The Perfect Thumper ?? Tell us Why Your bike is Da Bomb

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by wiswoodsguy, Apr 24, 2012.

  1. wiswoodsguy

    wiswoodsguy Kmart shopper

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    I read tons of threads that spew of everyones problems with their bikes. I get that - this forum has solved many a problem for all the bikes I own (even some I dont own .......YET !!) - which makes this a great place to reap the bennies of the plethora of knowledge that so many of theses peeps toss around. And it seems that there is a thread in here for just about every bike known to man - I get that too, as it makes it easier to single out a model for specific info.

    Lately, what I have been seeing is a lot of people searching for "The Perfect Bike". I can and will say that it doesnt exist - but there are many bikes that check off most of the boxes of the needs that many people crave. Each one of us is distinctly different in many ways - very complex if you will - which simply states that one bike may not be the best choice for the next guy. So instead of having threads that only points out the plusses/minuses of a single breed - lets have a thread that one can turn to too gain as much intel as we can share. Then they can go off to the individual thread for more insight.

    There are soo many bikes out there that I have no idea what they are about - but truly want to know more about them. So I guess here is the place that you can spout off a little factoid about your current steed. Give as much detail as you want - spew the highlights and dismal lowlights of what you ride. Remember that this is going to be a thread that people will want to read to sort out their confusion - or maybe add a different bike to the current wish list.


    Of course Pics are great too - so post up one that shows it off the best.
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  2. wiswoodsguy

    wiswoodsguy Kmart shopper

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    Guess I will start it off with my new to me 09 690 R

    Im a little partial to the Orange fleet - but very open to hearing about all the others out there

    690R:
    (I have little seat time on this bike - only clocked 358 miles soo far - so my opinion is a little lacking)

    Great: Power for a single thump is off the charts - couldnt be happier in that dept. Crank on the right side twisty gizmo thingy and happiness will come to any and all. Keeps apullin till you let up. My 5'11" frame found peace with the ergos once I set it up for myself - but Im still a little short for the bike (more on that later) - seating placement is superb

    Good: Handling is very good, but I have to knock it down a stitch because of the steering locks - gives you limited range. While this doesnt effect you as much when moving, it does impair you in tighter situations and trying to turn around. Other than that - it handles very well. Suspension is of course true KTM (with linkage YAY) - but for those that run Orange - we know that they are quite stiff. I have found my happy place - but it would probably be tons better if I had it reworked for my personal needs.

    Dismal: THE SEAT SUCKS ASS. or should I call it a brick to sit on. No comfort will come from this butt wedgie slab of concrete. I will be replacing this with an aftermarket one of some sorts. The weight of the bike is a little hard to swallow if you are coming off a lightweight woods burner - but one would find it feathery if you are switching from a beefier chunk. Unfortunately, I am comparing it to my 520 EXC - the extra tonnage is noticeable - but Im learning to deal with it. If I were coming off a XR 650L for example - I think I would be in heaven. And of course the steering is limited - blame it on the trellis frame and move on.

    Im sure I can come up with more - but I have to leave a little room for others to corrupt the minds of others

    I'll report on my 520 EXC a little later - got more seat time on that rascal and is one of my true loves
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  3. JimR

    JimR Been here awhile

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    Why my bike is perfect for ME! First off, things I don't do; I do not ride "off road", some might confuse this with "off pavement", my GF and I (my GF also has a F650GS that was lowered from the factory) regularly ride dirt and gravel roads, fire breaks, gas/well roads. We consider any place a road grader/bulldozer has been and made a somewhat smooth place in the ground, a road. Trails, single tracks, whoop's, and "bark busters" and deep sand are not in our vocabulary. When we head out to a destination we attempt to use a paved road, but we will not let a dirt/gravel road deter us. Now for the fine points.

