The Montesa Cota 315 R Thread...

Discussion in 'Trials' started by Garthe, Jul 19, 2009.

  1. Choicecut

    Choicecut Lean, Tender and Juicy.

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    I can chime in on this a little. I picked up a 2000 315 R a few months ago for the same price range. I chose the 315R because it seems to be well liked and is built pretty solid, plus I could get one in the price range I was looking for. I haven't done much but clean the carb and make minor adjustments here and there. Just slapped a new set of Dunlops on it today. I really like the bike and think it was a solid purchase for a first trials bike. I rode my first event a couple weeks ago and had a blast with it. Now I have a bug and want a vintage one too so I can ride both vintage and modern! :rofl

    I really like trials because I can have fun and not completely wreck my body or kill myself. I also like how it is a competitive sport, but doesn't seem to have the string of douchenozzles that other types of motorsports have. I tried to get back into dirt a few years ago and snagged a KTM 520. Went right back to "teenager stupid" and figured I needed to try something a little more fitting before I tore something up really good. Shit just doesn't heal like it used to. I suppose it doesn't help that I am fat and out of shape though. :D

    I think you would be really happy with it if it isn't a complete pile of sheeite.
  2. Twin-shocker

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    Beta has suffered from ignition problems for many years, while other than general wear and tear issues, the 315R has no major problem areas.

    However as with any older bike parts can be a problem, and plastics are pretty much unavailable for the 315R.
  3. lineaway

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    I`ve personally logged thousands of hours on Beta`s since I bought an 89 tr34 in 1990. Never any ignition issues. I also was a dealer for over ten years and never an issue. I have seen a few in that last few years and they were on ten year old bikes. I think the UK has more problems due with moisture. The 315 had some faults, but I prefer not to rag on another brand. (Unless it`s the Gasser PRooBlem models!!)
  4. Twin-shocker

    Twin-shocker Long timer

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    When Dougie Lampkin was riding Beta, in one year he failed to finish both the SSDT and the Scott due to ignition problems. Notably Beta is the only make that suffers from these problems on a regular basis here in the UK.

    Moisture may well have something to do with the failures being more common in the UK, but seems to me a trials bike with an ignition which fails when its exposed to moisture is about as much use as a politician!
  5. ridenm

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    I bought a '99 Montesa nearly a decade ago to replace my '95 Beta Techno. I paid $2500 for a nice clean bike only ridden occasionally by a Novice in our club or his wife. I fit it with a larger-than-stock sprocket (44 I think, without going out to the garage) and a spark arrestor/silencer I got second-hand from another club member along with a box of junk from His Montesa expert days. So far the only problem I have had with the bike is the cushion for the float bowl jet needle. The jet would hang on the old rubber and starve the bike for fuel. I replaced the jet but occasionally have the problem still which I attribute to ethanol gas. If I forget to turn off the fuel before a long down-time period, say weeks or more, I have to drop the float bowl and clean the float and pilot jets to get the bike running again.

    I chose the Montesa because it fit me better than the Betas I rode. The rear brake pedal position on the Techno was better suited to someone wearing a size 10 boot or bigger, which compromised my learning curve on big downs and proper turning technique. I never had any ignition problems with the Techno but I did have to replace the voltage regulator (provides juice to the fan) with one I found at Radio Shack and I battled chronically loose footpeg mounts. The Techno also suffered from sticky clutch syndrome regardless of the oil I chose, a problem the Montesa has to a much lesser degree especially if you can get the exotic ELF oil HRC calls out.

    I shied away from the Gassers when I replaced the Beta because I'd seen too many among our club members with quality control problems, especially gearbox issues. The Shercos at that time seemed good but all the used ones were coming from our upper class riders who had hammered them. The Montesa featured Japanese build quality which is reassuring for a bike that gets as little maintenance as I give it. Nothing turns as well as a Beta, in my limited experience, but you have to have big enough feet for it.

