The Official Garmin 62 and 78 Thread

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by Emmbeedee, Sep 7, 2010.

  1. HogWild

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  2. adventurerideraus

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    This morning I bent one of the 4 pins in my 78 and when I tried to bend it back it snapped off, damn.

    But the unit still works??

    Anybody know what happens when one pin snapps off? Do I loose certain functions? It was the top left pin if somebody wonders.

    Anybody knows how much this cost to fix?

    Cheers
  3. Emmbeedee

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    Odds are you broke off one of the serial connections. Unless you need that, there's no real incentive to have it fixed. Traditionally Garmin fixes that kind of thing by sending you a refurbished unit, and at a fixed price.

    This PFranc cable assembly page shows the pins and what they do.

    And an image borrowed from the page, showing pin assignments.

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    Thanks again for your help Emmbeedee, lucky I broke that one :D

    Will be very careful from now on.
  5. Emmbeedee

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    There's one more you could break off for free. :lol3
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    What do you mean "it works"? It will work if you break them all off. Does it still power from external power from that plug which is all you really need like Emmbeedee said.
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    If he does that, he'll become a serial killer!
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    Or Hunting Nema? :D
  9. Countdown

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    Never thought of that problem! Just make sure you dispose of them in a place where no one will ever find them.
  10. rickypanecatyl

    rickypanecatyl SE Asia adventure tours

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    Your right on with with that countdown :clap The only hope I have of Garmin pulling their heads out of their butts is if they realize we the consumers care.

    Emmbeedee you are often really helpful with software issues and I'm grateful for that. At the same time I do wonder if you are not employed by Garmin to help protect their image. That is just asinine to say the only reason people prefer the 60 over the 62 is that it familiar. For one, how does a serious dirt bike rider on a vibrating thumper even use the 62; it's not in the same category. Just like the 60, both my 62's screen shut down from vibration after 50 miles or so. The 60 shuts down faster BUT it has solutions - taping the battery lid is more effective on it. Of course you don't have to run the 60 on batteries anyways - you run it on the rugged 4 pin connector.
    Hard core guys do not have that option on the 62; using the mini USB will wreck the unit. When the screen goes out; it goes out. For hard core riders that can be a chunk of the day.

    Screen is softer, software is more nannyish... great if you are a predictable clone... not so good if you do things different. Rubber sides fall apart much quicker, doing most everything the 60 does well requires more steps on the 62.

    Of course it has it's advantages. But it is definitely not a clear winner in every category. On both my 62's - original and replacement after the original broke real fast :lol3, the 3 axis compass is horribly inaccurate... great idea - just it didn't work.
    I love having 2,000 waypoints vs 1,000 but I'm over 2,000 now and the 62 is insane... it says nothing when I mark a new point, it randomly picks another way point to delete without telling me which one. I haven't figured out yet if there is a rhyme or reason to it.

    The 62 took some steps forward but mostly went backwards for the "hard core" category it is in.
    If you ride a twin, never in the rain, are pretty predictable, don't know your actual heading so believe the 62's you probably think it is an improvement in every way.
    In my opinion the 62 fits somewhere between the 60 and the typical cell phone gps apps. Phones are usually much prettier, fancier and less rugged.

    Actually how the new generation compares with the one it replaced is probably one of the more relevant topics for people interested in these models.
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    I don't disagree - go ahead and create the topic if it interests you.
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    Ricky, You may already know all the options but you may want to look at my web site for set up tips on 62/78. http://www.dualsportwest.com/ I think I have them as close to 60/76 as possible.

    Don't know why you would even consider a 62 on a dirt bike with the 78 having 12 V. Don't have any hours on 78 yet so don't know reliability.
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    This is my opinion as well.

    The 62/78 NEEDS a bigger screen. When they decided to dither the fonts on that already tiny screen, now the letters lost a lot of the sharpness and they're even more difficult to read. The blocky indicator font looks cool and futuristic and all, but again, it's a lot harder to read than a clear, bold number. Fixing what isn't broken, or something.

    The amount of menus and keypresses to do the basic stuff is insane. If I wanted to dedicate my attention to a GPS just to use it, I'd use my phone. The big reason I use a GPS is because I can thumb through the pages and get the info I want without too much work, and in many cases without looking at the screen till the info I want is up.
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    You do realize that just like the 60/76, you can add and remove screens and change the order they're in, so you only see the ones you want, in the Classic profile?
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    Try deleting a waypoint.

    Yes, I'm well aware of "page sequence" and "ribbon off".
    The Profiles are just a collection of settings; but you're right, switching to "classic" sets the display to grid-of-12-menu and no-ribbon. It doesn't fix the broken UI though.
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    Whatever.
  18. rickypanecatyl

    rickypanecatyl SE Asia adventure tours

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    Emmbbeedee I'm just curioius - do you work with Garmin in any way? Nothing wrong with that of course but it would be helpful to know...


    You're very knowledgeable and helpful with your knowldege. But you do cover for/defend their weak areas. My concern in that is it may lessen Gammin's motivaton to make an actually better product and instead focus their resources on convincing customers a lesser product is better than it really is.
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    No, I don't have anything to do with Garmin, aside from liking many of their products.

    And I don't believe there's anything "lesser" about the basic gps units, if they're used for their intended purposes.

    IE, none of the 62/78/60/76 series is a motorcycle gps, so if you use one on your motorcycle, then it may or may not do well for you.

    That's why my main gps these days is a Montana.
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