    * The perfect commuter. I have a one way 45 mile commute with a mixed bag of single lane county roads, two lane state highway, and four lane limited access divided highway (AKA, the super slab). I haul quite a bit of gear in the factory luggage including a sizable lunch. If I keep my hand out of the throttle I will be rewarded with close to 70 mpg. The heated hand grips are welcome in the morning. (I work third shift and leave the house at about 10pm)

    * The perfect adventure bike. We have taken a 21 day trip to California, a two week trip to Colorado, a two week trip to Montana and Wyoming, two day trips to Lake Erie, and two three day trips down to Deal's Gap in North Carolina/Tennessee, all departures are from the central Ohio area, and NO towing the bikes. The bikes will cruise all day long at 80 mph over loaded with camping gear, clothes, spares, tools, and some food, and still have plenty of extra power to pass. We have rode over all of the above listed road surfaces. When we get to Deal's Gap we strip off all of the luggage, including the tank bag, and hit the "Dragon" hard. The machine does well in the twisties. Fully loaded and fueled and keeping a reasonable speed will get us a range of between 225-250 miles. We generally do 450 mile days.

    * The perfect two upper. When the GF (dripping wet @ 130 lbs) doesn't feel like piloting her own machine we crank the pre-load knob on the shock all the way clock wise, throw the rain suits and clothes bag in the luggage and roll. And still have more than enough power. Her chief complaint in the back is when I'm at a constant 80mph her tush gets a little hot. BTW, I weigh in at 230 lbs. BTW, all ice cream runs are two up.

    *The build quality over all is quite good, especially the welds on the frame. The engine, IMHO, is "Bullet Proof". 50hp from a 652cc single cylinder thumper is pretty awesome in my book. My first car had a 1500cc four banger and got a whopping 36hp new from the factory. Oh to own another VW!

    *Internet support from this website and others is awesome. There are also about a billion aftermarket items/up grades/parts for this bike.

    There is no doubt that an experienced, confident rider with a decent set of off pavement tires could ride this machine just about any where. We however, know our limitations, our strengths and weaknesses and stay off of the single track trails and sand. We have been in deep sand twice and the machines simply sink. Must dismount and "walk" the bike out using clutch/throttle. Now for the bad news.

    *The Price, $7,500 base and then loaded up with all of the goodies $10K out the door, that was in June of 2006. I though at the time that that was a tad steep. After I got to know the bike a little more I'm O.K. with the price.

    *The Weight. She's a little tubby at 425 lbs wet before rider and luggage.

    *The "Stealership". A full blown tune up/service with a new fuel filter will be close to...........$750. I do all of my own wrenching and a full blown tune without the fuel filter runs me about $60. $90 an hour for labor at the "Stealership" and usually something is wrong when I get the bike back.

    *The Parts. O.E.M. parts from the "Stealership" are astronomical. The above listed fuel filter runs about $125. I attempt to use after market parts or scrounge the web looking for deals. The fuel filter is also the fuel pressure regulator.

    *The Getting Dirty. If you want to do a simple task like changing the oil, you must remove 18 screws just to get the fairing off. Servicing the machine can be complicated and time consuming. Just to check the valve clearances takes quite a while, and if they are out of spec' the cam shafts have to come out, the shim is under the bucket. I enjoy wrenching on the machine and at the end of the riding season a get all of my parts and a nice cigar and make a day of it in the garage. There are others that do not like to or do not want to take the time to service this machine because of its time consuming and complicated servicing techniques.

    *The Battery. My machine to date has NEVER left me stranded. Having just made that bold statement I am sure I will be broken down on the side of the road shortly. The battery is the weak link with this machine. If it is not fully charged and in good condition it will not start the bike and you will NOT be able to "push start" it. The computer, the fuel injecter and the fuel pump and the starter need a strong battery. Where the battery is placed on the machine is brutal. It sits right on top of the cylinder head, just behind the radiator, and next to the oil tank. It gets quite a bit of heat and usually over time will evaporate the water in the flooded type batteries. But no one really likes to peel off all of those aforementioned panels just to check the water level of the battery. I did get a full five riding seasons out of my O.E.M. I have replaced it with another wet cell. I'm fairly anal about checking the water level. If you drop this bike onto its side there is enough force for the battery vent tube to separate from the battery and acid will run down the side of the bike etching the engine case and causing corrosion. If not addressed it will mar the appearance. Most folks, as soon as the O.E.M. battery is shot, replace it with a "gel cell" or similar type battery that does not have the flooded cells. I simply use a tiny zip tie to hold the vent tube in place.

