The Official 2013 F1 Thread. Spoilers possible!

Discussion in 'Racing' started by g®eg, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. JeffS77

    JeffS77 cheap bastard

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    isnt he the only NASCAR craftsman truck series driver to win a F1 race :lol3
  2. WildAnCrazymtl

    WildAnCrazymtl Political Prisonor

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    Jacques Villeneuve won the indy 500 and an indy championship as well as his WDC in F1. He also raced the trucks I believe, but that did not go well...
  3. Paebr332

    Paebr332 Good news everyone!

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    Win or lose Kimi is ALWAYS interesting.

    His navigation at Interlagos last year was epic.
  4. g®eg

    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    pretty good gallery from the Malaysian GP

    LINK
  5. okiegtrider

    okiegtrider Long timer

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    Those are some nice photos. But they got some guys name in the middle of every one of them :D
  6. wxwax

    wxwax Excited Member

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    :thumb Good photog.
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    wxwax Excited Member

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    We got about 250 posts out of that. It surfaced people who never post in F1 threads. Nice to see them. Thank you, Sebastian. :lol3
  8. g®eg

    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    that's what I was thinking.... :lol3

    so Seb has gone to Milton Keynes & apologized to the whole team
    I guess that was the only way for Horner to save face, and maintain the illusion of "team boss".
  9. g®eg

    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    for the US fans
  10. PeteN95

    PeteN95 Long timer

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    That is what all the other teams wish for!?! :rofl
  11. overlandr

    overlandr Dystopist

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    Apologies are polite and courteous - but the damn points elephant is still in the room! They're obviously just testing the water with the media/fans response and they are lucky to have a fortnight left to do it. I say stand him down 1 race.
  12. doyle

    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

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    What a dishrag statement by Horner. He essentially gives Vettel the pass that Webber said he would get, green lights disobeying team orders where they conflict with driver's best interests, and undermines his own management in the team. While he may be right in that their highly competitive nature can cloud their team thinking, what a poor management statement to make.

    There you go Mark Webber, your team manager is essentially calling you a submissive douche bag for not having turned the wick back up and fought back to pass Vettel for the remaining laps.
  13. HarveyMushman

    HarveyMushman Tire Squarerer

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    Is this true, or just a grammatical train wreck? Has Webber disobeyed orders to pass a cruising Vettel?
  14. mdubya

    mdubya Right Brigade

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    You, as a fan, may want that. But the team has no intention of doing that, nor do they want to.

    The team must be laughing in some way. It has two drivers who want to win and one who is pissed off for not winning. Tough position. :wink:
  15. mdubya

    mdubya Right Brigade

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    I don't know that Webber would have done exactly the same, but he has a history of ignoring team orders in the past. And everyone speculates that he won't help Vettel now, team orders or no.

    I am wringing my hands. :rofl
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    WildAnCrazymtl Political Prisonor

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    He has disobeyed orders in the past in Turkey 2010, Silverstone 2011 and in Brazil 2012 to name a few...

    Mark has never really passed Vettel in a similar situation but has tried. It's one of those things... Vettel gets around mark and makes it look easy-ish. Mark is a nice guy but to drive around Vettel that is something else.
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    overlandr Dystopist

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    The similarities between Vettel and MS in that regard are uncanny.:evil
  18. Josephvman

    Josephvman I'm the Decider

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    I was wondering when Vettel would finally erase all doubt that's he a complete dick, and he did so in grand fashion in Maylasia.

    I think Webber has done a pretty good job of controlling himself in the face of Vettel's childish bullshit, and the way the team has coddled the petulant little twat over the past two seasons. Vettel may be a great talent, but I think he lost the little respect he had remaining as an honorable sportsman.

    I've hated the guy with a passion ever since he pulled that bullshit on the podium at Abu Dhabi with David Couthard.




  19. wxwax

    wxwax Excited Member

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    :dunno I don't make much of it. They're spanking him behind the scenes and praising him to the media. Good people management, seems to me. I would think it was humiliating for Vettel to be forced to apologize to the entire team in person. That's a better punishment than a fine. They were never going to suspend him. This is probably he best they can do, given the circumstances.
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    If you're saying that every other team would want Vettel, that's an interesting proposition. I wonder?

    I don't think think Mercedes would want him. I don't see that he's a huge step up from Rosberg, and he's not as good as Hamilton.

    Ferrari have basically decided they don't want him. Not because he isn't better than Massa, but because they believe in a firm 1-2 and they don't have room for two prima donnas.

    McLaren might take him. But coddled fair-haired little boy Sebastian's head might explode when he finds out that McLaren really mean it when they say both drivers are treated equally. Alonso didn't handle it well and I doubt Vettel would, not after all the pampering and diaper-changing that Red Bull and Helmut Marko have given him.

    So now we're sliding pretty far down the grid. Who am I leaving out? Lotus? They might go for it, if money weren't an issue. Williams? I'd love to see that. Frank Williams treats drivers only a little better than Toro Rosso. Force India? Unaffordable.

    So really, I would think his options are surprisingly limited. :dunno