The Official RT Thread

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Hondo, Apr 28, 2010.

  1. Jim-Mer

    Jim-Mer Slowing Down

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    Hmmm. I loved my Z6's. 7,000 was about what I would get out of my K12RS, but it was a lot heavier, would expect more on the RT.

    Thanks for the input.

    Jim
  2. roadstar

    roadstar Been here awhile

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  3. Kerfuffle

    Kerfuffle Mostly Harmless

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    I keep thinking that the "perfect" bike for me (prob not for everyone else....) would be the RT with the ST1300's V4 - reliable, powerful, smooth. After 4 days on a rented RT (ride report in the works), I have to say the weakness of the bike - for me - is the engine. Everything else is really good.
  4. ka5ysy

    ka5ysy Doug

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    You basically just described the K1300GT. Give that a try. Nobody would describe it as "weak" :clap
  5. CrustyAPO

    CrustyAPO Been here awhile

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    I have the Z8's on my '08 RT and I love them. I have only had them on the bike for about 2000 miles. When leaned over in a turn they are rock steady.
  6. Kerfuffle

    Kerfuffle Mostly Harmless

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    You know, I tried the K1300GT and really liked it. My first words after shutting down the bike were "Yeehaw, Cowboy" (I was in Ft. Worth). I don't think I'm going to pursue one because my license would be in constant jeopardy. :evil Other downsides are that the fairing just doesn't work as well as the RT and the engine has that inline-4 vibe to it. But man, that combination of engine and suspension is so well hooked up yet civilized ....
  7. Jim-Mer

    Jim-Mer Slowing Down

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    CrustyAPO, the feeling of uncertaintly in turns, especially on tar snakes, is why I want to get rid of th OEM Bridgestones. You never really feel planted in the corners. I'll give up some tire life for stability and better handling.

    Kerkuffle, I test rode a K1300GT when I was trying to make up my mind, and I really liked the bike. However I had just come off a last year K12RS, and knew the K1300GT was going to be discontinued too. I've followed the history of the current 1200 / 1300 series at i-bmw.com and have to say BMW did not do a very good job engineering out the problems before they introduced it. Lots of problems with transmissions, fuel mapping, switchgear failures, etc. etc.

    Lets hope they do a better job with the new watercooled boxer.

    Jim
    Canton, OH
  8. ka5ysy

    ka5ysy Doug

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    I hear you about the license and fairing:

    First time I took out the K13, I did my usual run along River Road south of Baton Rouge. I kept getting calls on the cell and decided to see who was calling and discovered that I needed to head back to the office instead of playing :cry.

    I cut across to I-10 below Gonzales, La. and headed back north and was cruising along in the zone. After about 5 minutes the thought came to me "why is everyone going so slow on the interstate today", at which point I looked at the speedometer and was shocked to see 110 on the clock :eek1. Quickly I reduced speed and set the cruise at 70 to avoid attracting too much attention :D

    A couple of weeks later the SO wanted to try the bike, and within 5 minutes she vetoed it because the turbulence was beating her to death. I was told to go back to the dealership "slowly" !

    RT ended up being the way better choice for us. :clap
  9. Firenailer

    Firenailer just passin' thru

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    Hey Jim Mer -

    I mentioned my dislike for the Bridgestones over in another thread, and a lot of us have the same feeling about them. I've been riding for 45 of my 54 years and I think they're the most squirrelly tire I've ever been on. Some other guys seem to love them though. Mileage seems to vary from 3000 to 10000 depending on who is posting, with one guy swearing that they're rock solid great tires..

    Either way, I really do hate them, and will be installing Michelin P3's when I get the 6000 mile service done in a couple of weeks. I don't know anyone with the Metzlers so I can't help you there.
  10. Budman

    Budman Been here awhile

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    Ive had the Z6 and Z8 on my RTs. My K1600GTL came with Z8 and only lasted 6000 miles. I went to the Michelin PT3 and put another 5500 on them before I sold the bike and went back to the RT. They looked new when I sold the bike. When these Bridgestones are worn out on the new RT I will replace them with the PR3. It was very smooth on the GTL and great in the rain. I had always used Metezlers on my bikes but am now a Michelin convert.