    *The Water Pump. My water pump is original and has not to date given me any problems. There are however, a great many folks who have replaced their low mileage water pumps time and again and continue to have problems. Not sure what those issues are but they do exist.

    *The Steering Head Bearings. The guy in Berlin at the factory must make some sort of a bonus on how much grease he saves each day because I can tell you, no has ever said of these bikes, "Oh, my bearings had plenty of grease". My steering head bearings were shot a 36K miles and have heard of some wearing out at 16K miles. When I disassembled mine there was no indication that any grease had ever been applied. Again, that area gets alot of heat from the engine and radiator and I think if you sit in traffic for extended periods the grease just melts off. Once replaced with a new set of SKF and wheel bearing grease with a drop temp. 450 degrees all has been well.

    Those are the three most common items in IMHO, I'm sure others will add to the list of woes.


    My machine is a 2006 BMW F650GS that came from the factory lowered. I have since raised it to the standard height and have rebuilt the forks, have had a rear shock rebuilt (thanks Jay!), replaced three sets of chains and sprockets, and it is now on its fourth set of tires and tubes and its second battery and second set of brake pads. Have had to actually adjust three of the valves once, and it has had ten oil/filter changes and it's on its fifth air filter. It currently has 55K miles and can see no reason why it won't make 100K.

    Regards, Jim
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  4. wiswoodsguy

    wiswoodsguy Kmart shopper

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    Nice write up Jim !!



    My collection at this point consists of 3 bikes: the 09 690R, 02 250EXC(smoker), and my first KTM a 01 520 EXC
    I consider this to be the best trio of bikes to fit my particular needs perfectly. I ride everything from roads to mx tracks to hare scrambles and all points in between - whatever trouble this 41yo can get into on a motorbike. Im not a fast rider by any means - just have a deep rooted passion to go out and twist the throttle in many dirt orientated genres. Because Im not swift, I dont have the desire to own the latest and greatest - consider me the bike recycler. Keeps the cost low and keeps me happy runnin some slightly older iron(or plastic in this case)

    This brings me to the beginning of a beautiful relationship - IE the KTM 520 EXC. For those of you that dont know what this particular bike is, its basically a street legal race bike. Throw a set of lights and a plate on your MX bike and call it good. KTM designed these bikes to travel from trail to trail on public roads legally - some call them 80/20 bikes (80% off road/20% road use) Imagine how nervous you would be riding your current race dinger down the interstate - trying not to allure the attention of Johnny Law - makes ya feel kinda naughty right ??? Thats just how I feel when Im at the helm of this bike.( But I kinda like that feeling)

    I would love to find one single word to describe how I feel when I climb aboard this bike - but I cant. I will do my best to describe my euphoria with this particular mount - those that already have one(or similar) may feel the same - others crave even more. I guess you gotta be an off roadie to understand as this wagon sees very little pavement in my adventures.

