The New -- Liquid-Cooled -- BMW RT?

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by marco polo, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. marco polo

    marco polo Been here awhile

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  2. fixinbones

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  3. HotChilliColdBeer

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    I hope they offer it in a different paint scheme.





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  4. JerryH

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    A liquid cooled BMW boxer is blasphemy, just like a liquid cooled Harley. It's just plain wrong. BMW has a liquid cooled motor. Leave the purists alone.
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  5. ikonoklass

    ikonoklass Kountersteering Krew

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    It hasn't been "pure" since the advent of oil cooling, and the liquid cooling in the new Boxer is quite minimal.

    I am definitely interested in the new RT, but I can't imagine it being much lower than $22K-$24K, and that's just too damn much.
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  6. k-moe

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    In a manner of speaking it hasn't been "pure" since WWII ended :rofl
    I am going to hell for that :thwak
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  7. Crocodile Tears

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    Quite possible

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  8. Haroon

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    Pure or impure:D, atleast the headlight seems to be going the 1600GTL way, which is a nice touch.
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  9. FlyingFinn

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    That. Personally I think the RT benefits more from the new motor and electronics than the GS does. I still consider the Hexhead GS a true dua-sport with equal weighting on dirt and street functionality.

    On dirt, 15 more HP and list of new whiz bang electronics are not going make it any better.

    RT is pure road bike with lot of emphasis on electronics and comfort features.
    The liquid cooled technology will really make the RT that much better.
    It can also use all the additional power it can get.

    But for my pocketbook the RT is already now too pricey (as new).
    The new one will make it even more so.
    Hello 2013 FJR.

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  10. Colorado_Rider

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    I was in the market for one, but I decided getting an FJR, completely modding it out and having enough left over to buy just about any decent bike on craiglist was a better option.
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  11. hankgs

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    Ummm. The BLACK & WHITE swirl or psycho-dylic graphs are vinyl graphics that BMW Motorrad as well as the Auto Group (BMW/Mini Cooper/Rolls Royce-Bentley) use over the paint ON PURPOSE, so as not to give away body design. They also use screwed on "PLASTIC Fenders" attached with external screws...
    Usuallly, if these vehicles are seen, they are conducting road tests with computer equipment reading everything from road noise, emissions, vehicle electronics, and engine functions. The vehicles need "real world" driving miles and they are usually running 15 hours out of 24 everyday...
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  12. ka5ysy

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    Hot flash: Oil in the current boxers is "liquid cooling". That's what the radiator is for.

    And FWIW, the Street Rod has the best engine in the HD lineup. Sad that a lot of the HD crowd does not consider it to be a Harley. What I can't wait to see is what happens when HD is forced to stick liquid cooled engines in the rest of the line for EPA requirements. Talk about culture shock !

    Kind of like happened when BMW went from the Airheads to the Oilheads. Or the switch from carbs to fuel injection. Or points and condensers to electronic ignitions. Nobody likes change. Mostly things improved greatly.
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  13. rride

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    When donkeys fly. Give it 35 more years when they dies are paid for.
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  14. JerryH

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    I don't understand why everybody is so supportive of the EPA. They have destroyed cars, and are now destroying motorcycles. My two main hobbies. Yet they have done nothing to protect the land and water. The local lake is a cesspool, and the once beautiful desert and farmland has been permanently destroyed by developers with cookie cutter stucco houses and shopping malls as far as you can see (from 10,000 feet) And if there is an air pollution problem here, and I have not seen it, it is because the population is not 20 times what it was 40 years ago, because of the developers, which the EPA did nothing about. They scream about air pollution, while standing by and allowing my state to be destroyed. I have no sympathy for the EPA whatsoever.

    And vehicles have only gotten better due to higher quality materials and manufacturing techniques. I am the owner of two 50 year old cars, and have had no problems with them. Built to todays specs, without all the EPA crap, they would last just as long as new cars.


    Those old BMWs had a special something I call character and personality. You could actually see them shake as they sat there idling, and you could feel the firing pulses when accelerating. Now they feel like turbine engines. As long as Harley keeps their 45 degree single crankpin long stroke design, they will still have that character and personality. I have seen patent drawings for a liquid cooled Harley, and the liquid cooling is nearly invisible. No huge radiator up front like the V-Rod.

    But it is still totally wrong for any manufacturer to have to switch to liquid cooling if they don't want to. And since Polaris just developed an entirely new air cooled engine for Indian, I wouldn't write off air cooled engines just yet.
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  15. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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  16. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    So character equals a rough running lumpy uncomfortable vibrating engine? :rofl I'll take "turbine" smooth over that shit any day.
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  17. Blakebird

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    only the heads are liquid cooled (glycol/water replaces oil), the radiators are small on each side - you still have air cooled jugs.


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  19. studad

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    That's awesome. I wish HD would start joining the modern era of historical engines with modern tech.
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  20. Blakebird

    Blakebird r-u-n-n-o-f-t

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    I look forward to the new boxer motor seeing duty in a range of bikes, especially the HP- series sporting iron. :nod



    Why single H-D out? Because it's fashionable? There are a lot of other engine designs that date back a ways....Moto Guzzi, BMW, Ducati... all fuel injected and with big brains just like H-D plugs into their bikes.

    Nothing gets older or more stale than H-D bashing.
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