    Bud
  11. k12lts

    k12lts Been here awhile

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    I've had the Z8 tires on my 09 RT for about 4000 miles and they are the best I've had for a long time. They replaced some pretty worn PR2s that had about 10k on them.

    The ride is great and handling is perfect. At 4000 the rear is just starting to show wear and the front looks like new.
  12. Jim-Mer

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    All the feedback seems very positive, that will be my next set of skins!

    Thanks for the info...

    Jim
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  13. JBADV

    JBADV searching for sanity

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    Talked with Jim At Max BMW about my bike.It seems that the fuel pump was on the way out,they found brass in the fuel tank under the pump.So hopefully that will be the end of that problem.I'm going to pick it up tomorrow.
  14. Kerfuffle

    Kerfuffle Mostly Harmless

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    And let me clarify - I wouldn't say the RT's engine is weak in that it lacks enough power (although... is there ever enough :D), but the rest of the bike is so good, the vibration of the engine - particularly under full throttle - is the weakest link on the bike IMHO. Everything else is just so good - riding position / ergos, fairing, storage, controls, handling, gas mileage ...
  15. Emperor Norton

    Emperor Norton Kilroy was here

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    What speed/rpm were you when the vibes were bad?
  16. JoeyBones

    JoeyBones Encouraging Entropy

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    As proof positive that everyone is indeed different, it was the mechanical feel of the engine that first attracted me to BMW R bikes. I don't find it buzzy at all, and think the engine lends the bike it's animal magnetism.
  17. Kerfuffle

    Kerfuffle Mostly Harmless

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    Well... I will say that this was a rental bike that was overdue for service, so it might need a TB sync. The engine seemed best between 3500 and about 5000 rpm. I was probably running the RPMs too low in the range. Vibes weren't bad per se, but they were really noticeable under throttle under about 3500. I would cruise in 5th in the 55 and 60 mph zones to keep the buzziness down. The F bike is happy at lower revs and gets worse above 5000 RPM, so I tend to keep revs lower. Mileage was still good at 52 average over 900 miles.

    Having said all this, I get hand numbness sometimes after lots of riding my F658GS (particularly off-roading) and I feel pretty good after 4 days on the RT. So perhaps the engine is not that mentally pleasing, but the body seems OK with it. It just feels rough after having ridden the K1300GT, ST1300 and FJR, but there was a noticeable absence of the high-frequency vibes that the GT and FJR gave off. Riding position of the RT was excellent and no doubt helped the hands.

    At the end of the day, the RT seems to be the best package for me, and that's what really matters.
  18. Bikebits

    Bikebits Scramblin' man

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    I'm 100% on board with that. I've never ridden a multi that I liked as much as a good twin or single. I find multis too automotive in terms of character. My RT and Scrambler both have just enough "rumble" to remind you they're bikes, but not enough to cause any discomfort.
  19. JBADV

    JBADV searching for sanity

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    How many miles on the rental ? And what year is it ?
  20. CrustyAPO

    CrustyAPO Been here awhile

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    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I got my '08 back in July with 1200 miles on it and it still had the OE tires on it. I had picked up a set of Z8's for my Rockster (the tires were whupped), but decided to put the Z8's on the RT instead and swapped the old RT tires onto the Rockster. I didn't have alot of miles on the stock RT tire, but they seemed pretty stable at speed and in the corners. But the Z8's were the "latest technology" in tires so I put them on the bike I would be riding more. I do notice they get a little squirrley on tar snakes, but that can be said of almost any tire. Going straight down the road, sometimes I notice a slight weave, might be wind induced or I'm just limp-wristing the bars. But in the corners I have yet to feel any untoward handling, even at speed. All in all I am happy with them. I will have to see how many miles I get out of them before I make my final judgment. I did notice when checking the tread face, that I am scuffing off half of the Metzler Elephant.[/FONT]