    First off - she's a big bird - those with a inseam of less than 30 will struggle immensely on this horse. Why do cool dirtbikes have to be sooo frickin tall ??? - but I guess anyone could alter them to fit their size if needed. I did purchase a Moose med/soft seat to handle that task - can touch the ground at least now. Go ahead now and hit the button - yeah thats right - she's got a button, how cool is that ???? Get yourself in a sticky uphill situation and you will thank the designer for adding that magic button. Course it has a kicker for those that want to remain cool with the other bro's - cant remember if I even used mine yet. From the moment you fire it up and blip the throttle a few times - you associate this bike with the equivalence to a big block Chevy - you just know its got some ponies. Hop aboard - grab the Hydro clutch (like butta man) - and click the first cog. She comes off as mild mannered deviant - just taunting you to climb the RPM's a little higher to show you what its really hiding beneath the sheets - heres where the smiles start happening uncontrollably. GOBs of torque from this large one lunger - lets you see Jesus in the first 4 gears at any given moment - just remember to hang on and all will be good. Sounds like a lot - but you can also timidly crawl thru a tight sticky woods section with the greatest of ease. Thats what I love about this bike is the controllable power - nice all around hit but will play nice nice when needed - its called throttle control I think. My suspenders were dolled up at Slavens - perfect for my weight and riding style - so absolutely no complaints there. Handling is point and shoot - here again she's dialed in for my old mannish needs(remember I aint no pro) My controls are simple and basic - no frills here - no blinkers(legal hand signals) - no horn (it is required thou) - just a speedo to keep me in check with the state required limits.

    I have used this bike for everything but hitting the highway (I have heard that some do use it for this purpose) - raced a HS or two - tight woods - MX track - big hills - goat trails - leisure fire lane cruising - and even the jaunts on the roads to different trails. It fits the bill everywhere but the road for me - thats where I feel its adequate, but really nervous. Doesnt handle the best on the road due to my tire choice - but that can be changed. It can and will sit at 55 all day if needed - so I wouldnt be afraid of some short non-city commutes when necessary - she aint no stop light to stop light bike.

    Its the do it all bike that everyone craves - but its a little lacking in the road dept (at least for me it is)

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  5. JKL

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    I have a 2010 Husaberg FE450 with a few goodies that works well for me.

    It is a great single track bike that handles amazing for its 250 lbs weight due to the FI motor with map switch for different conditions.
    It takes me a little over half an hour to put on 17" supermoto wheels with slicks and I can get away from big street bikes in the twisties.:D

    Of course it is not a long distance bike, but it is easy to haul to where there is good riding!
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  6. OrangeYZ

    OrangeYZ Been here awhile

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    I'll play. My perfect bike is nearly the same as wiswoodsguy's first KTM, a 2007 KTM 450 EXC. Got it two years ago and it was the direct replacement to a plated XR600R. Previous owner put a 540 big bore kit in it, so it pretty much runs like a diesel.

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    It does everything that I want to on a motorcycle, and it does most of it awesomely. It does singletrack mountain trails to off road racing to regular dual sporting (if anyone can agree what that means). It could do something long like an Alaska trip if I forced it, but I have a KLR so luckily it didn't have to. Yes, I own a KLR and would not choose it as my one perfect bike.

    The internet tells me that maintenance is constant and unbearable. I can't deny that it has tighter schedules than the KLR or something similar, but fuck them it's worth it. If I want to ride some trails that are on the other end of 200 miles of slab, I'll truck it and take some cold beer while I'm at it.
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  7. itsatdm

    itsatdm Long timer

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    Here's mine. Maybe because I am old, I like older bikes which means Japanese. They were reliable and easy to fix for some one not up to speed on all the electronics of modern bikes.

    A 1995 Kawasaki KLX650c
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    They came in two versions, off road and dual sport like above. They were sold 93-96 along side the KLR. Don't know why they did not replace the KLR except they cost $1,000 more. You know what they say about KLR riders.

    People get the two confused but they are entirely different. 43mm USD forks, dual pot front brakes, perimeter frame to mention a few. The engine is different also, though it has some KLR parts in it. They include the valves, carb, filters, sprockets. Maybe the transmission and clutch. Enough to make some parts available to keep them running. Kawasaki did leave out the dohicky. This bike's balancer is gear driven.

    Stock, they make more HP than the typical Japanese thumper and have better suspension with more travel than most bikes of that era.

    This one has a 678cc big bore, with a forged piston from Wossner. Another method is a piston from a Kawasaki vulcan 1500 engine. A KLR big bore will not work. It also has a DRZ400 rear shock and slightly shorter dog bones. Together I have 11.25" and 12.25" travel front and rear. The only short coming is fuel capacity. Mine has a 5 gal tank good for about 200 miles to reserve. Unfortunately only found used now.

