The MotionX on the iPhone Thread

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by basketcase, Nov 12, 2011.

  1. spongebobnopants

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  2. edtheslowrider

    edtheslowrider Been here awhile

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    I'll add to this thread, I used my now inactive iPhone4s on a 450 mi custom track using motionX (preloaded the maps) and it was so nice to be free of the annoying messages I used to get when this was my actual phone (no data signal etc etc BFD). Never once did a pop up appear.
    Also nice to not have my real phone out on the bars (ram mount X-cradle thingy).
    Seems like there might be some more sophisticated apps out there but still loving this $.99 app, really does the job for me.

    If I had one complaint, the motionX Road maps on 14X zoom (gives about 1/2 mile look ahead) some small roads have very faint contrast and are difficult to see (other map types available have proven to be less reliable). Also the route#'s or road names overllay the actual road and are covered by my intended track, somewhat maddening (I write down route changes as a backup). OK that's two complaints but still love the capabilities.
  3. mpatch

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    If you send suggestions to motionx they can/ will make changes if enough people do it.
  4. jeepster33

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    I have tried MotionX only once so far and it worked pretty good. I pre-loaded the maps also and I think I included the 15x zoom so the roads/names were a little more legible but they aren't the easiest to see.

    Later, I saw where in addition to following a Track, you can also navigate to a waypoint. I was curious if you tried this and if it helps at all. It looks like it will do a mileage countdown to the waypoint for navigation.
  5. Vacman

    Vacman Some call me...Tim?

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    Instead of emailing the tracks just create a google drive account (or Dropbox, etc.) then you can just save to google drive from any computer, open google drive on your phone and then open with motionX. Import and you're done. Plus if you want to share tracks you just share your google drive folder and they have access to all your tracks.

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  6. atwater1

    atwater1 perpetually lost.

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    I thought I'd bring up this issue again. I contacted MotionX Support via email to see if there was anything I could change to make my GPS run more smoothly. They responded very quickly and gave me some good information that I thought could be useful to others here...meaing other people smarter than myself. :norton




    It looks to me like the "jumpy" maps are because my position is only getting updated at best every 700 milliseconds. The big question to me is whether or not the 700 milliseconds is limited by the iPhone hardware, or the MotionX software. From the above email, it seems as though the iPhone only gives out the updated position every 700 milliseconds, or less if speeds are lower.

    However, I am confused because when I am navigating in google maps, my position is updated continuously, which makes for very smooth map display. I wonder if google maps does extra interpolating for location between actual iPhone location points.

    I wish I was smarter about this stuff. Thinking about it makes my head hurt. :lol3



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  7. Vacman

    Vacman Some call me...Tim?

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    Actually I thought about your post this weekend when I zoomed all the way in while riding. It kind of skips from point to point. This was with clear overhead and phone mounted on my bars. Zooming out 1 notch completely eliminated it.

    I think if you're moving too fast for it when you're zoomed in that far the software just can't render everything quickly enough. It still captured all my tracks.
  8. atwater1

    atwater1 perpetually lost.

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    That's a good point. Last time I used it I think I was at zoom level 14.5. Maybe that is just zoomed in too far. Next time I'll zoom out some and see what that does.


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  9. NeptuneTriton

    NeptuneTriton Been here awhile

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    Yes, this is a problem with the Motion X software and not the iPhone itself. I've been experimenting with it out on the trails and it was super annoying. The position arrow would lurch along instead of moving steadily in the direction of travel. In addition, the GPS signal would be lost frequently leaving the red spinning globe icon and the "?" over the arrow. It also seemed to have accuracy issues, with the position icon often floating way outside the track or route.

    My favorite GPS app (GAIA GPS) doesn't do any of that. The map rotates fluidly, the arrow tracks smoothly along the line of travel, I never lost the GPS signal, and the positional arrows tracks within a few feet of any given track or route. Perfect. I tried them both side by side on different devices mounted to the bike and over and over again the same results. So, no more Motion X for me, it's all Gaia now.
  10. 1911fan

    1911fan Master of the Obvious

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    Yah, no shit. We were riding section 5 of the WABDR and it led us around in circles for several hours, giving false readings that we were on or off the correct track. At one point we backtracked a ways through some pretty bad moondust, only to meet up with fellow riders who told us we were really on the track, we had to ride back uphill through the crap. Later, the marker kept floating outside the track, so we would ride several miles and then turn around, retrace our steps back to the last intersection, then ride several miles only to have MotionX tell us we were off the track again....Repeat until you realized you've burned several hours and now don't have time to finish the leg. Ruined the day- sweaty, mad, and low on gas we headed out to the nearest town mid-afternoon and slabbed home.
    Dammit.

    GAIA GPS, my next stop.


