The Running thread

Discussion in 'Sports' started by slackmeyer, Oct 23, 2016.

  1. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2007
    Oddometer:
    3,966
    Location:
    Berzerkeley, CA
    Good luck at the Monterey half! That's a really nice place for a road run, hope it's not too windy or foggy.
    I should do a real writeup for Castle peak, that would help me remember it too, I'm not sure if I'll do it again next year (because it may be too close to the 100 mile race I want to do), but it's a great one.
    I'm not sure about TRT- beautiful area for sure, I remember scoping out the 100 mile course and thinking that it had a lot of out and back on the tunnel creek fire road.
    Pacing Rio Del Lago Saturday night was a lot of fun; I hung out at No-Hands bridge for a couple hours in a light rain (got there a bit too early, but I didn't want to miss my runner, and I made friends and had good conversations while I was there), then my runner came in just a bit later than his goal pace, we met, and set off walking up the one big hill in my section of the race.
    My runner was a friend of a friend, a French philosophy postdoc living in Chicago with a sub 3 hour marathon time, named Nicolas, and that's about all I knew. That actually made it easy to keep up light, distracting chatter for much of the next 8 hours. I was there providing company, light (I have great lights, I do a lot of night running and take that shit seriously, most of the runners I saw out there had really marginal headlamps), nutrition reminders, and encouragement to run instead of walk on the flat and gentle sections.
    It was definitely pretty hard for Nicolas to run in the last quarter of the race, but his form was still good, and he tried whenever he could. He wasn't very interested in food, but I convinced him that it was his job to keep taking in calories, and I think that helped him feel better and better towards the end of the race. There was a low point at mile 96, the very last aid station, when he was for some reason thinking it would be 3.5 miles to the finish, but the sign there said 4.5. So a 3 mile mostly walking low, and then he smelled the barn (actually, he heard the finish line announcer), and ran (fast) the last mile and a half. 23 hours and 15 minutes to run 100 miles, i'm impressed. Lots of those hours were run in the rain, and there was plenty of mud on the course too.
    Pacing was fun. I'll be pacing again in 2 weeks, then looking for more opportunities to pace next year.
    DeepSea likes this.
  2. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2007
    Oddometer:
    3,966
    Location:
    Berzerkeley, CA
    Oh, and this is not really my area of knowledge when it comes to running, but how cool was it to see Shalane win NYC Marathon, and to see Meb run a great final race? Those two are real champions.
    Green Stainz likes this.
  3. DeepSea

    DeepSea electronically challenged

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2008
    Oddometer:
    520
    Location:
    East Bay
    Thanks, me too.

    The No Hands bridge. I did some repair work on it in 97'. After the 96' 97' floods the upstream foundation block fell away. Bridge was shut down until we finished.

    Good on ya for pacing him. I can see how after 23 hours you would want to just lay down in the dirt and take a little break. :twitch Having someone to keep you positive and on track is awesome. :thumb

    Steve
  4. DeepSea

    DeepSea electronically challenged

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2008
    Oddometer:
    520
    Location:
    East Bay
    @slackmeyer I seem to remember you were looking for a new watch. Did you find one or am I remembering things wrong? It wouldn't be the first time. :dunno

    Mine is starting to act up again. So I went shopping online. I found a Garmin 920Xt with the Tri bundle for under $300 delivered. :deal
    That's the one with two different HR monitor bands. One for the pool and one for anything else. Watch/bundle was $305 then they gave another 10% for first time customers. The MSRP is $599.

    Here's where I got it. No affiliation, just passing on what I feel is a good deal.
    I'll let you know how it goes if your interested. If they shipped on time and it was actually in stock.

    Steve

    Edit: I received an order confirmation email that has a guaranteed delivery date of Monday Nov 13. :clap
  5. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2007
    Oddometer:
    3,966
    Location:
    Berzerkeley, CA
    Yeah, I ordered a new battery for my 910 xt so I'll see if I can revive that at some point. But after way too much research and thought about it, I went with a Suunto for a new (er) watch. Found a good deal on an ambit 2, and I've been very pleased with it. It handles elevation better than my Garmin ever did, which is important to me, and gps speed and accuracy are fantastic. It's heavy and a bit less comfortable, which is too bad, but I can handle that.
  6. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2007
    Oddometer:
    3,966
    Location:
    Berzerkeley, CA
    I'll just add- I got a ambit2 because I trust the heart rate strap much more than wrist hr, the battery life seemed good enough for me, and a good condition used one was $100. And almost everyone agrees that the Suunto is better built/more rugged. I agree with that. It has fewer features, and the screen is not as good at displaying several different things though.
    If I was in the new watch market I'd definitely take a look at their Spartan trainer.
    I've had a cold this week, and I've done two hard runs since last Saturday's all night pacing, and yet. . . . My legs feel fresh, and I'm trying to figure out when I can get out for another run. It's raining right now, my wife's first ultra (Mt. Tam 50k) is tomorrow morning, so it might be a few miles tonight, a dozen tomorrow afternoon, and maybe 15 or so Sunday.
    DeepSea likes this.
  7. DeepSea

    DeepSea electronically challenged

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2008
    Oddometer:
    520
    Location:
    East Bay
    That's great. A watch that does all that you want/need for $100. :clap
  8. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2007
    Oddometer:
    3,966
    Location:
    Berzerkeley, CA
    Ha. Well, let's see how long it lasts/how long until I want something else more (squirrel!), I might end up with a new $100 watch every year.
    DeepSea likes this.
  9. DeepSea

