The Pine Sol Degreaser Thread

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Hondo, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. Tech23

    Tech23 Been here awhile

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    Get two jars and a paint strainer funnel or make one of your own using either a paper towel or sheet of paper rolled into a funnel shape. Without shaking it up slowly pour it through the strainer a few times and see if it cleans up if it does then pour the Pine Sol down the drain.

    Tech23
  2. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

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    Pine-sol is supposedly safe for household drain disposal - their literature even says its Okay for septic. I'd flush with lots of water.

    If the oil/grease can be separated, I would and dispose of the sludge separately probably as solid waste, but otherwise, I'd just flush it down the drain. After all, it is a general-purpose household cleaner used to cut through grease/grime and hold the oils in suspension. You flush small amounts of grease down the drain every time you wash your dishes.

    I doubt any household recycling program would be interested in the stuff. The places that sell oil are not going to want it either.

    - Mark
  3. squiffynimrod

    squiffynimrod maximum shrinkage

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    Yes, but that grease is cooking grease not dino juice. I'm going to go with the straining method and see how it goes.
    Thanks guys.
  4. mikesova

    mikesova Michigander

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    So, I didn't read the whole thread. Is it ok to soak the entire carb, floats, gaskets, diaphram, and all, or is that going to damage something?

    I have a set of carbs where the butterflies are so gunked that they won't move. I would like to just set the whole set in pine sol to soak.

    Am I OK in doing this, or is it a bad idea?
  5. Mikeosoft

    Mikeosoft n00b

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    I tried this for the other bike, with awesome results :lol3

    Figured I'd document it this time.

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    i used the same pinesol strained through a paint diffuser i used last time. So that's why the color is grey and not amber.

    Carb before the treatment:
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    The plastic garbage bin i used, all metal parts prepped by removing any rubber or plastic.
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    I also made sure to throw in all the parts i had that were rusty and small enough, so the rear wheel nut went in there all rusty and black.
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    2 hours later:
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    12 hours later:
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    notice the black spray paint had melted off the carb!
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    another shot!


    Parts all removed, soaked in warm water and cleaned with a tooth brush, dried in the california sun in 5 min
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    That rusty gunked up nut is now fresh and ready for loctite!
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    after 12 hours of treatment, looks like i could have gone for 24, but it's just the exterior and i don't want the carb to stand out from the rest of the dirty scooter too much!
  6. bumbeen

    bumbeen Banned

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    So I am soaking some carbs in pine sol right now. And one of the slide needles turned black after 15 hours, the other slide needle stayed silver color. What is up with that?

    Also the end of the needle did not turn black, only the larger diameter shaft portion did.
  7. ChromeSux

    ChromeSux Plated and screwed

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    It may be possible that the needle had plating that is worn off in that area, which may also be a sign that the needle needs to be replaced.
    The needle that did not turn may still have the plating intact.

    Just a guess, without seeing the needles it would be hard to tell.
  8. bumbeen

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    The black is also tacky feeling.

    http://imgur.com/nUbY9WJ
    http://imgur.com/Wxg800j
  9. ChromeSux

    ChromeSux Plated and screwed

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    The needle that is shiny, looks like i can see a line, about mid way where it has worn, if you run your fingernail over the line, can you feel it? if so it needs to be replaced.
  10. bumbeen

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    Damn! I didn't even realize they were worn at all they looked brand new to me. Stupid me uploaded it to a site I can't access at work so I will have to wait til I get home this evening to check it. The bike has about 5000 miles on it and it is a 2006. What would cause that line to be there? It's just a spring and a plastic slide touching it correct? I guess the jet touches it somewhere too but not that high up I think.

    I thought I was mistaken by taking the things apart in the first place because they looked super clean to me just seeing how much gunk was in them. Basically no gunk but I decided to go ahead and soak it all anyway.

    The issues this bike has been exhibiting, a 2006 ninja 250r, is that the idle will hang around 4k, intermittently, sometimes it idles around 1500 as it should. Also it will not stay running without the choke open a little bit, otherwise you have to feather the throttle to keep it going. Also say you're going down the highway at 70mph, that's about 8500k rpm, and then you pull the clutch in and close the throttle, it dies immediately. I know there's some circuit supposed to keep it from doing that but I don't know what it is....

    The battery is also in poor condition but enough to start it.
  11. Plaka

    Plaka Brevis illi vita est

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    On the Bing carbs used on airheads, I have found slide needles made of different materials. Some are steel, others are some light non-magnetic alloy.

    I would replace the needle (or mic. it with great care) if it is looking corroded.
  12. ben2go

    ben2go Moto Flunky

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    That is a sign of a partially clogged or blocked pilot circuit or jet.Jets are cheap.I just replace them if I start having issues.
  13. fastdadio

    fastdadio Still gettin faster

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    Also, The hanging, erratic idle is likely caused by the main jet being ovaled out and enlarged by the needle flopping around in there. Replace both jets and the needle.
  14. bumbeen

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    Damn you guys did see the bike only has 5000 miles on it right!? If you say this stuff has to be replaced I'll do it since I am no expert, but I am very surprised that it is bad after only 5k. My DR650 had about 18k on it and the carb was just fine on that sucker.

    And yeah, the idle is erratic, though I don't think I posted that. It will not stay steady but goes up and down up and down...
  15. mcma111

    mcma111 Long timer

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    Check for an air leak. Spray carb cleaner around the intake boot. If the RPM's rise you have/found your leak.
  16. ben2go

    ben2go Moto Flunky

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    It's not uncommon on those alloy needles to get scared up with low miles.I have seen it before.I have a GS5 that ate through them in 3300 miles.
  17. fastdadio

    fastdadio Still gettin faster

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    The BST40 on my LC4e will chow the slide, slide guide, needle and main jet every 5000 miles. It is a festering piece of shit. Never in all the bikes I've had have I ever seen anything like it. I have an FCR-39 sitting on the bench waiting for the time to install. :wink:
  18. fastdadio

    fastdadio Still gettin faster

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    ^^^^start with this^^^^ Also just as a general easy-quick check to make during routine maint. Have a fire extinguisher handy when you do this.:deal
  19. waikryder

    waikryder n00b

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    I did the same thing but then I out the kid on and put my dermal on top at about medium speed ,causes vibrations through the whole thing like a ultrasonic cleaner!
  20. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    In English please. :deal