The monster Monster thread! (formerly Why not a Monster)

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by JustKip, Nov 29, 2012.

  1. fishheadAZ

    fishheadAZ SV haver

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    Easiest is the front to a 14 as you won't need a new chain. Best is debatable. Rear up two or three teeth will net about the same change in gearing, but will need a longer chain. Most do the front. The only potential negative I've heard is that doing the front forces the chain around the smaller diameter so could increase wear. Lots have done it though and I haven't heard of any issues. Good luck and nice bike!
  2. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds I'm alive.

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    We're looking for a similar bike, with ABS. Something with a few things taken off for weight reduction and a lower seat. We'll see what comes up. Most of the additions she wants aren't that pricey.
  3. victor441

    victor441 Long timer

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    Going from 15 to 14 works great on most Ducatis but is a BAD idea on a few, I found out the hard way on my M800. The rear sprocket was 42t (14x3) and the chain had 102 (34x3) links and these combined w/ a 14t cog caused noise, vibration, and rapid wear as the repeat chain/cog contact number per revolutions was low. I eventually figured it out and went to 15/44/104 which worked much better. Anyway, it is easy to check out various combinations at http://www.gearingcommander.com/
    some of mine are below for 15/42/102, 14/42/102, and 15/44/104 also a photo of the abnormally worn cog from the bad combination

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  4. BMW-K

    BMW-K F800GS FTW!

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    My Monster EVO is just over a year old (Dec. 24, 2011) and currently has 10,500 on her. She's cleared an SS1k in February 2012, ran up and down Cali a few times on vacation and is just about to turn her first track day.

    No question, it's a rewarding, entertaining and highly engaging ride. I love the wind in the face...the clean air...the simplicity of that thumping bike.

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    Good times.
  5. jerdog53

    jerdog53 Crop Dusting Everywhere

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  6. BobPS

    BobPS Been here awhile

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    That was also my impression after my first ride. It feels like once I sit on it, the bike disappear, and it feels like I can steer it to any direction simply just by thinking about it. Lane splitting and filtering through heavy traffic is really easy :D
  7. fifthcircle

    fifthcircle Beer Knurd

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    Gearing, thanks fella's! The gearing ratio thing is something I really should learn a little more about. I know how it all works, I just have not really learned how to manipulate the numbers.

    I'm going to wait until I get some miles on it to decide if I feel the need to change the gearing. At minimum, I'll wait until after break in.
    My good buddy with a 1098 offered his 14T front sprocket if I want it. He tried it and ended up switched back. His advice was "you don't HAVE to ride in 6th gear" :lol3 Love that guy!
  8. PhilB

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    There are two main factors -- you want the ratio that suits you, and you need the two sprockets not to have common factors (e.g. both divisible by 5, etc.), as that causes the same chain links to hit the same sprocket teeth often, and makes wear uneven and higher.

    Looking at how and where you ride matters. For most people, the Monster is an urban or local twisty-road bike, and gearing down helps with low speed tractability. I, OTOH, always did a lot of highway work and touring out in the big West, so I actually regeared it the other way. Mine was 15/39 stock, and I went to 15/37 with my first sprocket change and have stayed with that since. Now that I'm in NH, and things are closer together on smaller roads, I may re-assess that when I next need new sprockets.

    PhilB
  9. fifthcircle

    fifthcircle Beer Knurd

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    I can't imagine needing taller gearing. Unless the engine (computer) gets smoother at low rpm with time. Lots of shudder below 3500rpm. So basically 6th gear isn't needed if staying near the speed limit. (That's gonna be hard to do!) :D


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  10. BMW-K

    BMW-K F800GS FTW!

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    Gearing: I'm running the 14t. front sprocket - it's sad that the bike just didn't come with the 14 from the start. It's much, much happier and 6th gear is actually useable on the freeway.

    As an aside, I'm running a flashed chip, Arrow exhaust, open air box, and no flapper and the bike is still a bit gumbly below 3500 rpms. I may at some point drop in a power commander but as of now I can't be bothered. The bike fuels great from 4k on and that's enough for me.

