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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by notarex, Apr 4, 2009.
US Property 82G?
Color case hardening is a surface treatment to harden the surface or case. Makes sense, no?
It allows to surface to be hard (but becomes a little brittle), but keeps the inside metal soft so it doesn't shatter. It used to be done with a mixture of bone and wood charcoal paste spread on the metal, then placed into a high heat source, like a kiln. A byproduct was the nice colors, now associated with older guns. Some still use it just for the color effect.
Really, nothing to do with rust proofing, that's what the bluing is for. Bluing is actually a form of oxidation or surface rust of a kind put there to stop further rusting. Still requires oil or a substitute to keep from further rusting though.
Post a review of your new Bersa 22 please, I am considering buying one of these.
That Bersa is sweet. I would like to hear what you think about it also
I keep waiting for Ruger to make a .22 LCP so I can practice inexpensively.
Doesn't sem to be in the cards So maybe a Thunder .22 and .380 are the way to go. Anxiously awaiting an opinion. Especially if cheap ammo will cycle reliably.
me too. I love my Bersa 9mm, I could easily be talked into more Argentina-stuff
I'd love one just like in that pic. How much? Stainless please!
Do some reading up on the Bersa .22
I did and it scared me away from collecting it after buying one, got a refund instead. FTF, FTE, , picky about ammo, tight bore and leading...etc
Hope yours works well but I didn't want to take a $300 chance. Pity as I really like the looks of the gun.
Speaking of pistols, picked up this P22 from a friend yesterday.
Not fired much, with case, extra sights, extra mag (an extra mag goes for 100+ on Ebay! :huh) and 500rds of 22LR for 500 bucks. Bit on the higher side but he just had a baby so I didn't have a problem tossing him some extra $$. Plus, the money I will save at the range will pay for itself in no time.
The size is astounding. The little tab on the mag makes a huge difference, and no, my pinky does not fit on there all the way.
Put it next to my XD-40 for scale. Yeah, my 40 is an oily mess I know.
Prior to buying it, I did a range day with him, the P22 was unimpressive, averaging a jam/misfire every few shots. Upon reading, this is not uncommon with .22 semi-autos that are not target shooters. Most need a little dremel work and slight tweaks to function perfectly. I've already started the farkeling, and the gun was bone dry when I got it. :huh
I'm really enjoying the 22s with the current insanity. It's just too fooking expensive to shoot other calibers, and who knows when it will calm down, so I'm hoarding my larger stuff.
Not that .22 are that inexpensive anymore. I've read reports of $50, $60, up to $100 for a carton of 500 rounds right now.
Ya' think the days of $12-15 Walmart 525 round loose boxes of .22's are over or just awaiting the end of the madness? :huh
Just waiting IMO
Was just at Walmart on Friday and picked up two 333 boxes of LR for 15 bucks each and a box of 555 for 22 or something like that. After tax was OTD at 50 bucks.
Nice to know we can shoot the plinkers again up here
Sounds like my experience with the Neos. But people here seem to really like them. I bought a Neos 7.5 with the blue accents when they first came out, tried close to 20 different kinds of ammo and never could find one it liked.
I've owned one for years, and dealt with the jamming/FTF issues for years. It got so bad at one point I was just going to give up. I read the P22 bible and know a thing or two about guns, and debated doing some mods. But then I read a blurb about using a dry type lube instead of oil on the inner workings. I used some dri-slide and it transformed the pistol. I've done up to 500 rounds between cleanings with only 1-2 FTF's, but I generally clean and reapply dri-slide every couple hundred rounds.
I love the light weight and feel, but still it is a relatively low quality, not very accurate firearm. I recently purchased a 22/45 lite and installed a Volquartsen accurizing kit. The combination of superb feel, incredible accuracy, and the Ruger Mark series reputation for cycling nearly any ammo has relegated the P22 to a loaner pistol when I bring friends to the range with me.
Man, way to piss in a brothers cornflakes.
I kid, I kid. Good tip on the lube...I'm guessing graphite or similar?
The 22/45 looks cool, but reiterates my point about 22 pistols. The 22/45 looks like a target pistol. Seems if you want a 22 that looks like an actual gun, a compromise in performance is needed.
Or I could be completely wrong. /shrug
I hear they don't like the cheap bulk ammo. I've put quite a few CCI rnds through my buddy's with no issues.
My biggest issue with my Mark I Ruger is the magazines seem touchy - when they get out of adjustment you get misfeeds.
Otherwise, the only ammo that mine does not like is that truncated semi-wadcutter el-cheapo, otherwise, anything with a round nose bullet works fine.
Outers Gunslick is also a good choice for a higher vis. lube - it's graphite based grease and a little goes a long way - I use it on my BHP to good effect.
Interesting. I bought a Neos instead of the Bersa, mostly because I read that they would shoot any ammo. And that has been my experience. I have used maybe 5 or 6 different brands and types of cheap ammo, and everything works
oops, I quoted the wrong post. I was referring to the P22.
Another friend of mine has a 22/45 and it eats anything. I have a Neos, and it does too.
For a Standard frame .22 I hear the Ruger SR22 isn't picky. No experience with it though so don't take my word for it.
Got a Bond Arms Snake Slayer derringer and a Taurus Judge last week. 3" .410 rounds or .45 Long Colt. I like them both but the derringer is the shit.
Like the guy in the Bond Arms commercial says "If you need more than two shots, you probably lost anyway"
rim fire thread?
here's my gsg1911 with CT grips and silencerco. sparrow
and my 10/22 that has as many farkles as my klr...
and a vid of them getting shot.