The Official Euro 2012 Thread

Discussion in 'Sports' started by JNRobert, Nov 15, 2011.

  1. JNRobert

    JNRobert Breaking Wind

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    I'm torn on the Italy - Spain game. I like Spain and have always despised Italy. But I like Balotelli and tactically this looks like a fascinating match.

    Edit: screw that, Italy have already started with their bullshit histrionics.
  2. ThePikeman

    ThePikeman German n00b

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    Nice game so far. Spain look far from dominating.
    Talk about a crowded midfield...
  3. JNRobert

    JNRobert Breaking Wind

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    :nod Little too busy ref and Silva is wasting so many chances - they really need Villa. But great so far.
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    TheWorstKind In the Wind

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    Yup, I'm enjoying the game. Not a fan of the "Phantom 9" that Spain is playing, but what do I know?

    If I were the Walrus, I'd bring in Torres, lay back a little in hopes of decongesting the 30 yards in front of Buffon's goal.
  5. JNRobert

    JNRobert Breaking Wind

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    Well, that's it. Italy will now put 11 men behind the ball.

    Woo Hoo I stand corrected !!!!! Fabregas!
  6. JNRobert

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    My God, what is wrong with Torres. He just doesn't have it anymore.
  7. ThePikeman

    ThePikeman German n00b

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    I wouldn't throw him out of my bed, but sure as hell, I wouldn't put him in a football team. :lol3
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    Offblnz Long timer

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    :lol3 I'm not seeing the game, but your comments make up for that!:lol3
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    ThePikeman German n00b

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    The best summary of the game I've read so far was: Catenaccio + Tiki Taka = Bunga Bunga! Caramba! :lol3
  10. Ostion

    Ostion Been here awhile

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    I think Italy played a very decent game, it reminds me to Real Madrid's attitude on the last game against Barcelona. Quick counter attack, and let them sleep the ball if they want. Italy would have scored more than once if they had Real Madrid's offense. Spain played their typical, predictable, tiki taka, which works until somebody scores against you. Their definition is still sub par. My $.02.
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    Offblnz Long timer

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    :rofl:lol3

    Italy - Spain
    Draw:snore Doesn't please my American-Italian wife:lol3
  12. JNRobert

    JNRobert Breaking Wind

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    That's obviously not true because the possession stats in the first half in particular was something like 48-52. Italy saw a lot of the ball and Spain wasn't closing down in the way Barcelona do.

    If it works until someone scores against you how come they equalized within four minutes and if it wasn't for Torres's atrocious finishing they might have won it 3-1?

    I've also noticed from the T.V. that the pitches look like complete shit. They're not the billiard tables that you usually see in La Liga or even the Premier league these days. That really effects Spains' game and their passing just wasn't the crisp, fast pinging were used to seeing.

    Having said that, I thought Italy looked very good and are a genuine threat.
  13. ThePikeman

    ThePikeman German n00b

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    Italy was drunken by their goal and maybe too relieved. Leads to shoddy defending.

    Atrocious finishing is more normal than a perfect game. Podolski had two howlers in the Germany game, too. The Dutch probably lost their place in the knockout round with it.
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    ThePikeman German n00b

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    The English bus has arrived at the stadium in Donetzk. BTW. Hart really is an English keeper. :lol3
  15. Dekatria

    Dekatria Ad Astra Per Aspera

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    Positively suprised by the English team. They stood quite a chance without Rooney.
  16. Ostion

    Ostion Been here awhile

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    My post merely speaks of the quality of the possesion, not the quantity. Del Bosque is a coward and is trying to duplicate the Barca style in the national team, without thinking that Spain does not have Messi, and that even with Messi, Barca has been defeated this year in the two main tournaments they have played. If Del Bosque continues in that direction, Spain won't reach the final. He has no balls and no personality.
    The height of the grass was the same for Italy, not a valid excuse.
  17. JNRobert

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    :rolleyes Right, the coward that has won the European and World Cup.

    The "style" is the Spanish style not specifically Barcelona (whom I'll get to in a minute) and has been around since an Englishman called Fred Pentland introduced it to Spain in the 1920's.

    As usual, the English didn't recognize genius when they saw it and Pentland, a professional player for Blackburn, couldn't get arrested in England as a coach so he went abroad. He introduced the short passing game (first at Racing Santander and later Athletic Bilbao). The Spanish National side using his short passing technique beat England in 1929. It was the first time England had lost an international game (they wouldn't lose at home until the Hungarians mullered them in 1956).

    So, no it isn't an eccentricity of Del Bosque but is part of the character of the Spanish side.

    Barcelona is different from the Spanish national side in that they've taken possession and added Rinus Michels innovation of Total Football introduced at Ajax (where Cruyff then took it to Barcelona). The Spanish side clearly doesn't try to copy it exactly except for playing a false nine and using the mid-field as interchangeable forwards. Which is tactically as sound as any other philosophy.

    Del Bosque is also not wedded to it or he wouldn't have brought on Torres and Navas in a traditional CF/Winger - which if Torres had scored would have looked like genius of tiring the Italians and then pouncing.

    As for the grass, yes it was the same for both teams but that still doesn't mean the field wasn't shit. UEFA (and FIFA) seem to worry about every logo and commercial right and let poor playing surfaces and plastic bouncy balls slide right on by. There should be a minimum standards for a playing surface at the international level.
  18. JNRobert

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    Talking of Messi, he scored a hat trick against a formidable Brazilian side. The most amazing thing is that a friendly drew 80,000 in New Jersey :huh

    Watch for Messi's third its extraordinary

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  19. Lobby

    Lobby Viel Spass, Vato!

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    "haat treek, Messi!"

    :lol3
  20. Ostion

    Ostion Been here awhile

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    He has never won the European Cup.