, I don't have in my head every single turn that's coming up... more like a vague idea.

    I hope you and your boyfriend have another crack at it... just the two of you, and get it right this time.
    cheers. :beer
  13. O Captain My Captain

    O Captain My Captain Upsetting the apple cart

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    David, I've taken several days to read the RR for all three Mobius rides and don't remember if you mentioned what camera you're using. I'm in the market for a moderately priced point-and-shoot right now and have my eye on the Panasonic TZ5. What are you using and how do you like it? Whatever it is, it seems to take sharp photos. Thanks and awesome RR. :beer
  14. EnduroRdr

    EnduroRdr Woods Racer & D/S Rider

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    I'll be first in line to buy the "Hard Back" copy for our coffee table of the "Mobius Rides" when Dr Rock and LDF publish. (I'm sure there's even more great writing and pictures that gets skipped here that will make it into the book - hint hint)

    Great RR, followed the spot daily now reading the new posts daily.
    Maybe I'll actually do some work next month - Your slowing down our economy even worse keeping so many of us from doing our jobs :oscar
  15. La Donna Fugata

    La Donna Fugata You're not the boss of me

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    Wow Vixen. I can't thank you enough for a nicer compliment.

    I too am sorry for your disappointed adventure; but.... let me share this with you. As much as I loved riding across eastern TAT and Oklahoma (mention it separately because I don't understand why most find it boring; I loved the isolation). The true adventure, as I recall, started after we hit the rockies. I encourage you to pick up the trail as a duo and head westward.:D

    As you may or may not know...... I have been riding a motorcycle for 3 yrs only (on road and off road combined :D :eek1) and once we hit the rockies, I feel my skills have escalated and continue to improve with each 2 week trek that we plan.

    As you have read.... inspite of all my "complaints".....:scratch and other published mishaps :fishie , we have had an AMAZING experience as a couple with a common interest. As my riding experience moves on, I only look forward to whats around the next corner....together.
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    La Donna Fugata You're not the boss of me

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    ......:lol2
  17. Vixen

    Vixen Been here awhile

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    You have nothing to be sorry for Doc.....I have enjoyed your RR tremendously! I know full well that a group ride will never compare to a "couple" ride, but I didn't expect it to become what it was. I mean, it's the TAT for goodness sake, doesn't everyone ride it to enjoy the sights and smells and time to take it all in? Apparently not...LOL I'll take the blame for thinking so though.....duh!!!

    I couldn't agree more.



    I did enjoy the trip itself, as far as the actual "doing" of it. It wasn't the way I wanted to do it, I didn't get to ride the pace that I would've liked to ride it, I didn't get to stop and take as many pictures as I would have liked to take, didn't get to see all the things I wanted to see. There were a few times that I dug my heels in and stopped to get the picture that I wanted, but didn't want to be "that girl" that everyone had to stop and wait for. My inexperience with dirt was enough to make me err on the side of caution, so I was pleased when on day one, I heard someone say "this isn't going to be a race"....I guess it's all a matter of perspective??? :huh We had ridden with a few members of the group prior to the trip, and I enjoyed meeting the one's I didn't know. My s/o always has a way of making me smile even in the most stressful or frustrating of circumstances (I think he would agree that it wasn't so easy this trip). I did find out that I actually like to camp.....and can break down the tent and pack everything up and have it loaded on my bike pretty quickly....shocking! So there are some things on the plus side.
    Eddie & I are heading back to Canada this year, for my grandmothers' 86th birthday. Last year we routed through Niagara Falls, Toronto, Montreal, NYC (wish I had seen your report before then....we were completely LOST in that big metropolis!), Washington DC, and then back home. It was a blast, just the two of us. Comparing that trip with our recent TAT trip, I know prefer just the two of us riding together HANDS DOWN. I can always relate to your descriptions of the dynamics between you & LDF......very similar to mine & Eddie's. So please...keep writing...and I'll be in line with everyone else when you release volume 1, Mobius I :thumb
  18. Vixen

    Vixen Been here awhile

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    :clap I get a personal response from LDF!!! :clap

    Thank you for your words of encouragement and advice...that means a lot to me. I too had little dirt experience going into this trip...and I'm not one to push my limits. Totalled out a streetbike a few years back and learned that I don't heal so quickly :eek1 Riding the TAT should be handled completely different than riding at your local ORV track....but that's just my opinion, and everyone has different limits, levels of experiences and perspectives on what "safe" is. I just didn't expect some to be so far on the opposite end of the spectrum. Call it my own naivity :huh

    For sure we will one day take another journey on the TAT (as a duo), picking up where we left off. I think we may be able to do the TN section again this year because it's fairly close for us....and the TN section was probably my favorite although Ark ran a really close second.


    Thanks again LDF....I thought of you many times during this trip, and knowing that you had made this trek before me gave me confidence in knowing that I could do it to. It was an honor to follow in your tracks :thumb
  19. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    I'm shooting with the olympus 1030sw

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    shockproof, waterproof, nice zoom/wide-angle. I'm not thrilled with the software, nor the low-light shooting, but I prioritize reliability / durability, and this baby's hard to beat. Literally. It's taken me a while to figure out what setting works best for shooting while moving, and I tried to bump the zoom off the widest angle setting when I was shooting, 'cause it's just too wide, and when I'd review the photos it didn't look anything like what I remembered. LDF is shooting with the discontinued Fuji Finepix F-30.

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    It has the supersensitive low light whatchamacallit, but the camera is a bit delicate. We (I)'ve had to take it in for service almost after every big trip we take it on, this time is no exception, as I see the left side of most of her shots is blurry, and when I looked at the lens, it appears clean. :baldy

    Someone asked about the chairs we had on Mobius I & II. They were BMW freebie give-away's, so I don't know where to buy them. Steel framed, pretty heavy, and too large to fit in the Wolfman duffel we carry on the tail racks. The canvas was starting to thin out and fray at the grommets on the seat, and I was afraid they were going to tear, even though Leo and I sewed reinforcements after the last trip. So we upgraded to Kermits, left the BMW cheapies in Flagstaff with my bro, and haven't looked back.

    The lightest camp-seating solution also happens to be the least expensive... just sit on the ground. Kermits aren't necessarily the first piece of equipment I'd buy, the price certainly puts them in the luxury dept. But for a uncompromising, durable, light-weight, small-packing, reliable, field-serviceable, comfortable camp chair, there simply is none better.
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  20. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    As we munched on our complimentary "Big Breakfasts",

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    I posted an update to this thread, and we reviewed the route for today.

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