The "sport" of motorcycling?

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  1. hippiebrian

    hippiebrian Long timer

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    I keep reading and hearing people saying that we need to attract more people to the "sport" of motorcycling. What they really mean is to put more people on motorcycling. Why is it people call motorcycling (the type most of us do, commuting, travelling, touring, etc) a sport?

    Racing, stunting and trials, etc, are sports, as there is competition there. If you are being competitive on the street, you don't belong there. Take it to the track. If you are being competitive on open dirt trails, you don't belong there either. Set up or go to a closed motorcross track or closed course.

    Outside of that, motorcycling is transportation, a hobby and, for me, a life long obsession. But not a sport. Callign it a sport gives it, imho, the wrong image.
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  2. Aj Mick

    Aj Mick Been here awhile

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    Maybe I am being a semantics pedant, but I agree.

    Competitive riding is a sport, and it is good to see people getting into it. Many of have dabbled in "the sport", or still do. However, for the most part motorcycling is a just a way to get around, or a hobby..... albeit an obsession for some!
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  3. JimVonBaden

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    You seem awfully uptight for a hippie!:lol3

    It is a passion, an obsession, a penis enhancer, an ego machine and yes, even a sport, if that is what you choose to call it.:deal

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  4. DudeClone

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    i think its sporty, so to speak. sporting, of sorts. and it would seem many ride primarily for sport. and for others its a big part of it

    i consider the guys who ride the canyons on supersports amateur sportsmen. what else could it be but sport? i have no inclination to do that. i mean i like a good ride in the hills and some spirited riding, but i am not matching a ridng suit to the color of my bike or scraping knees around turns just for the sake of it. that to me is sport

    as is some off road riding, etc. when i am splitting lanes and dodging traffic i feel athletic sometimes. body control, coordination, split second "better make this shot" decisions. its somewhat...physical. as well as mental. kinda like sport can be

    anyway these waters go too deep. just call it what you want 'n keep the rubber side down :)
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  5. car94

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    So if your not Competing against someone its not a sport. You need to relax a little on the semantics. It takes coordination skill and physical ability to ride trails at a normal pace with the flow of the trail. Same way on the road, If I am going the 55vmph speed limit and the suggested speed of the corner is 25 it takes a little skill and physical ability to make the turn. I say its a sport no matter what level you are riding, its not just sitting in a seat. I think calling it a sport gives it a way better image than the pirate costumed biker gangs image most of these turds want to convey. After all you meet the nicest people on a ADV/Sport/Metric cruiser.:D
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  6. k-moe

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    In the broad view, anything that you do, that isn't work, is sport.
    But then again, organized professional sports are work......
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    Sport:

    1) an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

    2) a particular form of this, especially in the out of doors.

    3) diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.

    4) jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry: What he said in sport was taken seriously.

    5) mockery; ridicule; derision: They made sport of him.

    Debate all you want about the first two, but the last three certainly fit this forum! :evil
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  8. DAKEZ

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    :freaky No competition... Not a sport! Like Jogging... NOT a sport.
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  9. lnewqban

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    Aren't we all competing against gravity? :freaky
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  10. car94

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    Is Time Competition?
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  11. hippiebrian

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    Actually I agree...jogging is just running when you don't have to.:D
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  12. doxiedog

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    If ping pong is a sport.......
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  13. Klay

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    I'm offended when someone calls it a "sport." Or they say "If you want to play, you have to pay." I live riding motorcycles. I may die riding motorcycles. While I enjoy my motorcycling life, it's not really play. The passion is something more than that.
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  14. DC2wheels

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    Kinda' like golf. I know I may be desecrating hallowed ground here for some of you FFs.

    If you go out and play a round of golf by yourself, is it a sport or is it just an activity of accuracy?

    Then if you take your Panagale out and run a bunch of curves just right OR clean a woods section on your first try on your WR250- and that leaves you with a smile.

    Which is a sport or just an activity?

    BTW, IMHO I'd rather whack a throttle than whack a ball.
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  15. sloweddy

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    I know many people want to insist that the term "Sport" only apply to competitive activities even though the dictionary definitions and common usage are clearly at odds with that narrow of a viewpoint.