    A heavy beast at 390# with gas, it is still lighter than a KLR or F650.

    Neither me or the bike is up to single track. It is my wide open spaces bike. Handles and goes very well. Just the thing for a lot of western US dirt.

    Surprisingly these bikes show up fairly regularly. New riders do not know about them and most assume parts are not available. Most of us that own them know what a great bike they are.

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  8. BigSingle

    BigSingle Been here awhile

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    Like you said perfect depends on what your looking for. For me it was do everything no exceptions.

    1K mile days, 10,000ft alt. drift blasting, crazy single track, mud, water, rocks, etc. while roaming NM and now FL.

    What led me to this? almost 30 years riding all kinds of chit. My next bike had to do it all no exceptions.

    So I started looking

    KTM's are fast but.....everyone that owns one also owns something else they can ride when it's broke or waiting for parts.

    BMW's are expensive but......some of them actually look really nice and all of them love to fall over and play dead when they see something scary.

    DR650 didn't have liquid which I wanted

    DRZ400 just a little too small for the big trips

    KLR650 been here forever, parts are found virtually everywhere, literally :lol3. Holds lots of gas for long trips, can be setup for anything you can do on a motorcycle and then some. Will go off road if you choose and can be ridden pretty fast. Anyone that doubts this has never ridden with the more skilled/crazy klr riders. If given enough berth in the corners it will keep up with just about anything considering its 400+lbs of 20 year old tech. Plus if it's good enough for the Marines it's good enough for me. :deal

    Basically it had everything I wanted and left me room to tinker with it. Another drawback on the KTM's is that ya can't really screw with em which I like to do. They're already wound tighter than a crackhead drinking redbull. Then you might as well buy an RMX250 or KDX200 and own the woods.

    Below is a little story from the KLR Ownership thread found here http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=18524403#post18524403


    The KLR Owner

    I ripped and I bashed, and I went real fast
    I tore that shit up, as I burned through the gas

    I started to age, and I learned a great truth
    There IS more to riding, then just throwing roost

    So I bought a new bike, with one purpose in mind
    I wanted to ride, not wrench all the time

    You wrench all week long, to ride for one day
    I hop on and start it, my rides under way

    You get your parts, from places unknown
    I find Walmarts number, and pick up the phone

    When you run out of gas, I tow your ass home
    I filled up last week, so get some gas and lets go

    The point of this story, I'm bored and it's funny
    I'm online shopping, with my sweet KLR money

    I've spent more on farkles, than I paid for my wife
    It's not my commuter, it's my way of life.

    But as stated many times before and probably again perfect depends on what your going to do with it once you have it. Test ride, research, borrow, rent whatever. When ya know what you want buy it.
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  9. Barman

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    I've owned KLR's and XLR's, both fun bikes and have their good and bad points as all do but would I go back? Doubtful
    And the 690 is the only bike I currently own....:deal


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  10. BigSingle

    BigSingle Been here awhile

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    Very very nice and I'm sure a blast to ride, curious though what is the biggest tank you can get? Ya know in case your 100mi from anywhere with 1/2 tank left. Seriously curious cause reminds of an Duc monster I once knew's off road cousin.

    curious cause that is one of the few bikes I've never ridden and I do really like the way it looks.
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  11. Duken4evr

    Duken4evr Been here awhile

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    Ooooh. Those 690s look sweet indeed.

    '10 Husaberg FE450 here. It is the "perfect" serious trail bike for a vet class B level old guy :rofl

    Smooth motor, both power wise and vibration wise. The FI is always right on the money, regardless of my ever changing elevations here in Colorado. It steers very lightly, craves nasty rocky single track, does sick wheelies and has a gear in the box for every occasion. I love the thing.

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  12. RobbieO

    RobbieO Muskokatard

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    Easy....because I can actually touch the ground.:lol3

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    Because it's good in the dirt.....

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    Because I can haul shit around with it.....