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  11. edtheslowrider

    edtheslowrider Been here awhile

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    Well I'm no motionX expert but I've used it for numerous on road trips. It has it's limitations but I still love it for it's flexibility and simplicity.
    o Switch google maps to 'classic' version - I was unable to convert the map from default version (thanks to an inmate here for the tip).
    o download maps for offline use is for area you select and magnifications you select. Definitely dry run to figure out your optimal magnifiaction. 14X gives me ~1/2 mile heads up for a turn and still decent enough resolution to pick the correct street in town. 15X might be better but turns come up awful fast).
    o I use the motionX map, but I don't need the topo info.
    o tracks, not routes. Trackpoints.
    Enjoy your trip.
    I think other apps might have surpassed motionX for features but I'm faithful to it.
  12. PBOB

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    Noob to motionx...
    Trying to wrap my head around all this info.
    But what I want to know is....

    With motionx:
    1. Do I have access to entire map of USA even without cell signal?
    - or do I have to save each area?....
    2. If I don't have cell signal, does app still pick up my coordinates?
    3. Can I load gpx file from my computer?
    4. Do I just email the file to myself and just open it or do I have to send it to motionx app some way?

    I ask this because, I want a map of USA that doesn't constantly draw cell data. But is always showing my coordinates so I can follow my load gpx given to me by another rider. Lastly, when I do go exploring if like to record or drop pin and save my coordinates so I can explore area again.

    Motionx fit this, or do I need to look into another one?
    Someone mentioned "scenic map" and "you need a map" Ect blah blah....

    Just wanting to clarify some things before I try one this weekend.
    Thx all
  13. Shunpiker Dan

    Shunpiker Dan Been here awhile

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    I can answer some of your questions

    1. Do I have access to entire map of USA even without cell signal?
    - or do I have to save each area?....
    - Not sure of the best way for you to get the entire US. You have access to the entire US while your phone has Internet access. If you will be exploring an area that may not have cell signal, you need to download that area beforehand while your phone is connected. Not sure if it is possible to download the entire US to your phone.

    2. If I don't have cell signal, does app still pick up my coordinates?
    Yes. Your phone doesn't rely on a cell signal for GPS coordinates so MotionX has that data as long as it is able to receive GPS Sat signals.

    3. Can I load gpx file from my computer? Yes
    4. Do I just email the file to myself and just open it or do I have to send it to motionx app some way?
    Yes. Just email it to your personal email that you access on your phone. Open the file on your phone and you should get the option to open it in MotionX.
  14. PBOB

    PBOB MOTO NUT

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    thank u !
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    Please bear with me on this.....

    I've spent most of the day reading this and other threads about using an iphone for GPS. I had several very annoying experiences this past week while using my Garmin Nuvi 1490T to navigate around the Deals Gap/Wolf Pen Gap/BRP region. We actually missed out on an entire leg of our planned route because the Garmin went "weird" with the route and took us too far off our intended course to turn around.

    Anyway - with that being said, I resigned myself to perhaps spending more money on a "real" motorcycle GPS, but not sure if I wont have the same problem, lol. So it is looking like maybe I need to explore the iphone thing farther. I see a LOT of information here (overload for me, lol) and hope I can get some good advice.

    A little background first:

    I just got an iphone4, and I'm one of the 1% owners that use it on a "pay-as-you-go" monthly plan. That means I do NOT have data, just Wi-Fi. Until now, I just wanted an ipod (stream music into my Sena) and something that I could make a phone call, I'm not into being married to my phone (no offense intended to those that like that arrangement). :D This means I am NOT iphone-savy, lol.

    Anyway, currently, I plot out my route on MapQuest and use "route stops" before and after intersections to hopefully tie down the route so it does not jump to the quickest or shortest option. Routes are always on paved roads and twisty, and usually 250-350 miles long involving several road changes that form a loop. This route gets exported to the Garmin the normal "Send to Garmin" way.

    Is this MotionX going to fulfill the above use requirements better than the Garmin Nuvi, or is there a better app I should look into? Or, despite cost, is a Zumo going to be a better fit for me? One thing to keep in mind - I need the screen to be readable without my reading glasses, the Nuvi is fine. Any app that I run on the iphone will need to be able to be zoomed up so I can read it as well, and stay zoomed up if it scrolls across the screen while riding. Thanks guys!
  16. Shunpiker Dan

    Shunpiker Dan Been here awhile

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    If you want to use your iPhone, I would suggest you look into using CoPilot or Navigon app. Both of these let you download all or large amounts of map data to your phone so you don't need rely on a data connection while your out riding, MotionX lets you download some data but not as well as the other two. Check out this thread if you haven't already: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=874100
  17. scootertrog

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    Thanks for the advice. I downloaded the base CoPilot app/program and will give it a couple tests. Just my minimal amount of time perusing through it, it looks promising. For now, I'll try laying out the routes on the phone for starters and see if the routes stay true to course. If that works out, then I'll purchase the "Live" version to get the voice navigation feature. If it works like I hope - it will save me a lot of grief and $. :clap
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    Hello, everyone! I have MotionX on an IPhone 4 and it works great. My question is, I'm planning on doing some tracks that I would like to share on Adv. I can't figure out how to do it. Can someone help me?
  19. Jeff@TheQuadShop

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    Email the tracks to your PC then attach them to your thread here on ADV as a GPX file. I do this quite often.
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    Thanks a lot, I will try it.