I'm looking at these two pistols: The Smith & Wesson M&P 22-12 and the Ruger SR22 Thoughts? Experiences?
I'll get which ever I have the money for really. I like the looks and ergos of the P22, can't say the same or different for the SR until I handle one. The biggest factor is the da/SA trigger on the SR, they're both just plinkers, but it's hard to beat that point.
What is the advantage of the SR22 over the tried and true MK3? I would be hard pressed to justify the purchase of any other rimfire pistol in that price range. I mean come on and look at this thing, its sexy as hell!
The MP22 is more of a training pistol. It's the same size as the standard MP. The SR22 is more compact. 3/4 size. Grerat for plinking and teaching new shooters with small hands. A lot actually. If you're wanting a standard semi-auto, then the SR22 is the better choice. It will make the transition easier for those moving up because it's more similar to centerfire's then the MKIII. The SR22 looks to break down a lot easier then the MKIII as well. The MKIII will be more accurate though. Some people might also choose to CCW the SR22. I don't think you'd want to do that with a MKIII,
If that is the only reason I will get a GSG 1911....right now that is by far the most used gun I own. Fits in the exact same holsters at my "real" 1911...everything is in the exact same place...and is almost the same weight. I really like that gun....and the only problems I have had was feeding the crap remington ammo in it.
Well, it's not all the reasons but some of the major ones. I think the resurgence of 22LR's is two fold. First you have those who want to train but can't because it's too expensive. A clone of their main gun will allow them to train. Then you have all of the other people who aren't training but still want to shoot. For a long time, there weren't that many 22LR's out there. You basically had the Browning Buckmaster, Ruger MK3, 10/22, Marlin 39a and a few other choices. Now, the market for 22LR is pretty big with a lot more choices. For a training gun, the only downside to some of the clones I see would be build quality and the ability to really duplicate everything on your centerfire gun. I know Kimber, for a long time has made a 22LR conversion for their 1911's. CA also makes one for their CZ-75. Actually I think both make a dedicated 22LR version as well. Sig had Kimber make 22LR conversion for many of their guns as well. P226, P229R, P229/P228, P220... Advantage Arms makes a 22LR conversion for Glock's as well. If you're just plinking then matching the gun isn't a concern.
This is the reason I bought a conversion for my RIA. I'm using the same exact frame and grip of the gun I would be carrying, so all the controls are as similar as they can be.
The MKIII is a bitch to break down when compared to modern centerfire pistols, I would like to say that once you get the hang of it its no big deal but I've had mine forever and it still fights me sometimes. Now my SR9 I can have cleaned in 5 minutes, but the MK III is still a better looking and firing pistol.
The MarkIII isn't hard to break down, in fact it's down right easy. It's putting the SOB back together that's tough. How Ruger created a pistol that's so difficult to assemble, but easy to strip apart has always amazed me.
That is true. I actually got mine used for a song because the PO broke it down and couldn't put it back together again. It sat for YEARS and then I got a hold of it. I had a gunsmith reassemble it because at the time I wasn't sure if it was missing parts etc and its been nonstop plink plink ever since!
My gsg eats federal champion bulk from gander mtn really well. After a good polish and lube job it runs greats. Winchester 555 bulk didn't feed worth shit. Super fun gun!!
Grabbed this guy in the right place at the right time: It's a Mossberg 46M(a) which makes it post war '45-'47. It was missing the rear sight aperture and the buttplate is broken, so it seems to be a real piece of shit... I ordered the aperture today and I will try to find the rear sling mount and buttplate at the next funshow in March.