    Again, this is my experience and YMMV.
  6. batoutoflahonda

    batoutoflahonda Long timer

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    Way back I went to the World Rounds at Donner CA. Was so impressed I bought an Aprilia climber. Broke it every time I rode it, which was good, kept me from killing myself on it. Cracked my helmet at one point. Also lead me to believe that the Italians know nothing about metallurgy, surely, I was not a hack on two wheels. I did get a chance to ride with some guys from PITS who were setting up a course at Carnegie. They drug me all over that place. Wore me the heck out as I was a guinea pig for the novice sections. They kept telling me to quit riding it like a dirt bike. I did get a chance to ride their Gas Gas, Beta, and Montesa bikes. Of the three I liked the Montesa the best.

    So years later I pick this up the other day. The plan is to plate it using WA new laws and explore the mountains around my place, and do some local events. So been out trying to do wheelies. Same rings true today as it did then. Get frustrated and go ride it like a dirt bike. Sure the neighbors are looking out their windows going WTF? Has he lost it? Why is just jumping up and down on that motorcycle?

    Any way. Pretty stoked. Joining Puget Sound Trialers and looking forward to learning some civility on two wheels.



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  7. Rapid Dog

    Rapid Dog bikes, booze, broads...

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  8. Vanilla Face

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    My first trials bike in 5 years, I previously owned a 2002 315R 10 years ago which I sold for a 280 Gas Gas TXT Pro as I was getting into the big steps and trick riding. Fast forward a decade and a restart in the sport I am now more interested in riding natural terrain and club trials with the enforced non stop rules. So, a 315R seemed a perfect step back into trials.

    This is a 2000 model but wearing 2004 mudguards.

    Bought on eBay after several beers and shipped here to the Isle of Man I was pleased to find it has had a very easy life.

    Time to change that ; )

    Less hop and splat than my last bike ('06 Gasser set up for a UK sponsored rider) but great for riding natural sections. The bike is plenty capable and I won my 1st trial in ten years on my first outing on it. So, some rusty old magic in both rider and machine!

    I find the bars too low and am getting backache from riding it. Should I buy riser bars or get some spacers in there?

    Next to address will be the plastics/colouring.

    Torn between recreating a 1996 Marc Colomer prototype 315R look, the black '99 year look (my favourite) or going a little 4RT Repsol on it.

    Has anyone fitted the Aktiv reeds to the carb and noticed a difference?
  9. Vanilla Face

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    This is pretty awesome I think
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  11. BEEF706

    BEEF706 King of the dumb dab

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    I think so too:drif
  12. motorcyclemark

    motorcyclemark Been here awhile

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    Wow, best looking one I have ever seen.
  13. r2wtrials

    r2wtrials Been here awhile

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    I took this photo at the SSDT last week ... they are still being used to good effect..

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  14. GrayEagleRider

    GrayEagleRider Been here awhile

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    Cool, how does the 4RT fender match up to the 315R?
  15. Brewtus

    Brewtus Buffoonery, Inc.

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    Oh......Mygawd!!! :tb



    Now THAT is pretty fu*kin cool!!! :thumb :thumb :thumb :bow :clap :freaky



    Good eye! :evil
  16. Vanilla Face

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  17. sceep

    sceep Been here awhile

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    Which one of you Albuquerque inmates sold my dad this one last week?
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    Holy fun-machine! Spent about 10 hours on it at cedro peak this past weekend and I LOVE it. If I could get in good enough shape to ride it more than 30 minutes at a time without needing a break to sit down i might actually consider selling the husqy and just using this for the singletrack.
  18. Brewtus

    Brewtus Buffoonery, Inc.

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    Good question. I've no idea. Something about that coil protector looks familiar but.......

    Lineaway?? :ear
  19. Bounder

    Bounder ExternallyDisplaced

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    Just about to join the ranks of 315R owners.
    I have always been interested in Trials and recently started looking at a few on the local sales sites.
    Maybe age does that to you? Anyway a guy I know mentioned that he had a Montesa 315r for sale for €400 which seemed to be a pretty good price.
    I went and rode it, it needs some TLC foot controls and pegs are pretty rusty but the bike started and ran OK with no weird noises.
    I'll be buying it later today and post up some pics and maybe looking for some tips.
  20. BikePilot

    BikePilot Long timer

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    Great! Sure can't beat that price. A few weekends in the garage and you will have it all spiffed up and ready to go.