The Official 2013 F1 Thread. Spoilers possible!

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  1. g®eg

    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    so the story on the nose is: that was last year's wing and they can't use it

  2. Black7

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    Wing aero is amazingly complex as well. Just looking at some of them it seems they are using some of the blades as a combo aero element and as a faux 'duct' to create high pressure areas then directing that high pressure air onto a tiny winglet. Pretty creative, but I also see the upper echelon teams don't even bother to try it so I wonder how effective it really is.
  3. g®eg

    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    probably too soon to talk about 2014 but...

  4. g®eg

    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    facts & figures from Lotus on Monaco

    LINK

    pretty cool :thumb
  5. HarveyMushman

    HarveyMushman Tire Squarerer

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    No nostalgia here. I just don't find pit stops to be exciting, I don't envision parked (however briefly) cars when the word "racing" crosses my mind, and I don't think pit stops should be the focus of any spint race.

    What's frustrating is that the reason for F1's processional nature is known to every engineer in the paddock, including those that write the rules. Yet F1 does nothing substantive to address it. Instead they pile on gimmicks--DRS, tires designed to fail, etc.--as if what any sport really needs to be more exciting is more management from the blue blazers. :rolleyes

    I'm left to assume they don't want to fix it, for whatever reason(s).
  6. Paebr332

    Paebr332 Good news everyone!

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    One more bit of info on the whole "the tires are ruining F1" panic. Red Bull's average finish position through 5 races this season is identical to last season (5th), even with Webers DNF at China this year. Mercedes is actually better (average of 13th last season and 9th this). Hamilton averaged a 5th place through 5 races last year, and 6th this year. Vettel was averaging 5th through 5 races in 2012 and his average this year is 3rd.

    Red Bull, Ferarri, Lotus and Mercedes ALL have more constructors' points through 5 races this season than at this point last season. McLaren is the only big loser among the top teams from last year, replaced by Force India this season.

    I already posted earlier about the data showning winning lap times essentially unchanged from last season.

    So what exactly are Red Bull's and Mercedes' complaints about the tires? Why is everyone (except Ferarri, Lotus and Force India) in a tizzy about the tires?
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    socalrc31 Been here awhile

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    Sorry if this has been covered already but what is NBC Sports plans for GP2? Looks like it is scheduled for the upcoming Monaco weekend but I didn't see it scheduled around the Spanish F1 weekend... Thx Ken
  8. rml

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    Cheers for posting that link.
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    wxwax Excited Member

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    They typically carry the GP2 race live, from what I've seen. Will Buxton does the commentary, I believe. Are you sure they didn't do it in Spain?
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    Rajin Cajun Been here awhile

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    1. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes-Mercedes 1m 14.759s
    2. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes-Mercedes 1m 15.077s
    3. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 15.196s
    4. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 15.278s
    5. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1m 15.404s
    6. Kimi Raikkonen Finand Lotus-Renault 1m 15.511s
    7. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1m 15.718s
    8. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1m 15.959s
    9. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1m 16.014s
    10. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1m 16.046s
    11. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1m 16.349s
    12. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1m 16.434s
    13. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1m 16.823s
    14. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1m 16.857s
    15. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1m 16.935s
    16. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 17.145s
    17. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 17.184s
    18. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1m 17.264s
    19. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1m 17.892s
    20. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1m 18.212s
    21. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1m 18.784s
    22. Giedo van der Garde Holland Caterham-Renault 1m 19.031s
  11. g®eg

    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    Random Big John shot (I just thought it was cool)

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    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    keeping everything shiny!

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  13. Rajin Cajun

    Rajin Cajun Been here awhile

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    Thanks for sharing Greg! That is a Great Shot! Were there any of Kimi?
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    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    I didn't see any
    (if there was... I'd have posted 'em... Kimi's my guy!)

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    does this count?

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  15. g®eg

    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    much ado about nothing....
    I suspect Bernie actually "wants" RUSH to get publicity... the movie has to be good for F1 (and his bank account).
    be a shame if Kimi retired again... (I don't think he will, but who knows, he likely has 10's of millions of Euro still from his Ferrari but out)
  16. wxwax

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    Thoughts about Thursday.

    Good audio of Grosjean's crash. It happened right where there was a camera and mic, so the sound of the collision was excellent.

    Monaco takes some getting used to. Turned on practice while eating dinner. Looked down., looked up to see an in-car camera as it went through Piscine. Swear to god I thought it was speeded-up video, that's how fast everything happens in that complex. Thrilling.

    Pole sitters have won 8 of the last 9. Passing is almost impossible. Mercedes firmly atop the oft-misleasding Prac 2 time sheets.

    Word during the broadcast is that Mercedes found a way to save their tires. One fast lap, then one slow lap. Rinse and repeat. Rosberg's fast lap was set, I believe they said, on his 21st or 22nd lap on those tires.

    Mercedes has done well at Monaco in the recent past. If they've solved the tires, we might have our 4th different winner in 6 races.
  17. g®eg

    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    I think you're pretty much on target there Sid.
    Don't forget safety cars though....


    and the Lotus guys, fully embracing social media, have this pre-race offering:

    <iframe width="853" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/G2gb5lxhcyI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    go KIMI :clap
  18. PeteN95

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    "Daft Punk"? Would that be Kimi or Grosjean? :D
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    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    Lotus have confirmed that Raikkonen has changed his helmet design; the new design will be unveiled at FP3 tomorrow morning.

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  20. Rajin Cajun

    Rajin Cajun Been here awhile

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    Mine too! :deal :D:freaky