The Offical Pachaug Trail Thread

Discussion in 'Northeast - Greater Flugistan and home of the carp' started by leonphelps, Aug 1, 2008.

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Have you ridden Pachaug Trail before?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. I have not but I want to!

  4. I am scared to ride it....

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  1. Scottyluc

    Scottyluc Been here awhile

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    Actually the real hunters will sit all day this time of year. It's the Rut, or the mating season, so deer, and particularly bucks, are on their feet all day in search of a doe in heat. Anytime from the last week in Oct until about the 3rd or 4th week of Nov you will see an increase in daytime hunting activity.

    In CT it will be bowhunting only until Nov 15th and then the gun season opens. FYI bowhunters are not required to wear orange until the gun season opens. The gun season on State land will run to Dec 19th. But if you ride near any private land keep in mind that gun the season is open thru Dec 30th.
    Sunday hunting with a bow is also allowed on private land in most of the state.
    And lastly, if you ride in any of the shoreline towns the bow season is open until Jan 31st on private land.

    Just a little bit of hunting info from a bowhunting rider.
  2. KeithC

    KeithC Been here awhile

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    FWIW, While Fowler road may not be part of the official Pachaug enduro loop it is an unmaintained town rd belonging to the town of North Stonington, much like a good portion of Legenwood Rd. https://sccogct.mapgeo.io/properties/102-71-2837?latlng=41.489057,-71.849962&zoom=16.
    .Please be careful everywhere out there on the loop, it isnt a closed racetrack after all.:muutt:-)
  3. MATPOC

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    No guns on Sunday though, correct?

    RI has couple weeks of Bow only, then muzzle and only then shotgun, no centerfield rifle is allowed. Can't recall when it ends, but law says anytime you are in the state woods during the "hunting" season you have to have 200 square inches of dayglo orange and during deer season is miimum 500, hunter or not... Is CT the same?
    Kinda freaked out by the recent one where woman walking dogs got killed by someone with a pistol... Apparently he was deer hunting after sunset, or just walking and thought he saw a deer? End result she dead!
  4. Scottyluc

    Scottyluc Been here awhile

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    Correct no guns on Sunday. Centerfire rifle is not allowed on State land in CT. Only Shotgun and muzzleloader.
    As far as the orange goes, Anytime after Nov 15th, which is the deer gun season opener state wide, anyone in the woods has to wear at least 400 sq in of orange above the waste visible from all sides. Small game hunters, which are in the woods from Sept 1st thru Feb 28th, have the same orange requirement.
    Couple caveats here:
    Bowhunters who are hunting during the gun season can take off their orange once they are more than 10' off the ground. In other words, once a bowhunter is in their treestand they can remove their orange.
    The other is Landowners do not have to wear orange when hunting their own land. Landowners are also allowed to gun hunt for deer starting on Nov 1st on their own land. Rifles are allowed if the landowner has more than 10 acres.

    As for the incident in NY, that was truly avoidable. The woman was allegedly shot in a field 45min after sunset. Which, from what I understand, in NY is 45min after legal shooting light. The guy who shot her (I refuse to call him a hunter) admitted that he was shooting at movement.
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  5. MATPOC

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    Great info! Understanding hunting regs can help avoid getting shot or catching a ticket.
    Seems CT and RI are somewhat similar, with certain private land exceptions.
    Seems day-glow orange vest is a no-brainer when riding during hunting season. You might think that bikes are not likely to get shot at, but imagine stopping to take a break... Now you wishing you had one!
    Still there is a problem with people who are not following rules, some idiot shot a jogger in Cape Cod several years back, IIRC he was on the road and shooter has no hunting license also unregistered firearm.
  6. Rusty Rocket

    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

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    My KTM Jersey has at least the minimum orange area and the bike is in compliance too. :photog
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  7. Mikey97d

    Mikey97d Been here awhile

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    I don't know the loop well enough, but the Pathfinders I rode with said they needed a name for the spot. At least I haven't gotten nominated for the Pondfinder Award 2 years in row. LOL
  8. MATPOC

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    I thought that too, but when you see the day-glow vest at dusk vs your KTM gear it makes all the difference, it literally glows.

    It may look dumb but I got XXL vest and wear it over the top of all my gear, over the Camelback too
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  9. Rusty Rocket

    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

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    you drank the orange cool-aid (for clothes)
  10. stromper

    stromper Been here awhile

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    Didn't look this year but Walmart has Day glow orange mesh vests for like $4

    I am also not entirely convinced that Sunday is guaranteed safe. When I was pistol shooting many of the tales seem it was/is a free for all

    One guy bagged 22 deer 1 season my barber routinely gets 6 or more. I never see a game warden stopping cars and trucks like they do in NY
  11. Junya

    Junya Adventurer

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    I am riding Wednesday as it is to be pretty nice.
    Anyone else?
    I will be headed out of Eg,RI....
    Probably ride lower loop area. Meet up beach pond parking@ 10/1030 or follow me out of EG
  12. MATPOC

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    Better safe than sorry, ATGATT means ATGATT ;)
  13. MATPOC

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    I was ready to go but some last minute family stuff says I'm staying close to home...
  14. ndavis

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    I plan on going
  15. sprouty115

    sprouty115 Long timer

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    I have an honest question - isn't it finally time to simply share a gps file with the correct track?

    I understand that there is a tradition of learning the loop by following other local riders, and I respect this. But I've been around the full trail a few times and smaller portions of it many more times than that and I keep hearing and seeing the same thing:
    - experienced riders who I was following riding the loop differently
    - people riding on their own lost and wondering where the "correct" trail is
    - people riding the loop in reverse
    - people on large bikes clearly not knowing what level of difficulty was ahead and not knowing there was an option to by-pass it

    I finally have managed to create a gps track that (I think) will keep me on the proper loop, and given how useful that is in keeping me out of areas that are prohibited, I'm having a hard time understanding how giving that file to someone I trust as a rider wouldn't benefit the whole riding community?

    To be clear, I don't consider myself a local so I haven't shared the file, and I'm not suggesting it should be created and then dumped on a website with access for anybody who wants it. But there is no denying the fact that people are coming to ride in the park - after all, it is public property. Nor can you argue against the fact that the park is a fragile resource that needs to be managed in a way that both encourages and helps people to follow the rules. And right now, outside of a few people, there is nothing but a lot of confusion...
  16. Hurricane Bob

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  17. akarob

    akarob Green Cantern

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    I'd be willing to make a 100% accurate GPX file and host it on a server for download. I really don't see how it could be a bad thing. If anyone has any issue with it, or would want to review my work beforehand, now would be the time to speak up. I'm confident that I know every bit of it by the map on the Park's website (and my signature).

    I just need to re-record one tiny section. I would probably also put some waypoints at various points of interest. I'd split it up between upper and lower, two tracks.
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  18. jaylude

    jaylude Been here awhile

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    My only caution would be that the "official" route is up to the state of CT to define and maintain, since they're the owners and custodians of the land. The route could be changed at any time (for example, if/when the gun range goes in). Right now, that route is defined by the map on DEEP's homepage.

    A GPS file that's accurate today, may not be tomorrow, and could perpetuate the problem. Once a gps file is out there and shared, t's out there, right or wrong, accurate or not, forever...
  19. akarob

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    So basically...

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  20. sprouty115

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    My vote (if we were to suddenly become democratic about this), is yes. please do. Then it would be much easier for people to avoid potential conflict between everyone who uses the park.

    The same concern applies to a paper map, route sheet or, even memorized knowledge of the route - when it changes you have to go somewhere to find the latest update. The advantage of the gps file is that it's a very convenient method of updating the community.