The NC700x.......

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by jut8, Mar 20, 2017.

  1. jut8

    jut8 Adventurer

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    So like most others, I have owned quite a few bikes over the years, some the better ones I remember owning, the others ones, when brought up in conversation, I say in my head "oh yeah, i owned one of those."


    So my current garage setup is a roadstar warrior 1700 and a husaberg 390 that I have plated. I love the warrior, and when it came out, i was in high school, and told myself the day I get a real job and can afford it, I am buying one....it took a little longer than anticipated because i refuse to finance "toys", but I made it happen in 2008, and I loved that bike. Now it seems a bit in-practical for my needs. Dont get me wrong, i love running it out on the highway, and just going out for ride on it, its pretty awesome but lack of storage, not wanting to take it out if there is a chance of rain, or a chance i might have to run on a dirt or gravel road limits me from riding as much as i like, and I find myself riding it less and less, and I see the value of the dual sport and ADV bike more and more.


    So I started looking around at all the great options that were out there. The younger me would have jumped right into looking at the big bikes like a big bore ktm, vstrom1000 or things like that, however what I have been finding lately is that I actually am enjoying the smaller bore bikes more and more over here in southwestern PA.


    So that brings me to the NC700x. I have always been a Honda fan, but I am not the type of guy that is one brand loyal. I saw the NC700x, and I really like the styling of it, the huge storage case up front seem like a great idea, and has enough storage space for my day to day adventures, and if needed a set of side racks with storage could be added for longer trips. I also have a few dealers that are having some real attractive pricing on them.


    My concerns with it are simple, but I am not sure if they are easy fixes or even fixable. The big complaint I hear is lack of power. I don’t need the bike to be a powerhouse, but I do like to smile to get big when I roll on the throttle. Also there does not seem to be a lot of aftermarket support for the bike. I was just wondering why. Can you squeeze a few more ponies out of this bike, or is it just not worth trying.


    I had a Kawi ER6n for a quick minute, and I really enjoyed the P-twin engine, so I thought I would enjoy the Honda, I know the p-twins are know for being beginner friendly, but for some reason, I really enjoyed the power delivery of it, and it had enough to make me happy…..is it just guys on big bikes that say the 700x is a dog, or is it really that boring?


    Since I liked the er6n engine so much, another obvious choice is the Verysys, I just like the Honda looks and bike layout a bit better. I can jump onto the honda and not have the added expense of luggage right away. Another thought is possibly a wee-strom, I had an SV650 back in the day, it was great too, but for some reason, the styling on it doesn’t do it for me.


    Any one I buy will be used for day to day commuting, and I will probably swap the tires out for something a bit more aggressive so if/when I end up on dirt roads, it will be a bit more comfortable.


    Anyone have any words of wisdom, thoughts or suggestions about the NC? Anyone go from a cruiser like my warrior to an ADV style bike and regret it? The model of the NC that is on sale currently has the DCT tranny, I am not opposed to it or the manual, I could live with either, and abs is not currently a deal breaker for me. I have not owned a bike with ABS yet, so I am not spoiled by it, haha. Here is a photo of my beloved warrior:

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  2. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    Hello

    I really like the NC also.

    Most NC700X Owners will tell you there is no aftermarket options because Honda got it right the first time.
    I kind of agree. But I'd rather have a 745cc trim.


    If you are even remotely interested in getting more power and stuff, just go 2015+ Versys.
    Your not really grasping the New Concept here.
    A utilitarian transpo with excellent dealer support and super easy Maintenance up keep.
    Ohh, and then there is the 75+mpg. If fuel economy is not one of the top three things you love about the engine, go Versys.

    Good luck.
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  3. Motosapian

    Motosapian Been here awhile

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    IIRC, the motor has a bit of "stroke". Gives it nice responsiveness pulling away. You can also get it with the DCT, which I would definately do. To top it off, there are unsold units all over the place looking for buyers.
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  4. Mac Ka

    Mac Ka just a guy on a bike ..

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    I might be misunderstanding something, or mis-read something else but the NC has moved on twice since being the 700X. It has more power and torque than my XT660Z Tenere, (which wasn't officially sold in America, but much sought after), and delivers more m.p.g. Sadly though, the NC is not an adventure bike because its suspension travel and set up just won't let it do 'adventure' but will be fine on fire trails with the correct tyres.
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    Spookily, I'm looking to sell my Tenere for a 2017 NC750X because I've admitted I just don't ride off road enough but love the sedate riding position and even more spookily would also love a Warrior or a Suzuki M1800..I'd have yours tomorrow but no deals cuz I live in Portugal.
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    Here's a web pic of the new NCX
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  5. LostViking

    LostViking Long timer

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    I have been oggling this bike a bit lately. I sat on one of the first ones when the debuted out in Colorado. I liked it then. The updates and new colors make it even more appealing.

    I'm getting older and slower. But I ride my bike from snow to snow. The frunk would go a long ways as a grocery getter..


    The first and only red Honda I ever owned was a 1974 Trail 70. If the NC is half as tough. I'm sure we would get along just fine. I took that bike a lot of places it wasn't supposed to go too.
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  6. CrStep

    CrStep Been here awhile

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    I owned a DCT version and I did enjoy it. It has enough power for most riding situations (and does take off quickly), but the motor takes getting used to because of its low revs. It is the kind of bike that can be ridden hard if you want to, and is good in the twisties, but is also a relaxing type of bike for cruising around and ultra practical. There are people who have taken it off road successfully with the right accessories. It's got quite a devoted following online.
    I think it's the kind of bike that can check a lot of boxes for people who feel that it's more about the rider and the riding experience and less about the machine. A used one that is fully farkled out will take someone a lot of places for fairly little investment.