    DeepSea electronically challenged

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2008
    Oddometer:
    520
    Location:
    East Bay
    :lol3

    At least its not a new bike every year.
  10. DeepSea

    DeepSea electronically challenged

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2008
    Oddometer:
    520
    Location:
    East Bay
    Monterey went well. Broke my Half Marathon PR by 9 minutes. :clap

    Official time of 1:40::16
    Here is the crew. Drinkers with a running problem. :lol3 I'm the odd ball on the left.
    [​IMG]

    The weather was perfect. Ended up being almost 7k runners. :yikes
    disconnected, Ridge and slackmeyer like this.
  11. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2007
    Oddometer:
    3,966
    Location:
    Berzerkeley, CA
    9 minutes, that's great, nice job.
    DeepSea likes this.
  12. Ridge

    Ridge Mischevious Disruptor

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2006
    Oddometer:
    5,259
    Location:
    Cackalacky
    Ran 7.5 miles on trails saturday and it didn't suck... completely. Does that mean I no longer hate running? :dunno
    disconnected and DeepSea like this.
  13. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2007
    Oddometer:
    3,966
    Location:
    Berzerkeley, CA
    You're shifting the love/hate, little by little. . .I don't think you'd be running if there wasn't some love for it in you. And I know that at least for me, I'm not purely joyful when I'm pulling on my shoes about to go out for a training session at 9 pm in the pouring rain.

    My wife ran her first 50k on Saturday, she did great and had a good time. Was very cool to see her out there running hard-and she did, she did a great job of pacing to come in with not much left in her legs, but not many low spots out on the course.

    I had two very different runs this weekend: Saturday night, 10k on the track at just over 7:00/mile, which felt good, fast but sustainable. Sunday morning, about 11 hours later, I went out for some easy-ish vert with another runner, and got in 4k feet over 14 miles at 12+min/mile.
    DeepSea and Ridge like this.
  14. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2007
    Oddometer:
    3,966
    Location:
    Berzerkeley, CA
    Watching ebay pays off for me again: another pair of my favorite road/speed work shoe, New Balance 1400v3. Virtually new, but missing insoles (no big deal, they're super thin and I'll transfer from my current pair when I wear them out). $17 including shipping.
    Screenshot_20171114-093535.png
    Ridge likes this.
  15. Ridge

    Ridge Mischevious Disruptor

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2006
    Oddometer:
    5,259
    Location:
    Cackalacky
    Is it that common to have different shoes for different workouts? I had a hard enough time finding a shoe maker I liked, then finding shoes that fit while running, but still allowed my foot to move.

    I know there are shoes for track, trail, and road but does it drill deeper than that?

    Currently I’m happy with Saucony Peregrine 7 trail shoes, Pear Izumi road shoes, and that’s it.


    Sent from my PU-286 Explosive Space Modulator
  16. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2007
    Oddometer:
    3,966
    Location:
    Berzerkeley, CA
    Sure. I'd say it makes more sense to have a varied quiver of shoes than it does to have varied bikes/tires, if that makes it more relatable. It's a similar idea though.
    I usually prefer as little shoe as I can get away with for road and smooth dirt- the NB shoe above is about 6.5 ounces in a size 10, and my feet are ok for 20 miles in them. I'll probably use them for dry fast 50k races this year.
    I have several pairs of shoes that have more tread than road shoes, but are still comfortable on road, they're light, they drain well (that's really important for some runs), and they have good traction on rocks. Those are kind of the cyclocross bike of my quiver, and they get the most miles. Nike Kiger, Salomon sense pro are great for me in this range, I got my wife some pearl izumi N1 trail shoes that are similar, and she loves them.
    I have a couple pairs of more protective and heavier shoes, good for more hike-y runs, mud, etc. I don't really have much in the aggressive tread department, I haven't come across very much terrain in California where I want big lugs. The mud around here is so slippery/sticky that lugged shoes just turn into slick heavy mud balls.
    I'm fortunate to have low volume feet that seem to be happy in a lot of different shoes. I don't like the really wide ones, but I have yet to find a shoe that is too narrow.
    Ridge likes this.
  17. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

    Joined:
    May 13, 2004
    Oddometer:
    33,009
    Location:
    NoVA for now...
    You're* gonna have to find new road shoes soon. PI got out of the running game here recently.

    I have yet to break out the running shoes. The screw-its have reared their ugly heads. ...and I'm still racing every Sun. Not 'off-season' for me yet. :nah

    M

    *and me too! I've got 4-5 pair of PI running shoes and like all of em (both road and trail versions) :bluduh
  18. Ridge

    Ridge Mischevious Disruptor

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2006
    Oddometer:
    5,259
    Location:
    Cackalacky
    Yeah, that's what pushed me to buy the Saucony and I've been pleased with them thus far, but I'm really not qualified enough to give a good reason for being pleased with them. It's difficult coming from the bike realm where it's easier to discern quality of ride between a Ti frame, Steel, CF, etc...

    I know enough to bullshit my way through a conversation but that's about it for running knowledge.
  19. disconnected

    disconnected brap

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2006
    Oddometer:
    8,654
    Location:
    Pittsburgh
    Trail carnage

    [​IMG]


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  20. DeepSea

    DeepSea electronically challenged

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2008
    Oddometer:
    520
    Location:
    East Bay
    Did you decide on the distance?