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Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by planemanx15, Apr 1, 2012.
Thats a common thing among scooterati....MSS. Multiple Scoooter Syndrome!
lol MMS sounds like i have that before owning anything.. dumb question, but how bad are the vespa 12" wheels on a freeway? i keep going back to it because of the classic lines and looks. i mean they wouldnt make a scooter that can do 80 mph without it being safe right?
thanks for the info, i noticed there are not many BV's for sale on ebay or in my area on craigslist, dealers, etc. is that a good thing or bad? good meaning owners love them and wont sell, or bad meaning the dont sell from the dealer.
Only a Vespa is a Vespa....and with Vespa comes smaller wheels.
I've been riding Vespas for almost 2 decades and enjoy the instantaneous steering provided by the smaller wheels....and yes, I have ridden on the freeway (not my favorite place on my Vespa, DR-650, OR my car actually) and its fine. I do spend plenty of time on highways and secondary roads at freeway speeds however.
The big gripe with 12" wheels is in town where potholes, broken pavement, and poor road surfaces seem more frequent and requires some attentive avoidance manuevering.
That being said, the BV350 is what I consider a medium wheeled scooter. I havent ridden one yet as they arent out yet, but plan on it. The power, fuel economy, and lengthy service intervals are appealing to me.
The surplus of older BVs for sale don't appeal to me, (or I likely would've pursued an earlier BV model already). This new BV350 is more technically advanced than any other BV to date.
yeah, that new BV 350 is also on the list as well, that will probably have to be bought new though, as i am looking to buy this summer. Its MSRP is $5500 IIRC. that means about an OTD price of about $6300 in NY
There are lots of excellent scooters available to be had.
Good news. Lotsa choices.
Bad news. Tough to pick just one!
Any quality scooter will provide a lot of fun though!
Keep us posted when you pull the trigger on something.
I think of buying scooters or bikes like this:
There are great choices and most perform as advertised, Honda, Kimco, Suzuki, Vespa.
Honda's run for ever, some say they are bullet proof. Honda is a motor company they concentrate on building motors and job out everything else.
Follow your passion, learn the operation of some of the most inventive machines, how vespa mounted a tiny motor from an airplane to a back wheel and changed transportation after WWII. Out of the bombed out rubble and dust came Lambretta.
Two design and marketing achievements of the 20th century. Around these two brands a human following has developed.
SYM built many Honda motors (100,s of thousands of them) for many, many years in Taiwan before selling under their own name....
The parent trading company, Ching Feng Hang, was founded in 1947 and imported their first motorcycles (BSAs) in 1949. In 1954 Sanyang Electrics (with four employees) was formed, restructured into Sanyang Industrial Co. Ltd. in 1961. In 1962 they formed a joint venture with Honda to begin local assembly of motorcycles, the first motorcycle manufacturer in Taiwan (30% local content).<SUP style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1em; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-WEIGHT: normal" id=cite_ref-0 class=reference></SUP> In 1969 assembly of small Honda cars (N600, TN360) began. As Sanyang's own motorcycles entered direct competition with Honda's products worldwide, the relationship was terminated in January 2002 and Honda began building cars themselves as Honda Taiwan Co. Ltd.<SUP style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1em; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-WEIGHT: normal" id=cite_ref-1 class=reference></SUP> Sanyang instead signed a contract with Hyundai and currently assembles much of their lineup for the domestic Taiwanese market.
Sanyang Industry Co. Ltd. has its main office in the Hsinchu Industrial Park in Hsinchu County, Taiwan. It has a subsidiary in Xiamen city, China, named Xiamen Xiashing Motorcycle Co., Ltd., and another subsidiary in Bien Hoa, Dong Nai, Vietnam, named Vietnam Manufacturing & Export Processing Co., Ltd. (VMEP).
So I *Think* I've decided, Its going to be the Piaggio BV500 or BV350. They are the best of both worlds, touring ability and light weight nimbleness from a scooter. I can put my girl on the back and take her riding, touring, or just down the block. Plus its got that Italian flare I was looking for. I will probably buy used, unless its the BV350. Now I just have to save some $$ and do it. Im hoping to have be able to afford one mid summer. If I find myself riding it a lot, and not riding the DR, I will probably sell the DR for a vintage Vespa Rally 200.
I also got bitten by the scooter bug a few years ago, but I prefer smaller scooters rather than the maxi-scooters. I started out with a Honda Met, it was too slow, so I traded ir for a Yamaha Vino 125, which I still have. It is great, fun to ride, and practical. But it was still a little too soulless for me. Just too refined. It works fine as a transportation appliance, and anything with 2 wheels is going to be fun, but I wanted more. I wound up with a Genuine Stella 2 stroke. This turned out to be more to my liking. It is a 2 stroke, it smokes, it is noisy, it squeaks and rattles, it has a clunky manual shifter and hand clutch, and it looks beautiful. It is an exact copy of a Vespa PX150, right down to all metal construction. Vintage Vespa parts fit it. Now I feel like I am riding an actual machine, with all the vibration and mechanical noise a machine is supposed to have.Next stop, a real vintage Vespa.
Little update: was bidding on a Vespa gts 250 on eBay. Great condition with really low miles, 2400. Seller and I were going back and forth talking, but I was outbid at $3000. I emailed the seller and told him if the first deal falls through, I'll give him $3000 for it....here's hoping!
Think elegant vintage.
I find no problem with them and apparently neither do the scooter cannonballers who rode GTS 250-300s on freeways (and other roads with 65-75mph speed limits).
Having said that I tour on a Scarabeo 500ie or BV 500ie. I've done trips of 3400-3700 miles on each of them. My Vespa touring has been limited to 1,200-1,400 mile trips. Though I know many who have done much longer ones including members of this forum and http://modernvespa.com
I traded in the Burgman 400 we used to won for the BV 500. I did not find it comfortable on 1,000+ mile trips and like at least one of the other responders found it far too cumbersome for quick, easy round town trips. Plus, I can get away with parking my Vespa in places that would get me a ticket with the Burgman. I can even park the Scarabeo/BV in places where they give tickets to motorcycles/maxiscoots but because they are such a classic scooter design folks don't realize quite how big/fast they are.
T Max, obviously.
Bottom pic is a majesty.
Vespa deal fell through, the guy who won it on the auction, got the scoot... been lookin at the Aprilia sport city 250 now... any opinions?
Cant say, as I have a Kymco People S 250 but klaviator has a Sports City 250. He has put a bunch of miles on it and likes it a lot. He may be along and give you a report. He has given a review on his Sports City 250 if you want to do a search.
correct *facepalm* i just googled for a image of a modded one real quick
there is a awesome black lowered tmax i saw but cant find it
Bought a scooter today.... and the winner is....... 2009 Piaggio BV250 Tourer!!!!!!!!
Ordered it from a dealer on eBay has 4100 miles on it. Perfect condition, should have all the paperwork done, and have the scooter in my possession next week. Ill post a picture up soon