The Shortypants Thread: We are short women and this is what we ride

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Region Riley, Mar 18, 2011.

  1. GailCallsMeKarl

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  2. GI_JO_NATHAN

    GI_JO_NATHAN Long timer

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  3. ElleDubs

    ElleDubs Been here awhile

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    Great looking bike. That is so cool you are doing all that work on your bike yourself. Big kudos.

    I look forward to hearing how the rally goes. Post some pics!
  4. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Mrs CdnX recently got her bike license having completed the mandatory learners course :clap. We're now looking for for her first bike. She wants to build her experience off road before playing in traffic, although road riding isn't a for certain in her future. I'm thinking a used CRF 230 but wonder if there is a better choice. We do want something that can be plated for the road so it's legal for the short moves to the trail and for exploring dirt roads and the like. As far as the 230 goes I wonder if it is still to much bike for a 115lbs new and nervous rider?
  5. 73Mustang

    73Mustang Been here awhile

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    I am not very short, and I think the 230 is heavy and very tall for learning.

    Maybe an XR100R. 100+ pounds lighter than the 230. Somebody sells a coil for lighting the XR.
    So it can be plated. I swear she will learn offroad skills much quicker on a light weight bike than on
    a heavy and too tall bike.

    Do you think Stewardt or Chad Reed learn to ride on a full size bike? Stewardt started out on a PW 50cc.

  6. Cuttle

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    I don't think so, I think it's a perfect choice!

    And congrats to the Mrs!
  7. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    At 5'6" I don't think a 50cc is going to be that comfortable or meet the street legal requirement for the Mrs. I don't know Stewardt or Chad but I gather they are good riders of some renown, however I just want MrsCdnX to be comfortable, confident and street legal on her first ride. Ultimately she will decide what to buy and I will give pointers where I can. Definitely a lighter bike is the way to go but a well balanced bike that is comfortable with smooth power delivery, a reasonable suspension and brakes will inspire more confidence and good time thus more riding. More riding = more skill development = more confidence = happy wife = happy life :lol3

    I'm told here that if a bike isn't sold to be a street legal bike than it is pretty hard to get it licensed. So bike like the XR are likely out of the question. As for the riding it will be dirt road and dirt road like trails with nothing technical in the immediate future.
  8. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds I'm alive.

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    The "new and nervous" comment makes me think that yes, the 230 is a bit much. Not in power, but unless she is tall it will be an awkward bike. My gf tried the XT225. For her small frame the bike was too much while off road. I agree with 73mule, a 100cc is the way to start. If it need not be street legal the XR100, CRF150, KLX140, ttr125 and drz125 are a better place to start. If street legal is a requirement, there are older bikes that are great for the first year or so of riding. Kawi had a street legal KE100 (great bike) and Yamaha and Suzuki had their own version. Don't remember their titles though. I bet millions have put million of miles on the Honda CT series as well. It'll be a great bike to build confidence.
  9. Cuttle

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    I found that most of the older smaller and street-leagal bikes are fairly heavy compared to the newer ones - so, it's basically a tradeoff. I think with a bit lowering the bike should be fine and at least it can do an ok speed on the road. I guess it really comes down to how much street compared to dirt you are really going to do.

    btw the 230 has the same height as most 125th and 150th (only advantage of the smaller bikes would be the weight)

    Why don't you post up in the regionals and see if she can do a test-ride somewhere?
  10. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds I'm alive.

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    Absolutely right if we're comparing older bikes of similar displacement. There are no new 100cc street legal bikes that I know of in this country, though. Only older ones. And they are in fact 50-80 lbs lighter. And a few inches shorter.

    After owning and riding both the XT225 and KE100, the KE was a much better bargain for us.

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    Here is the next project. A KLX140L (Big Wheel) with a Baja Design light kit on it.

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    I'm about 115 pounds and I WOULD NOT suggest the 230 as an off road bike. I have one and it's tried to kill me on trails. I'm new (about a year of riding) and a not at all a nervous person.
    I use my 230 as a road bike only now. I will hit gravel roads and hard pack stuff but nothing even remotely nasty. The thing is just too damn heavy. I'm pretty resilient and that thing had me questioning if I wanted to keep riding.

    Find a used TTR125 cheap and let her trail ride it until she knows for sure what she wants to do. I regret buying my 230 big time. I bought it before I really knew what kind of riding I was going to be doing. Again, it's fine as a road/gravel road/dirt road bike, but if you're tiny and new and stuff gets ugly, it's just not fun. I get pinned under mine because it's just too damn heavy to lift if I get stuck under it. I'm terrified I'm going to get seriously injured by it.

    I ended up just building what I needed - I primarily ride off road but wanted something street legal so I could ride connecting roads to get to the next bit of fun and haul to places like CO to go play anywhere the legal bikes can go.

    Let her ride a little fun bike a bunch first, then buy her first "real" bike once she knows what she likes to do. Get the confidence up first!
  12. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Good advice for sure, thank you. The weight of the 230 is a concern, needs to be an easy bike to handle. She can flat foot the examples she has sat on. The intent is to run dirt roads and the many trails in our area that you could drive your car down, nothing technical. Light will be better though. We'll have to look hard at the need to have it street plated. I was thinking a TTR would be a good start point too if we opted not to have a bike that can be road plated.
  13. Region Riley

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    Totally agree with the others...try to find a 100/125/150 to start. When she is riding the wheels off of it, then move up to the 230.

    My crf230f felt big and scary even after riding a ttr125, but it didn't take long for me to get used to it and outgrow it. :D
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    I am under the impression they are riding dirt roads not really gnarly offroad...
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    I still think the same theory applies to a beginner. :dunno I wasn't riding gnarly offroad when I started either.
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    Are you talking about a CRF230L or CRF230F? Big difference. The CRF230L is much, much, much tamer....
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    street-legal would be L... and bringing up what certain riders started on as kids should not be a factor (kids are fearless and have no idea about throttle control)
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    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Haha, don't I know it. My mom caught me jumping the front of her car with a plywood ramp on my XT 200. Never could stick the landing :lol3

    Thinking about the 230 L for the road going bike and would be sticking to easy dirt roads and trails you could drive your car on. Lots of them in the area. Lots to think about but ultimately the decision is Mrs CdnX's. She can flat foot the 230L and did her course on a heavier 250 cruiser something or other. I'm thinking we'll both sign up for a off road riding course next year just to build skills.

    Have to look at gettting all the good gear now to keep her safe when she has a spill.
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    My wife rides a 230L, and it has been a great bike for learning on. Nice low seat height, and light at 267 lbs. Not a good highway cruiser though, it might do 70 down hill with a tail wind, but it really doesn't like speeds over about 60.
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    helipilot650l Sweet!!!!!!

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