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  7. Mac Ka

    Mac Ka just a guy on a bike ..

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    I hear a lot about the short rev range but I had a CB1300S which rev'd out at 8500 and quickly too, which is pretty short for a large 4 cylinder. I know you guys don't do diesel cars which are, sadly, all the thing in Europe but my BMW 330d is fairly quick once you've got used to short shifting through the gears early. But then again the NCX isn't really about keeping up. It's more about enjoying 'your' ride in 'your' time at 'your' pace.
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    Here's a shot of my CB13 that I would also swap for an NCX, if I had it today.
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  8. Mac Ka

    Mac Ka just a guy on a bike ..

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    can I ask.....if you lowered the gearing ratio by 2 teeth on the rear sprocket, just how quick was the gear changing on what is already a very short rev ranged engine? I'm probably wrong, but it must have been like rapid firing a Glock 9mm to empty its mag. I only ask because I'm in the market for one and improvements would be welcome.
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  9. motoretro

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    The NC700X interests me also although I really wish the US would receive the 750 version. Finding one on the floor is next to impossible in my area, I've been to (5) dealers and not only do they not have a NC700X, there's no signs of a Africa Twin either. Walking into a dealership today is strange, not only don't they carry a full line, when you ask about a specific model, they look at you and ask what's that? Really? What's really strange is dealers are so far apart, you would think they would carry a full line since they're the only game in town. My county used to have (8) MC dealerships, not a one now. I did find a dealer who has a NC coming in, left my number, we'll see if they call....

    *Well it's a month later and no call.......I just checked their inventory OL and YES, it's listed as "in stock". I've already driven 100 miles to look at a bike they listed as "in stock" and it was sold weeks prior and now I'm suppose to do the trip again to look at a bike also listed as "in stock", a bike the Sales manager stated he would call me as soon as it was on the ground. Supplied my number, name and did this in person, no call.
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  10. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    Where are you at?

    I thing there is a pre 2016 model in Bristol, VA. Brand new

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    motoretro Been here awhile

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  12. jut8

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    All good info guys, thank you very much. I would love to try one out and ride one, but that will probably be hard to do. I am in SW PA, but would not mind driving for the right one, a local dealer has a 2013 DCT leftover I am lusting over, but i have no problem with a newer one either.
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  13. fastring

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    I had a NC700X along with a 990 Adventure, then sold both when I bought a 1190ADVR. Another NC700x, this time a DCT, is now on my list for commuting. I really liked that bike, it is different for how the engine performs and it may not be your thing but I thought it was adequate. I took it over the 990 on road trips for work from San Diego to Phoenix a few times, it was a great road trip bike. Now, it would be my commuter for stop and go, would love DCT for that.
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  14. Mac Ka

    Mac Ka just a guy on a bike ..

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    Having said earlier I was interested in the new NC750X, I went to a local dealers today. Gotta say, I wasn't impressed by the low cost panels and parts and especially how easily the pearl white matt paint work marked on the display model, and yes my Arai did fit in the 'tank' but only just and after it got scratched putting it in that false tank. Might be put off for now.
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  15. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    :bow

    This guy gets the NC.

    If you own a 160hp KTMs, and want to buy your second NC, you get the NC.

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    I never understood why someone would complain about the engine rev limit. That's the whole idea behind the bike. I'm not sure if those Inmates do not know how to research bikes or are trolls.
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  16. dduelin

    dduelin Prone To Wander, Lord, I Feel It

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    Many riders complain about it after a demo ride or at least feel like it's not really an exciting engine for them and I get that. Most bikes signal the approach of the rev limit by trailing off power past a certain point and revving it past that point is counterproductive and this is apparent on many undersquare low revving long stroke engines that sign off by 3500 -4500 rpm. Revving them past peak power just makes more noise and vibration and they do better performance wise by short shifting at the top of their power curve. Many V twin cruisers are like this but my flat twin BMW R100 was similar. It had a redline of 7200 rpm but peak power came in around 5500 IIRC. It liked being shifted around 6000 and let you know. I really liked that bike.

    On the other hand the NC motor spins up freely and is pulling strong right up to it's redline of 6500 when the rev limiter cuts in. One gets little warning and abrupt is not too strong of a word for it. It has the torque of a motorcycle-typical 65-70 hp engine but when you go looking for the last 20 hp you bang into the reality of although it's got the torque of a 65 hp engine it's a 48 hp engine limited to 6500 rpm by the ECU. A Sportster or a metric cruiser is wheezing and straining to their redline and are plainly telling the rider to shift for Pete's sake.

    I've had two NC's myself. I bought a manual transmission 2012 when they first came stateside. I put about 30,000 miles on it then traded for a Triumph Tiger 800. That bike wasn't for me and I got back on an NC700X a year later this time a DCT version. As much as I liked the first NC the engine matches up really well to the DCT and I like the DCT version better.
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  17. mcmann

    mcmann Motorcycle ADV enthusiast

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    Good point. 5,400 RPM looks like a good shift point when going through the gears . . .

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  18. ex_MGB

    ex_MGB Been here awhile

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    I was torn between a S10 and a NC700X DCT until the Africa Twin came out which I got in DCT. I test drove a NC700X DCT and loved it, it's the reason I got DCT on the AT.
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  19. Motosapian

    Motosapian Been here awhile

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    The NC700 looks like a good bet for an aging riding community. Low seat height along with low center of gravity make for geriatric friendly handling. The DCT option is the icing on the cake. Hopefully that 750 will show up here.

    I think the DC tranny is the wave of the future and ready to be embraced by the mainstream.
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  20. LostViking

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    Hey, I resemble that remark!
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