The new guy - with a lot of questions

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Henrik01, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. Henrik01

    Henrik01 n00b

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    Hi guys,
    guess what. I just got my license.
    So now I'm looking to pick your brains for wonderful knowledge.

    I took my license because I'm dreaming of doing a cross country trip, with just me and the open road.
    but in order to do that, comes the questions.

    - what kinda bike should I get? its a long ride, so a rocket bike won't do I've been told. And ofc the fact also that I'm still new to riding, so it probably shouldn't be too wild.

    - I'm a exchange student, so I'm on a budget regarding buying a bike. So any clues where to look for a solid bike there can last the trip and not exceed 1.200$ ?

    - how cheap is an insurance ? (just an estimate)

    - and finally, are there any laws I should be aware off, when doing a cross country ride? ie. needing special permission from some states?
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  2. josjor

    josjor Long timer

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    The first part is way to open of a question. Guys have gone cross country on 100cc scooters. Others want a 1500cc barcalounger. I would want something of at least 500cc, preferably not a cruiser or crotchrocket. The dollar amount you're willing to spend is going to be the real limiting factor for you. You're going to have a helluva time finding something at that price that I would feel comfortable setting out on such a long journey and relying on.

    Cheap for liability for the bike. Maybe $100.00 for a year.

    If you get a license issued by any of the 50 states, you're good to go in all 50 states. You may need permits for some state and federal parks if you plan on visiting or camping there.
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  3. jalapenopete

    jalapenopete Adventurer

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    you might look in the "trip planning" thread for more information.
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  4. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    Good luck, sounds like a fun adventure.
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  5. Twilight Error

    Twilight Error Going nowhere slowly

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    A license from one state is good in all 50, as is insurance and the bike's registration. Some states require you to wear a helmet with the DOT sticker, some don't - if you plan on riding without, you'll have to do some research.

    As for the bike, you can get a late 80s UJM for about what you want to spend, but it will likely require some work to get it from one coast to the other. Are you mechanically inclined at all? You'll save boatloads of money doing your own work if you are.

    Basic liability is cheap, go for a barebones policy to cover your butt in the event of an accident.
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  6. DrLewall

    DrLewall The Human GPS

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    An 'inexperienced' rider turned loose to tour? :eek1

    okay..but you assume the risks!

    Might think about getting some experience by starting small and building on your skills riding local before you load up a bike and take off..but then, I'm not your babysitter..this is just free 'advice'..good luck anyhow.
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  7. HooliKen

    HooliKen Awesome is a flavor

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    Good Luck and have a Ball!
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  8. SxyRdr

    SxyRdr Been here awhile

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    My son just picked up an 04 KLR650 for $1800 (needs a little TLC). Full insurance with low deductibles costs us a whopping $75 a year.

    YMMV


    As for the other questions, any bike is capable of being a tourer. I toured on a Honda SuperHawk (VTR1000F) and on a Honda CBR1000RR. I will be touring on the CBR again next summer.

    However, obviously those bikes are out of your price range and out of your skill range.

    Does your budget leave room to buy gear/accessories? You'll need storage on your bike for your stuff and you'll need a decent selection of gear for a cross-country trip. For example, it was hot the day before we left for our Nova Scotia trip. But a tropical storm came in and it poured down rain on us for 3 days straight. It was a comfy temp when we got to NS and I wore my mesh jacket one day, but the very next day was cold and foggy, requiring me to actually wear my Gerbings heated gear. My husband's cross-country trip had him starting here on the east coast in hot weather but encountering a late spring snow storm as he tried to cross the Rockies.


    And I agree with DrLewall about taking some shorter trips to build up to a cross country trip. That's what we'll be doing with our son and his KLR. Even though he knows how to ride (been riding since he was 4) and has ridden all day on dirt bikes, we'll be doing a long weekend trip to introduce him to touring.
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    Kommando Long timer

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  10. Henrik01

    Henrik01 n00b

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    Thank you guys for all those wonderful responses :)

    I have been drive since I've been 13 on mopeds with 3 gears or more. But yes I think you are right, I should defiantly get some more experience before undertaking such an endeavor.


    Thx, honestly I was hoping to buy used gear as well, to save a few bucks there also.
    when doing a tour cross country, is it the possible to have a regular backpack on your back also?


    Thanks for those sticking notes,
    so far I've found these bike I'm considering.

    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/3299756813.html
    This one looks a lot like my old mope (suzuki samurai dm50). So I think this one would be easy enough to handle.

    http://martinsburg.craigslist.org/mcy/3260173498.html
    I have a friend who did a tour on a vulcan with great succes. so also considering this one.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271069232065&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123#ht_553wt_1165
    Finally I've found this one. The owner told me that it easily could last a trip like that. but honestly I have no idea.

