The New Ninja 300

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by studad, Sep 13, 2012.

  1. Navin

    Navin Long timer

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    I had a 2006ish Ninja 250 beater we played with as a mini café project too. The 300 is no comparison to any of them except in its agility and lack of braking power. Engine performance and character are totally different.
  2. Navin

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  3. Terrytori

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    Between Navin's postings and a couple of the video reviews, there is really not a whole lot for me to add about this scoot.

    Unlike Navin, I approached this bike with no real desire to mod it up significantly or to hot rod it.

    Having a mostly stock 250 R, my primary reason for buying a 300 , was to get that little extra grunt off throttle and in the mid range, and to run a bike with ABS.

    Unlike Navin, I have no issues with the stock brakes ... but then, I have not tried to haul it down from triple digit speeds in a hurry.

    The bike totally delivers as promised.

    Starting is instantaneous and thanks to the FI, there is no need to fire the puppy up ten minutes before departure. The fuel injection is seamless without soft spots anywhere, and usable power comes on as low as 6000 ... that would be 9000 on the 250.

    I put an Akrapovic can on it primarily for aural gratification and have not been disappointed. If any of you decide to add an Ackrapovic, pull the silencer tip as it sounds hugely anemic with it in place.

    Overall, the bike is a beautiful handing , easy to ride, dead bolt simple little scooter with enough added punch to justify the step up in price from the 250.

    Start making serious upgrades to it, and the whole value to performance ratio gets thrown out of whack in my opinion.

    It's a great twisty back road bike and a total delight as an urban scoot.

    It would be more capable of doing a cross country haul than the 250, but I don't think I'll be putting up my hand up to do that again on something this small.

    It is what it is... and it's real good at it.
  4. B02S4

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    Great summary!
  5. Navin

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    You cheap bastages.

    :lol3

    Bottom line for me, there is only 3 choices right now for a tiny sporty bike. I wanted option #4, the tiny really sporty, hi spec bike they don't build. Great brakes, great suspension and great feel that only a small displacement bike can offer.

    I could own a used $4000 GSXR1000 if I wanted one. That throws the performance to value ratio right out the window, unless you want the transitional sensation of a tiny gyro force. Here the 300 delivers what the 1000 can't. It feels like a tank in comparison.
  6. Anteraan

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  7. B02S4

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    Hey, nothing wrong with building that at all. I don't think a clapped-out liter Gixxer is a fair comparison to the 300 at all, though. The above said, in principle, with respect to the 300, I personally agree with TT's assessment.
  8. Navin

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    Clapped out? Have you been shopping? My friend bought a 7000 mile GSXR 1000 for $3800 a few months ago. It is mint. I sold my KTM 950 SM to build this bike, over twice the HP, great brakes and suspension. It still feels massive in comparison though. This is as close to a RZ350 you can get right now, hopefully there is a move to build top level small bores, but I doubt it. Till then, I'll build my own! :wink:
  9. Randy

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    THIS is as close to an RZ350 that I can get right now. :evil :D

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    Picked it up in '99, all original, with 16 original miles on it. Still had the factory lithium grease on the chain. :clap

    Came with a set of Toomey's (not installed at time of this picture) and a few other bits and pieces. Spent some time talking with a guy down in Florida (forget his name now) that specialized in RZs, and bought a jet kit he put together for me to augment the Toomey's and Y-pipe intake/K&N. Then some more time getting everything dialed in... Great little bike! I haven't ridden it in years now, since moving on to other interests, but it's still a very nice bike...

    But, I get your meaning... I need to get a ride on one of these 300s... Then again, maybe I don't...:wink:
  10. Navin

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    True, but I wanted the 17" wheels, no worries of rotted rubber anywhere...bla, bla, bla. New, fresh, you get the idea. It falls short on so, so many attributes, but it is as close as you can buy, new, in 2013. :lol3
  11. Jimmy the Heater

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    Oh please tell me it has more than 19 miles on it now?
  12. scooterspirit

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    this says that it's a comparison, but it's really about the cbr250. Does say a lot of things about the ninja300 inadvertently. I find the new 300 pretty fascinating and I'm interested to know how many miles navin will rack up on it.

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  13. B02S4

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    It's all good. And the 390 Duke looks really promising; if it pans out, I know where my money will be spent.
  14. Navin

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    :evil

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    Renazco Racing front/rear. +1" front, extra tall in the front. The bike just took a massive leap up on the comfort scale. With my SV racing rear swets the fit is perfect.

    Great work once again James! :freaky
  15. doogiepooch

    doogiepooch Been here awhile

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    Navin one last question, is the speedo far off on these things? Like is 80 really 75? So when we were talking cruising speeds on the other thread, were we talking actual or speedo or are they far enough off to even worry.
  16. Navin

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    I have the 15t front sprocket and the speedo is now correct to 90 MPH, GPS confirmed. Stock gearing it reads high, that's why some are claiming it does 118 MPH, :lol3.

    If you are close to NJ you can ride mine.

    I think I've been pretty honest about its shortcomings. It has its flaws for sure, far from perfect. I've tried to address them as I wanted a different bike than they built. At the least, I recommend the tapered roller bearings in the steering head and the 15t sprocket. The rest of it is quite competent. Add tires if you plan to flog it on twisty roads, others find them acceptable, I hated them.

    Not the bike for everybody but the smallest do it all streeter IMO.
  17. doogiepooch

    doogiepooch Been here awhile

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    Ah as you know, no bike is perfect. I think this thing checks all my boxes, it's a Kawi first off, its light, sporty enough by my standards and overall seems to be able to do everything I need while keeping a good mix of fun and economy. Kawi should give you a cut, you are a good promoter. You seriously have sold me. If I can get the KLR cleaned up before the weekend I may stroll home with one Saturday. If not then def by the next weekend.
  18. Navin

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    I think they'd like to ring my neck at this point! :lol3

    If they put this engine in a package with adjustable, decent legs, good brakes and a few premium bits I'd have been happier but I have built it as close as I can get for now.

    They are missing the boat not using this engine in a full series of bikes. The torque and gear ratios could power a decent all road adventure style bike. 8" of travel and 21/18" wheels and a different tank/seat and it would be better than the KLR IMO. It could have a 10k redline, that's where the stock power drops off anyway. It wouldn't be a wheelie threat, but it could be a great bike.

    Pop in if you get one and give an opinion. I feel like the only guy here who bought one! :1drink
  19. doogiepooch

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    Already looking at parts...probably not the ones of the typical ninja 300 driver....but does this thing put out enough electric juice to run the Oxford grips with no issues? I vowed some time ago to never own another bike without heated grips ever again :rofl If it will do those and charge a gps or phone at the same time I'm happy.
  20. Navin

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    I ran my Gerbings jacket liner and gloves while my 65w headlights were on without any problem. I had a heck of a time finding the stator output numbers. I can't find it now either :lol3. IIRC it was over 300w. You shouldn't have any problem.