1. fivetimeson129

    fivetimeson129 Been here awhile

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    Found the road quite by accident in very late fall last year whats it like during the 'season' how does it compare to the Dragon? a search returned no results

    http://www.421thesnake.com/
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  2. Scotty P

    Scotty P Funny Like a Clown

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    Yep I've been there.............Stick with that one. Not as much traffic.

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  3. klaviator

    klaviator Long timer

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    I once rode to Shady Valley during July or August and the place was completely packed with bikes and cops had their speed traps set. I don't know if it was a special occasion or typical weekend.

    I also did a ride in the fall a couple of years ago where I rode the area as well as Deal's Gap and some of the other area roads. It was wet and pretty deserted at that time while it was still pretty busy at Deal's gap.
    My ride report is here: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=834584
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  4. windblown101

    windblown101 Long timer

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    I've ridden to 421 as a long day ride destination from up in NW VA once. Ridden through there twice more on my way through the area. I didn't see much traffic or police presence during those trips.

    I'd rate it as a worthy road to ride through if it fits into your route when going from point A to Point B, or as a day ride. I wouldn't make it a destination for a multi-day ride.

    IMHO while it's a fun stretch of road there are better ones a stones throw away.
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  5. peejman

    peejman i wanna ride

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    I used to live near there and rode 421 pretty regularly. Now I'm about 30 minutes from the 129 overlook.

    129 is tighter and more unrelenting. 421 is split into two halves the "Bristol side" and "Mountain City side". Generally, 421 is a touch more open, but there's houses, cross streets, gravelly spots, and other such hazards. Both are pretty heavily patrolled during the season. 421 isn't quite as busy and doesn't turn into the parade that 129 does. Hit either on a weekday and they'll be nearly empty.

    It's a beautiful area with tons of great riding within a couple hours.
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  6. SidewinderX

    SidewinderX Hey, watch this!

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    Peejman described it perfectly.

    I ride it very often.
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  7. fivetimeson129

    fivetimeson129 Been here awhile

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    Thanks all for the replies, Klaviator; your review and pics were great.
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  8. Scotty P

    Scotty P Funny Like a Clown

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    The snake....

    Good point............I think I was there on a Thursday riding to Rick's RDV.

    Some bikes but it wasn't packed.
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  9. StorckWhip

    StorckWhip Adventurer

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    I rode from Williamsburg, VA via the BRP to hit The Snake two years ago. It was a long day, but I got there at about 5PM and had some time to make a couple of runs up the Snake. It was great and I encountered no cars or police. I stayed the night in Bristol and, due to rain the next AM, skipped a trip back to 421. I'd do it again. I also went out of my way returning home with my wife from a trip to Asheville to hit The Snake in my Miata. Again, had a blast.

    It's a worthy road, but I have favorites closer to home that are more fun.
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  10. thumperpilot

    thumperpilot Thumper Pilot

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  11. ob1quixote

    ob1quixote Been here awhile

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    I had some fun on that road a year ago. Michelin AC10 knobbies, keeping up with old British bikes, on wet pavement and low cloud ceiling when we made our way back to Blowing Rock.

    I was spent when it was over. Even a night's sleep didnt reset it!

    Not a cop in sight, and I can definitely say there are other roads in the area well worth traveling. Look around, 129 is a nice enough starting spot!
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  12. Katoom119

    Katoom119 Mmmm....Orange Kool-aid

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    There's no telling how many thousands of miles I've ridden up there during the 6 years I was riding there. Shady dogs (steamed hot dogs) are fantastic. Mountain City side is more open than 129, Bristol even more than that. 19 through Stoney Creek reminds me of the Isle of Man (don't crash, period) and 133 to Backbone Rock is like the Cherohala with wide sweeping curves.

    Go slow past the church on Sundays. On any given weekend you'll have four bikes or 100 depending on what's going on locally. Weekdays you stand a good chance of being the only one there other than the occasional local.

    It's nowhere near the psycho squid parade that 129 is.
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  13. peejman

    peejman i wanna ride

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    I think you mean 91 through Stoney Creek, but yeah... that one has a few spots.... :eek1
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  14. fivetimeson129

    fivetimeson129 Been here awhile

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    Those who live anywhere near the area are fortunate indeed.. We were in an oversized vehicle at the time and those who passed us (I pull over each and every time possible when riders are behind) really seemed to be quite civilized, not one offered us any geological specimens.

    Wonder if this is what the Dragon was at one time?
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  15. SidewinderX

    SidewinderX Hey, watch this!

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    I am about an hour away. I am sure that the Dragon was the same at one time.

    Unfortunately- the great roads are very secret anymore. There are some AWESOME roads in the area with No traffic. :clap

    Quite often, I am reminded that I am extremely fortunate to live here.
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  16. MaverickNC

    MaverickNC Gnarly Dude

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    +1 Adam.

    To the OP: That place was my second home for a number of years. Weekdays and early/late season are best. Very few squids/cages/LEOs. Just all the good stuff. Hwy 58 outside nearby Damascus, VA is also awesome.

    David Dial runs the general store. Can't ask for better owners. They do it right.

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  17. dlrides

    dlrides 1:1.618

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    Must be one of the most awesome roads ever !
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  18. 4PawsHacienda

    4PawsHacienda Been here awhile

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    Snake pretty good, marketing is making it a bit more popular than it deserves.

    Check out the website clawofthedragon.com for some VA rides that are decent.
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  19. CheapB

    CheapB Been here awhile

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    It's not bad during the week sometimes, but stay away on the weekends. Here's a little escapade I had with some friends back in 08. :lol3

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  20. SidewinderX

    SidewinderX Hey, watch this!

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    LMAO- Driving awards for everyone! :rofl:rofl



    Once I was busted with a LARGE group while off roading near the Yadkin River. They made two lines and started handing out tickets. They ran out of tickets and the guys in the back of the line had to wait for them to go back and get another book of tickets..... Good times....:wink:
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