    - Any advise on the 3 bikes that I've found so far?

    Good to know there might be a limit to the knife blade length. Because I was thinking of camping along the way, so a knife might very well come in handy regarding to some daily tasks. ie. cooking food.


    I took the MSF basic riding course. So hopefully they will accept that one in other states :)
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  11. HooliKen

    HooliKen Awesome is a flavor

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    Short disclaimer: I know some locals restrict the length of blade you carry on your person. It may be different if you have it stored with gear or is a fixed blade knife.
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  12. uraberg

    uraberg whosaberg?

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    Just to make sure you've understood this: You need to take the MSF certificate to the DMV, and get an endorsement on your drivers license to operate a motorcycle. The paperwork you got from the MSF course itself is not a license!

    Make sure you budget for gear. You'll need gloves, a Jacket, a helmet, boots, and overpants if you don't want to skimp on anything. You'll want rain gear as well. This is going to add up, a lot.

    Browse around in the flea market here.
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  14. Mollygrubber

    Mollygrubber Eschew obfuscation

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    I'm jealous Henrik, what an adventure! Good luck with everything, I hope you find a suitable bike. Make sure you've got good rain gear, nothing ruins your fun like being cold and wet. If you get near Vancouver (Canada, not Washington :deal) there's a spare room here with your name on it.
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  15. Henrik01

    Henrik01 n00b

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    That Molly, but unfortunately I'm not allowed to leave the states during my trip :(
    If I do, they won't let me back in haha




    Yes, my instructor was very clear about that, that for the reminder. I went there yesterday, so now all I need to do is to wait for the new one in the mail :clap

    As for rain gear, will a normal rain coat and pants be enough if its pulled over the regular riding gear?

    I luckily already have boots, and possible also helmet and gloves :)





    Any thoughts about the bikes I've been looking at?


    http://martinsburg.craigslist.org/mcy/3260173498.html

    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/3299756813.html

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271069232065&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123#ht_553wt_1165
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  16. eatpasta

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    Get whatever YOU feel comfortable on! Dont listen to anyone about any of it - find something that fits YOU. Doesnt matter what it is.....as long as its safe I suppose.
    I would recommend something like a standard especially for your price range, you might find that doesn't feel right. A cruiser/dirtbike/etc might be better for you (however.... I can't say that I recommend that.... :lol3 )
    Along those lines I would say trying to find a decent CB750 might be a good place to start. If you like dirtbikes, you could try to find an XR650L or maybe a DR650.

    and the insurance depends on your age. If you're older than 26 it will be much lower. You only need Liability coverage by law and that's pretty cheap. I pay $300 a year on 6 bikes.
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  17. SxyRdr

    SxyRdr Been here awhile

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    Used gear is fine... except helmets. It's my personal opinion, I'm just paranoid like that and will not buy a used helmet. There are plenty of good/safe helmets on the market for cheap.

    You may find that a backpack is not good for long distances. If it's packed full/heavy, it can be tiresome and can actually restrict your movements somewhat. Plus there's the whole argument about having something strapped to your spine in the event of a get-off. You don't have to spend a lot on luggage. You can strap any bag to the back seat. The concern would be to make sure it's water resistant to protect the contents in the event you get caught in the rain. Plastic bags work. :D Put all of your stuff inside plastic bags and put them into a backpack or duffel and bungee net it to the back seat. :deal
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  18. ER70S-2

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    What side of the street do you ride on?
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  19. AZbiker

    AZbiker Crunkin' with crackers

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    That 185 is really small. 750 Vulcan looks good, but it's a little on the heavy side. Thought about an EX500 Kawasaki or GS500E Suzuki? Also a 454 Ltd Kawasaki. Honda Nighthawk 450 would work well.
    Honda also made a CM400 that would do the cross-country thing quite well also.
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  20. AteamNM

    AteamNM Wonna Be ADVrider

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    All you need to travel the world cheaply on a motorcycle is a KLR and a milk crate. :lol3

    I leave in 3 days for a fly and ride from Richmond Virginia to New Mexico. I just received my motorcycle operators license. I have purchased a used jacket, GPS, used Wolfman soft bags, refurbished my camping gear and have been preparing for this trip for about one month. I am buying a KLR for less than $3K. I will have $1000 invested in this trip including buying gear that I will need. Flight, motel room insurance, etc. I will camp most of the time. I plan to be gone 3 to 4 weeks. I have no routes determined.

    Good luck, get a DR650, XR650 or a KLR 650 and pack it up and go. Also check the tent space thread for options to stay with someone.

    Ateam

    Pic of bike soon to be mine.
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    Do a ride report, for sure. here is a response to a ride report thread from me:

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=596215&page=13

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