    People design, build, buy and ride Sports Bikes, Sport Tourers and Dual Sports Motorcycles knowing that the joy of riding (even - or maybe especially - when there is no competition involved) can be a fantasitic experience whether you call it a sport, hobby, passion, pursuit, amusement, obsession, past time, or two wheeled motorized transportation.

    From the article linked below:

    "A sport bike, aka "sportbike" and "sportsbike", is a motorcycle optimized for speed, acceleration, braking, and cornering on paved roads, typically at the expense of comfort and fuel economy by comparison with more standard motorcycles.

    Soichiro Honda wrote in the owner's manual of the 1959 Honda CB92 Benly Super Sport that, "Primarily, essentials of the motorcycle consists in the speed and the thrill,"..."

    " Cycle World's Kevin Cameron says more prosaically that, "A sportbike is a motorcycle whose enjoyment consists mainly from its ability to perform on all types of paved highway – its cornering ability, its handling, its thrilling acceleration and braking power, even (dare I say it?) its speed."

    "Sport touring motorcycles share many features of sport bikes, but they are generally considered a class all their own. These are mid- to large-sized motorcycles that offer more carrying capacity, more relaxed ergonomics, and more versatility than specialized sport bikes, while being lighter and more agile than touring motorcycles"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_bike
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  16. Pantah

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    Is snow skiing a sport? No competition there. How about all those bicyclists with their $5k carbon bikes and spandex clothing? Is that a sport? How about track day riders? They just do laps.

    Commuting is commuting, but trail riding is a test of sorts, and I think of it as a sporting activity. I would say that motorcycling in general is a pastime, but it has sporting elements that are not necessarily racing.

    What I don't understand is why the OP wants to lecture us about it.
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  17. daveinva

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    Others have hit it: OF COURSE motorcycling is a sport. Except when it isn't.

    Swimming is a sport, except when it's exercise, or when it's relaxation, or when it's to keep from drowning.

    Bicycling is a sport, except when it's exercise, or when it's relaxation, or when it's commuting.

    Etc., etc.

    Now, do I think 99.9% of riders are engaged in "sport" riding? No, I don't. But many riders certainly engage in *sporty* riding, i.e. riding that is distinguished from competitive riding only by the lack of competition, or a change in venue.

    I have no trouble calling it a sport. Or a hobby. Or commuting. Same tool, different applications.

    So, the rest of you cranks, get your sticks outta the mud. :D
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  18. DudeClone

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    yeah OP also calls it "a hobby" which i would never call it and i think it conveys "the wrong image", too. as he put it

    so he can call it a hobby but others cannot a sport? i mean to me a hobby is the internet, not riding my bikes. to my mind riding is more a sport then a hobby

    its most likely just our own POV's. for instance i HATE the term "toy" to describe any motorcycle and took umbrage recently when used to describe some motorcycles in a post. poster said "well, how about "Big Boy Toys?"

    hey, fine with me. i still think a grown man referring to his stuff as "toys" is a bit desperate for my sensibilities but wtf do i know or care?

    so you want some BIG BOY TOYS, be my guest!

    just don't be too sporting on 'em :rofl
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  19. klaviator

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    I consider it a sport, among other things. I really don't care how you define it. It is what it is.

    It is a competition, even on the street. When I ride, I compete with myself, trying to ride that perfect line through that curve, or just improve my skills. I compete with gravity, trying to remain upright. I suppose if you ride your bike the way the typical cage driver drives, then it is not a sport. Then it's just transportation and the bike just an appliance. Your skills will never improve beyond a basic level.

    Even when I ride for transportation, I enjoy the ride and view every curve as entertainment and a chance to practice my skills. It's transportainment...............and a SPORT.

    Off road, it's definately as sport. Riding hard off road can be as tiring as any other sport I have tried. Anyone who doesn't consider off road riding a sport has never ridden anything challenging.
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  20. MotoTex

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    When you are running from a mugger then it IS a sport because you have to, right? :lol3

    I think that some people who wouldn't put forth the effort to compete prefer to massage their ego by calling their pastime a sport. Thus, after enough time in use this way the lexicon accepts the alternative definition as valid.

    Somewhere recently I read that the Oxford English Dictionary has added SRSLY as a defined English word. Go figure. I don't think that was very sporting of them to do so.

    Words don't have meanings, people have meanings for words.
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