The Official 2013 F1 Thread. Spoilers possible!

Discussion in 'Racing' started by g®eg, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. g®eg

    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    Interestingly enough Lotus, who had the bulge, seems to have gone away from it for Montreal

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    for comparison

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    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    new rear wing at STR as well

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    and even massive wing updates at lowly Caterham

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  3. PeteN95

    PeteN95 Long timer

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    It looks like stock 40HP Formula V? My dirt bike has more power, but it can still get you in trouble!?
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    srad600 Been here awhile

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    IF they were testing aero components then I could completely understand being up in arms, but that would be difficult to prove without footage, and I'm not sure there is any.


    News broadcasts and commentators have been eluding to this, but I cannot seem to find that specific section (in regards to the exception for Pirelli requested tire tests). It may be out there somewhere though...:ear If this is so very specifically called out in the rules, I cannot imagine why the team would just blatantly ignore it. I imagine there has to be some grey area they thought they could skirt.
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    'Flagger ..this space for rent..

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    The Formula 1200 is essentially an FV with a wider tire.
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    wxwax Excited Member

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    Hamilton reveals his deep knowledge of all things tehnical.

    The all-important "things". :lol3
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    A. T. T-W Can't be bothered.

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    I don't think that there are specific rules for tyre testing. Such testing falls within the general test rules:

    http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/rules_and_regulations/sporting_regulations/8713/fia.html

    First para:

    22.1 Track testing shall be considered any track running time not part of an Event undertaken by a competitor entered in the Championship, using cars which conform substantially with the current Formula One Technical Regulations in addition to those from the previous or subsequent year.

    Which also explains why the Pirelli tests conducted by other teams using 2011 cars are within the rules (2012, 2013 and 2014 spec cars are prohibited from testing).

    It doesn't matter whether or not they were running the cars with aero or other modifications, they would have gathered data that would otherwise not have been available outside the sanctioned periods of running at events.
  8. Turder

    Turder Throttle engineer

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    Huge thanks to greg, keep 'em updates coming:clap:clap Very interesting.
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    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    A bit different from the "things" on his girlfriend, but hey, Red Bull and Ferrari have those too.
  10. g®eg

    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    thanks

    a little animation of the brakes (and a few nose changes pointed out) at Ferrari

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  11. g®eg

    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    looks like New Jersey is a go

    LINK to huge pic of track layout

    News Jersey Grand Prix is a go!

    Organizers assure the race will take place from 2014 and that a unusually long 15-year deal was signed.
    Thursday, June 13, 2013





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    David Coulthard drives along JFK Blvd. at the Red Bull Show Run in Weehawken, NJ, USA on 15 August 2012.


    June 13th, 2013 (F1plus/J Leslie).- Two years ago the United States didn't host a Formula One race weekend, however that's all set to change as the country goes from hosting zero races 24 months ago to hosting two rounds of the Formula One World Championship in 2014.
    This is thanks to Bernie Ecclestone and FOM signing a long-term contract for the Grand Prix of America - a street circuit in New Jersey.
    The plan may sound familiar to you; the race was originally planned to take place right about now - a week after the Canadian Grand Prix. Organisers ran into financial trouble and the initial deal was terminated as organisers had not "complied with the terms and conditions of the contract."
    However the race is back on track and set for a June 2014 debut thanks to financial help from Bernie Ecclestone to clear the substantial debts that organisers had racked up. It's been reported the race now has a unsually long 15-year contract that secures the races long-term future.
    The race will certainly be an impressive spectacle. Running alongside the Hudson River and with the Manhattan skyline proving the perfect backdrop, the Port Imperial Street Circuit will last 3.2 miles and provide 19 challenging corners for drivers to negotiate.
    Speaking to Press Association Sport about the new long term contract, GPA executive chairman and race promoter Leo Hindery Jnr said: "The Grand Prix of America at Port Imperial has been a dream of many in the sport for over a decade.
    "We had hoped to be ready to race in June 2013, but by late last fall (autumn) it was clear we would not have in place in time the long-term capital structure needed to satisfy Formula One of our readiness."
    However thanks to a few helpers, the race is back on track: "Thanks to the patient, invaluable support of Bernie Ecclestone and FOM (Formula One Management) we now have a long-term sanctioning agreement needed to go racing for years to come, starting in June 2014.
    Next season looks to be tightly packed with the addition of New Jersey alongside Russia's Formula One debut.
  12. wxwax

    wxwax Excited Member

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    I don't know if anyone caught the NBC interview with the project lead for New Jersey, but he was comparing the track to Spa. :eek1

    I'm glad the race will go ahead. But this New York skyline thing is overblown. 90% of the time the cameras will be elevated and pointing downward at the New Jersey street surface, just as they spend most of their time looking down into the Singapore concrete barrier canyon and the Valencia dullsville track.

    Playing next to the world's media capitol will surely help grow the sport in the United States, though.
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    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    I heard that comment about Spa... and I thought "WTF does a guy from NJ know about Spa?"
    sort of believe it when I see it... but they claim a 15 year deal with Bernie's money too.

    Tilke ..... again....
    I think it'll likely be shit, but the media will wet themselves talking about the skyline of Manhattan etc etc....

    :rolleyes
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    wxwax Excited Member

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    NBC getting their money's worth from Will Buxton. He's doing the pre-race in Milwaukee today.
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    green hell yawning or snarling

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    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    yes... they are going on about the shape of the skid marks when he his Vander-whats-his-name...
    generally speaking though most people seem to be saying " its just drive-train oscillation causing a momentary change in torque at the wheels"


    and in other news: this'll confuse the hell out of people (and piss off Red Bull)

  17. wxwax

    wxwax Excited Member

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    Since the logos will be different, I don't think anyone will be confused. Nobody calls Red Bull, Infinity, do they?
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    g®eg Canadian living in exile

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    It might be a bit like the Lotus vs Lotus of a few years ago.

    I *think* Red Bull is trying to be "Infiniti Red Bull Racing" because Infiniti is their title sponsor (after sugary drinks guys... obviously).


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    I find it confusing the Toro Rosso cars say Red Bull on the side, but the Red Bull cars don't?! :huh
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    I'm a bit slow, took me a while to figure out that the Toro Rosoo cars had gold noses and Red Bull cars had yellow noses. Until I realized that, I had had a lot of trouble telling them apart on the track.