the rust bucket

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by 2manyrides, Dec 10, 2009.

  1. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    I got 3 junkers to show here.
    There was a thread going when I was trying to free the piston...

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=404904

    Unfortunately not having a host sevice all my photos are gone!:eek1
    Just finished a new video/slide show down below.


    So I moved into this house in 93. Soon I noticed in the big backyard next door, bikes sticking out through the weeds!
    Later I looked and it was 2 B50's and an AJS. Really sad results of weathered machines. It wasn't until 13 years later I talked the guy into giving them up. Geez! I took em home and stored them outside.
    No harm done as the wheels, chains and motors were already rusted up good.
    (I mean none of that stuff turns!)
    Then a friend told me about another friend who had a Triumph to get rid of. He had salvaged it from a barn, Some one had taken the motor apart and taken the front wheel and carb.
    Well, that turned out to be a 72 bsa gold star street scrambler. (B50):wink:
    He, he that's what I have already 2 SS's and a TR5MX:clap
    this means more spare parts! Then it was time to save what I could on these bikes.

    Those of you with weak stomachs sheild your eyes! How could they do this to any bike? Let alone the rare last of the big singles.
    (untill yamaha came out with the TT500)

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    2manyrides
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  2. crazydrummerdude

    crazydrummerdude Wacky Bongo Boy

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    Sad and cool at the same time.
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  3. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    Right!
    Cool that I got em, sad that it took so long and that they were not protected from the elements at all!
    For instance, the B50T was left to fend for itself, laying on it's side, with no forks or swingarm on it.
    The rustyest one of the bunch, it sat out there with no carb.:eek1
    The guy would tell me about the man who left them at his house. They used to be raced. They were left there temporarily as he moved to Idaho. My neigbor was supposed to finish building this big barbeque trailer.
    He was draggung his feet on that so reluctant to contact the guy in
    Idaho, who later had a stroke and hip replacement. (he ain't gonna race BSA's anymore)
    In the end I talked him into handing them over in trade for a jetted bath I got for free!:clap

    Win Win for me accept for the time it tookk to get them out of the rain.
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  4. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    I figured these would be tough and sure enough they busted off.

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    Grinding the cover and the heads off I could see it was bad.

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    The crank end was crystalized and that altenator nut was just stuck there with rust.
    I never did get the plates out of the clutch basket, the tabs are fused.

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    There's no output from this stator...

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    The chamber was completely full with expanded rust. This shot was after vaccuming the loose stuff.

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  5. Abdelhub

    Abdelhub Blanco Trasho

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    man thats some bad rust in the cases and cylinder....what are your plans with this stuff?

    Mike
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  6. Hawk Medicine

    Hawk Medicine Coyote's Brother

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    So I guess now the rebuild begins, huh? :wink:
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  7. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    Not a candidate for rebuild as the crank's rotor end is crystalized and busted off.

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    After seeing the goo in the sump plate a simple oil change just wont do.

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    After a fill of olive oil at near flash point temps it took 30 whacks to free the rings/piston.

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    And as the slug cleared the jug she cracked the liner.

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    That's ok, my main concern was to save the undamaged fins.

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    Just goes to show that when you get done riding you don't just park it out in a field for 20 years.
    No, she'll never be rebuilt as a whole, this was a salvage job.

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  8. jbcaddy

    jbcaddy Long timer

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  9. ivantheterrible

    ivantheterrible Been here awhile

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    22manyrides,
    i don't know what it is, but I really love those bikes. they look like a motorcycle should, imho.
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  10. jake28

    jake28 Riding to the horizon.

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    Every part of this photo is epic. Too good to be bad. An ax on a tippy chair, and steel pipe, and olive oil. Win.
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  11. Abdelhub

    Abdelhub Blanco Trasho

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    i will generally buy any old british or spanish bike condition unimportant...

    it is a sickness...

    Mike
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  12. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    B50's, The bastard stepchild created at the end of an era.
    Too little too late. The improved version of a 30+ year old design that started with the triumph cub.

    I just happen to have had on both a savoy brown tee shirt AND hat! CLASSIC...

    I had to get the maul out because a 3 lbs sledge had no effect. Imagine what the neighbors might have thought!

    If only we had room to store these relics, i'd be the same way.
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  13. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    The AJS below emitted quite a pool of oil where ever it went!

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    I would think you're speaking of the classic 4 stroke variety.
    This AJS, the one with the yellow tank, (in the middle) was of the large displacement 2 stroke mx type. Here's the shameful multi year storage these were treated to. I aquired the tr5mx and the B50T only after multipal requests over time. Afterwhich the AJS was dragged up to a shed by the owner to releive it from such abuse. (a little late egh?) I think it's still there!

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  14. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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  15. vtwin

    vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon

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    How many whacks did it take to break the olive oil bottle?:lol3 Liking the Chevy panel you have, when will it get restored?:ear
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  16. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    Well, vtwin has used close examination of the circumstances to uncover the fact that the picture was staged.
    Oh it's all for real about haveing to hit it hard over 30 times. I wish I had run the camera during the hammering, but I was busy trying to break it loose with the piping hot oil.

    I was there alone with no one to help document the destruction.
    Obviously the bottle wasn't sitting there at the time.

    The 52 needs everything again. I don't have the spare doe for it. I bought it in 72, $320, rebuilt the 216cc.
    Threw a rod in 79 cause the "dipper" fell off cylinder #4's rod cap, put a 58 vette motor and 350 tranny in in 80, last drove it in 98.
    As opposed to the blue pick up, a 52 chevy is made of metal and can be rebuilt.

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    I swore I'd never sell it but times are tough and I'm wondering whether I'll ever get to it.
    Not one to leave a project in pieces, half done, I have not started because I don't forsee all the ducks getting in a row anytime soon.
    Can't tell you how bad I want to do it though.
    27 years of driving that old thing. 2 sets of kingpins and arced leafs, 7 starters, 13 generators, 5 carbs,
    3 windsheilds...ect.
    Any one remember Roddy's?
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  17. Abdelhub

    Abdelhub Blanco Trasho

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    Of the probably 30 neglected motorcycles Ive owned I have only had one I couldnt break loose. It was a 250 Ossa and the piston just wouldnt move in the bore. the cylinder actually came up with the piston. as the cylinder came up i got some wood under the edges of the cylinder and put the whole motor in a 50 ton press pushing down on the piston.. still wouldnt move.

    got out he sawzall and cut the rod....defeated.

    once i lifted it off with piston and half a rod still in the cylinder i put it back in the press. hot torch and 50 tons of pressure....piston came out with a sound id never heard. shattered the piston skirts....scared the hell out of me...

    fun anyway....old bikes are a great disease to have...

    Mike
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  18. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    I was this...:clap...close to the sawzall attack when she gave way.

    I hit it, hit it, and hit it.
    Just before I gave up I decided to give it most everything I've got.
    It budged!
    I then had to build a new wood block set to raise the cylinder further for more whacks.
    Let's just say the piston is less domed than stock.:lol3
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