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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Bongolia, Aug 6, 2009.
I got my 964 out today for the first time since my bike accident. It felt great. :)
+ 1 ,which would make it 2
Thanks for the info. I have the US-spec. M030 sport suspension on mine and it has the same ride height as the standard suspension - too high. Sounds like the H&Rs are a good option.
991 GT3 1st drive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVdme4ISq8Y
I never thought I'd say this... but I'm definitely warming up to the idea of owning a PDK car as a real alternative to a six speed, even in a 'drivers car' where honing skills is a key portion of the enjoyment.
I was at the track this past weekend in the 996 C2... As much as I enjoy challenging myself with blips, rev matching, and smooth gear changes when the car is being pushed, eliminating some of that workload still gives me more challenges than I can likely master. Perfect timing on gear changes, ideal lines and entry speeds, working off-line corrections after passing, perfect weight transfer, etc would keep me quite engaged while the PDK does flawless, rev-matched downshifts and lightening fast upshifts . There is no way I'd opt for anything so far from optimal as the tiptronic, but just as Porsche can implement PSM without being intrusive or detracting from a track day even without being switched off, so it seems they might have perfected clutch-pedal-less transmissions.
I've been thinking about the new Cayman with PDK. The GT3 is absurdly out of any possible Porsche budget in my future, so one advantage is I still would have a choice of six speed or PDK!
I keep thinking that a lightly optioned 2014 Cayman 'drivers car' would be sweet. Nothing but PDK, PASM, Sport Seats, Sports steering wheel. Done for under $60K MSRP. IMHO Porsche hit it out of the park with the styling on the new Cayman.
Would I rather have a 991 GT3? You betcha... Go Powerball!
For mere mortals who occasionally do track days, the above is one of the best options around, certainly. The Cayman chassis is so wonderfully communicative and well balanced that it's just a joy to drive. It has a "limit", but it has a long way past the "limit" that it's just slower, not a wreck. I mean you can certainly wreck one, but not as easily as you can wreck a 911 when you run out of talent, anyway. 911's are wonderful in their own way, but definitely require some additional skills that other cars just don't.
And yes, the PDK is a great option. I can sort of understand the "I'll never switch" crowd, but that crowd *will* get outrun by the PDK cars ultimately, too. But if you don't care about what is faster and just want "pure" (whatever that really means), I guess a manual it is. Me, I'll take whatever is faster, and now it's the PDK.
--Donnie, 400HP Cayman owner who has owned several 911's, too
I've no interest in car track days, but I am really seriously considering a Boxtser S for my idea of a "drivers" car.
Anyone care to talk me out of it?
Sorry, can't help you with that one. After driving the new redesigned 2013 981 Boxster S at the Porsche road show last year, it's on my bucket list. I'm hoping by the time I have the cashish saved up, the lease return 2013's are hitting the CPO'd market. No comparison between the old/new Boxster's, I must have the 981....
And, at our local PCA autocross, I watched a well driven PDK Boxster Spyder smoke most of the GT3 times I can't wait for the CPO 2013 Boxsters in a few years (I bought my '02 Boxster-S as a CPO with 18K miles, still smelling like a new car, for 60% of its original list).
Boxters are for girls .
I have owned 8 Porsches in my life and loved them all. But I never kept one longer than a year or so. Then I bought my CPO 2000 Boxster S in 2002 with 21k miles on it, factory turbo 18" wheels and loaded with every option needed, 11 years later and 89k miles, not one mech problem ever, and it drives like new. As for saying its a girl car you must have never driven one. The car handles way better than my 96 C4S, it is much faster and being so much lighter it stops better as well. Not much downside. For the money its a great car.
My next Porsche will be a Cayman S. What a car. :):):)
Good thing, I like girls....
The Boxster and Cayman are such perfect cars, I'm not even sure why the 911 exists.
Oh right, profits. I always forget about that piece.
Says the guy who probably has never driven the new Boxster S..... I drove the Boxster S and Carrera 4S (both PDK's in Sport+ mode)back to back on a road course, and the Boxster outhandled the 911 on every turn. Only on a long straight did the Carrera pull away..
I find it amazing that since the 986 Boxster S is so much better than a 993 C4s that they sell 1/4 the price of the older 993. Could you explain this to me?
While the Boxster is a fun little car it doesn't compare to a 993 in terms of quality and timeless beauty.
As you gentlemen might recall , he wanted to be talked out of a Boxter .
Well played sir , well played .