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    Oh, ya........cuz it does this!!!

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  13. madisonreid

    madisonreid Long timer

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    Oh, ya........cuz it does this!!!

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  14. RobbieO

    RobbieO Muskokatard

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    Thank you!

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  15. Barman

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    Rally Raid makes two kits, one for the front and a tank for the rear. Safari sells a kit as well. With the 3.4 gallons already on board there's plenty of options for range. For now I carry a 1 gallon Rotopax for emergencies. Being on the east coast though there isn't much distance between fuel stops.
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  16. kmequint

    kmequint Adventurer

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    Here's my old school steed....All I can say just enough power to do what I want, easy to ride, easy to maintain, easy to repair..:deal

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    Wrong year but close enough :evil

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  17. wiswoodsguy

    wiswoodsguy Kmart shopper

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    MAN I love those Bergs !! Great looking bike

    I need to ride one to compare it to my 520 - probably not too much different, if at all seeing is they is all KTM too - but they do look Sexy. I also like the Ape 5.5 and the Beta's - Loves me sum expensive euro dirtbikes :lol3
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  18. astrolump

    astrolump Been here awhile

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    01 klr 650 for me.
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    it can go wherever i care to take it, from twistys to singletrack.

    I can always pick it up when i take it somewhere i shouldn't have.

    it has just about as much power as i have skill....i would be over my head with a ktm 690 in the dirt, and im trying to go slower and see more anyway. too many of my past trips were just a blurr of trees. i just rode the tet and tet-s from Albany to Miami...a 3k+ mile trip and i have like 3 memories. i was just going too fast..not stopping enough. too busy going fast and trying not to fly off into the scenery.

    I can fix it...all of it....though ive never had to...it just keeps on putting.

    its like a lego bike...i add stuff, take it off, add other stuff...i enjoy that.

    when it dies...ill just pick up another for 2k and transplant all the good bits on it and away i go.
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  19. Duken4evr

    Duken4evr Been here awhile

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    Ah, the '83 XL600. To this day I think the early XLs are the best Japanese dual sport ever made. Able to cruise easily on the highway, quite competent off road, and bombproof reliable. Due to the time of my life I owned it (mid 20s, single, carefree punk) my '83 XL600 was probably the most fun bike I have ever owned. A few pics then, from the way back machine!

    Said earlier the 'Berg does sick wheelies? Nothing compared to the XL. Solid and perfectly controllable power and perhaps aided by the fact I was a crazy young punk. Did 5 gear mono jobs on that thing, literally for miles :evil Funny factoid though, the current 'Berg responds better to stand up wheelies, while the XL was good to go just sitting down, with an easy to monitor balance point. Quite sure that even though it has been almost 25 years, given a 15 minute reacclimation time, I could still ride wheelies for miles on a good running XL600 :)

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    Most pics of me on my XL have the front end in the upright and locked position. We just rolled that way!

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    Mods to the XL consisted of an XR500 suspension (longer travel, gotten from a completely blown up donor bike) and a Supertrapp muffler. Did something with the twin carbs too - bent the tang so they basically opened together. This made for barkier low end wheel lifting response. It had 40K miles on it when I sold it. Never a single problem of note. Always ran synthetic oil as the engine has minimal finning and is a hot runner, but other than that, just ordinary maintenance and no special care. I rode the hell out of that thing and it earned my respect and admiration. Bought it for $1,200 back then with maybe 3,500 miles and sold it for $800 with 40K miles. Good times...
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  20. Unstable Rider

    Unstable Rider Moto Fotografist

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    There is no right or wrong answer to the original post. It's subjective.

    "ride what you have" comes to mind. Or, ride what's "paid for".

    The KLR is my select-choice of affordable donkey-two wheeled jeep "crap moving device"

    Not a precision instrument. It's the home made hammer of motor bikes. The tool you grab when you dont want to scratch something nice. It's unsophisticated (spelling?) and I like that.

    If it was in a cigarette advertisement, I would select it because it fits my personality, and it makes me smile.


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