The new Yamaha Bolt BIKE thread

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by mrbreeze, Apr 9, 2013.

  1. Ritalin Boy

    Ritalin Boy Petroconsumptivitius

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    I love it...

    50 state legal on *stock* engines 07 or newer.

    I'm sure the dealerships are making sure the SE pipe is the *only* modification they suggest, because any more and your new pipe might be too loud. :wink:
  2. Randy

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    So what?

    To get the stamp of approval it has to be tested. Do you really expect them, or any manufacturer to pay for the testing on every possible combination of aftermarket parts that an owner might use on their particular bike? They test their pipes on their engines as designed. It still falls within the allowable sound limits and they get the street legal seal of approval. Just a simple CYA from marketing. That's better than most. A lot of aftermarket exhaust from various manufacturers aren't even legal at all technically, stock engines or not. And that's not just in regard to Harleys. And I suppose that crappy JC WHitney knock-off thing that was shown for the bolt earlier in this thread is any better???

    Geesh! If your THAT concerned about Screamin' Eagle do a little reading on some HD related forums and you just might find that a lot of people don't really like them because the current SE pipes are too quiet.

    There are a ton of obnoxiously loud exhaust on the market for a ton of different bikes, and from many different manufacturers.
  3. blk-betty

    blk-betty bam-a-lam

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    Ok here is the answer. For the last 4-5 years HD has changed their stance on loud exhaust in response to negative public preception.

    Screamin Eagle mufflers, until about '07 were much louder and were advertised as "Race Use Only" and not noise compliant. Dealers and the MoCo sold and installed them for any Dick or Jane who wanted louder mufflers knowing they were going to be used on street / non-race bikes with the understanding if the rider is cited for loud exhaust, HD is not liable.

    About 5 years ago HD realized the error of their ways and now all Sreamin Eagle mufflers are 50 state street legal and comply with Federal noise standards. Changing engine internals, cams, heads, intake, will increase the sound but not by much. Will they still pass noise restrictions. That I don't know.

    The vast majority of HDs and metric cruisers that are overly loud have aftermarket mufflers and there are more of these than I care to count, some of the more popular are Vance and Hines, D&D, Thunderheader, Supertrapp, Reinhardt, Samson, Cycle-Shack (who made the older style loud Screamin Eagle mufflers), Cobra, Rush, and Bassani.

    Older say from pre-2004 Cycle Shack supplied Screamin Eagle mufflers were loud. Then HD, in response to noise complaints, discontinued that series and introduced the Screamin Eagle II series which, although not 50-state legal, were much quieter than the original SE series. These were phased out as well for the same reason around 07-08 and now all the SE mufflers meet federal noise compliance standards.

    Of course dealers still sell and install louder aftermarket systems done against the recommendation of the MoCo but as far as I know there are no repercussions from the parent company for doing so just as there are none for metric cruiser dealers who sell and install aftermarket mufflers.
  4. Ritalin Boy

    Ritalin Boy Petroconsumptivitius

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    Thank you for the clarification.
  5. blk-betty

    blk-betty bam-a-lam

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    No problem, there is a lot of misinformation circulated about HDs and if one isn't "into" them there is no reason to know or care about all the sutitlies.

    Now, back to regular scheduled programming. Anyone seeing R-Secs at their dealers yet?
  6. Super Sneaky Steve

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    A few guys on the Bolt forum have them, so they are trickling in. My dealer hasn't called me yet.
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    A little better than I thought it would be.
  8. DirtHopper

    DirtHopper Been here awhile

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    I'm just wondering how well it handles for only $25K :evil
  9. ferrix

    ferrix Been here awhile

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    'Low and mean' is not my style.. but how about this Roland Sands treatment:

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  10. JerryH

    JerryH Banned

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    As the owner of a heavily modified Chevy S10, and a member of 3 S10 forums, this thing reminds me of a totally SLAMMED truck with 24" wheels. Totally and completely useless as a vehicle, it is for show only. Yes, many people on those forums have $25K into their rides, so I guess this is not really different (other than THEY built theirs) but it is not something I would expect to see on an ADV rider forum. I would expect bikes on here to at least be rideable. How can everyone on here dislike stock cruisers, and still like this thing?

    BTW, my truck is NOT lowered, or lifted. I went in a whole different direction and created something unique, and completely driveable.
  11. NJ-Brett

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    Get with the program.
    Sportsters are heavy, can't lean, cant take bumps (suspension), and you cant sit on them long, and they sell like hotcakes.


  12. Super Sneaky Steve

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    Now that looks fun! I'd give it a front fender and a little more cush for my toosh, but then it would be perfect. :clap
  13. Randy

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    Now THAT is a Bolt I can dig! That exhaust looks SO much better than the stock Yamaha unit. RSD does a lot of bikes that I like. :thumb Just add a real seat and I could probably enjoy that one.
  14. DirtHopper

    DirtHopper Been here awhile

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    how much is THAT kit :D :deal
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    May be late to the party but I ain't seen it here....
    I'm liking the looks of this, with much potential for mods


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  19. motrhead

    motrhead Travellin' Soul

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    When I saw the first pics of the Bolt I was very impressed. I followed this thread for quite a while, and was quite excited when one of the local dealers had a demo day, and I got to ride the Bolt for myself.
    My first words when I got off were "This thing is gutless!".
    The Yamaha rep turned red and was spitting nails.
    "You can't call it gutless! It's 950cc!"
    I told him my old FT500 Ascot would probably smoke it. Turns out I may have been right after comparing quarter mile times. LOL.
    I got to take it out on a secondary highway, and rode it for a good twenty minutes at up to about 70mph, and I did get plenty of good chances to accelerate through the gears and roll on in the top gears. It actually pulls fine in fifth for the spread of the very narrow torque curve, but dropping a gear or two to accelerate was pretty much pointless. It was better to just roll on the throttle and wait. It *feels* responsive because of the fuel injection, and in the narrow band where it makes power it does ok, but I was really underwhelmed. The digital dash was pretty much useless in sunlight with sunglasses on...I had to try to look below my glasses to read anything.
    The left fake valve-cover forced me to splay my left leg out (I'm 5'-9" btw) , and I had to twist my foot to avoid holding the shifter down. If I was buying one I would have to re-position the pegs. The trans was decent, although the throws felt a bit long to me. Handling seemed fine, and the brakes felt good.
    It is low and easy to ride, so it is going to be a great beginners bike.
    I really wanted to like the bike,being a Yamaha man, but even an ancient XS650 will smoke this thing. It makes my old CX650Honda look like a superbike in comparison.
    On the plus side of the demo rides, I really liked the Super Tenere, and liked the FJR1300 even more. There could be an FJR in my future, and before the ride I would never have considered that! LOL
  20. DirtHopper

    DirtHopper Been here awhile

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    It's a good thing there are more than one brand and model of motorcycles to please the masses. I would hate to see how angry enthusiasts would be if we all had only one bike to choose from:lol3