Good thread. When I'm looking at a prospective new purchase,apart from checking what it'd be like for servicing,and how crapped up/easy to clean it would be after bad weather rides,a major factor for me is how easy it would be to carry stuff on it. You know,not necessarily outsize loads,but simple day to day stuff like the bag I take to work,or some light groceries,or my camping gear for rallies. Most motorcycles fail miserably on these criteria....some you can't even carry a pint of milk on,or a home from work chip shop meal...unless you look at touring type barges. And I've pretty much lost interest in motorbikes nowadays anyway. My 650 Burgman ticks all the boxes for me. Huge underseat stowage area plus three 'gloveboxes'. Add in a desire to not walk about carrying my helmet and bike jacket on warm days and the Burgie wins again,especially with a topbox added. My 'workaday' Vespa PX does fine with its bag hook and front and rear rack luggage racks that I added. If I had a dog,there's my P200 sidecar outfit or my Urals.