    I'm due for my first track day on this bike at Fontana this weekend. Good times! I've a set of Metzler M5's on the bike and they feel really quite good. They really slow the handling down but then again the Monster can be downright twitchy with the wrong tires (Pilot Power Pures really got it twitchy by my standards).
  11. PhilB

    PhilB Long timer

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    Well, mine is long before computers and all that. Carburetors and mechanical bits for me; just enough electronics to spark the plugs, and run the lights and starter.

    I like the Metzelers as well. I run an M5 on the front, but a Z8 on the rear for better longevity without much sacrifice of traction or safety.

    PhilB
  12. BMW-K

    BMW-K F800GS FTW!

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    Phil, no doubt on the Z8 rear. I'm planning a tour this summer and will likely spoon a set of Z8's on for the duration.

    Today though (*well, tomorrow actually) I have a track day to go play with out in Fontana. The M5's are definitely going to get a workout.

    That is, if the track is dry enough out...Otherwise I'm prolly not going to get past the "2" on the tire... :lol3
  13. BMW-K

    BMW-K F800GS FTW!

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    Good day at the track! I managed to turn a 1:56 at the Fontana AMA track (2.3 miles) - upper mid-pack of the mid group.

    Quite respectable given that I haven't done a track day on this bike before, I'm on tires that I haven't ever run before, and I've never actually run this track before either.

    I managed to "juuuuust" hit the limiter in 6th on the front straight. No idea what that equates to - I'm guessing around 135?

    Anyway, goooood times. :clap:clap:clap
  14. fifthcircle

    fifthcircle Beer Knurd

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    Sweeeeeet! Stock gearing?

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  15. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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  16. BMW-K

    BMW-K F800GS FTW!

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    -1 front. :evil

    If I got the drive out of the last corner I could take 600's on the straight and I was, relative to my group, quicker handling all the way around.

    Good times!
  17. BMW-K

    BMW-K F800GS FTW!

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  18. corndog67

    corndog67 Banned

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    Hey guys, check this out. I've got an 01 S4, the 916 powered one. It's for sale in the classifieds, so far, I've had one guy leave his deposit and not buy the bike, didn't even look at it. I've had more than 6 people make me offers that I've accepted, that never showed up at my house. I had a guy come, buy it, and start griping about the oil leak, which I've openly told everyone about in the ad, so I gave him his money back. It's going into the shop tomorrow, to get the leak sorted.

    Now you Monster guys know that a cherry S4 goes for anywhere from $5000-$7500. A real cherry. Mine is not a cherry bike. And I'll let it go for $3000. It is a great runner though, and has never let me down, I've owned it for 5 1/2 years. You guys all know this bike is a bunch faster than any of the air cooled ones. Even the 1100.

    I posted this here because you Monster guys congregate here. Even if you don't want one for your everyday ride (it was mine for 4 years), the deal is good enough to have it as a spare bike anyway.
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    To tell you the truth, the guy I gave the money back to, didn't know what he was getting. The estimate to fix the oil leak is $80. I was quite surprised by that, I was expecting $300 or more. But for the money, this is a lot of bike.

    Someone come and get it.
  19. Emperor Norton

    Emperor Norton Kilroy was here

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    Its potential purchasers like you describe above that make me happier to just trade a bike in at the dealer rather than wasting my time with the crapshoot of private party sales.
  20. corndog67

    corndog67 Banned

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    But JoeDuck, I don't want to buy a bike at a dealer, I'd rather find something different (and I don't know what just yet, I've got my 950 Supermoto all good to go), and find something nearly new, but let someone else take that 30, 40, or 50% depreciation hit than me. Besides, I bought an XR75 last weekend, I've wanted one for at least 35 years, now I have one, and I'm obsessing on hot rod Honda minibike parts.

    Right now, I've got 2 guys that swear they are serious. But until they are standing in my driveway, I'm not counting on anything.