The Summer of Stupid: 7400+ miles of 2up - OBCDR, CDT, TAT West and more...

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by LittleWan, Aug 19, 2010.

  1. tweetie

    tweetie Long timer

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    Thanks again, Kelly, for taking the time to put together such an entertaining RR! I really enjoyed it!

    And thanks for taking the time to do a run through on your 990, Matt!

    p.s. I knit as well. Badly, for the record. You should see Geek's ski toque I just finished the decreases on about a month ago. :rofl I still have to do the ear flaps and braids. Major brownie points if he ever wears it. :lol3
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    Bravo!!!:clap

    Thanks for all the laughs, BW holding bigfoots hand:rofl ... now that was some funny shit... I could go back and reread and fill several pages of quotes with the great one liners...

    Very entertaining RR for sure.

    Thank you for all the effort, great pics, clever writing, awesome maps:lol3

    BW, if you get that aux tank figured out let me know, i have the same same with mine also...

    Scott
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    MTrider16 Ridin' in MT

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    Wow! I finished it. Great job writing and pic editing for this report. Thanks for all your work. Cool to see some of the folks from some of the other boards here also.

    David
  4. cdndog

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    Thanks you 2 for taking the time and making the effort to share this with us. Until the next one then, see ya!
  5. LisaS

    LisaS Dubious Adventurer

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    just got back from our first 2-up dirt ride- am now even more impressed with the Wans:bow Thanks Kelly for sending me the PM with the advice for 2-up dirt riding- it really helped! Definitely a different experience for both of us though- will take some getting used to!:huh :D We are just happy we stayed upright!:clap
    BigWan- Jerry wants to know if you modified the suspension on your bike at all for 2-up riding? We are on a DR650, jerry lowered the foot pegs 5 inches, but will still need to reposition them- I felt they were too far foreward. The suspension was definitely at its limits with the two of us.

    Make 2-up dirt your favorite!:D :clap
  6. nuggets

    nuggets It's all my fault...

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    LittleWan, would you mind posting the 2up riding advice for the rest of us since the RR is over? A little copy-pasta action please.
  7. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    Hi guys!
    :wave

    Thank you so much for the lovely notes and comments! :shog
    I'm just glad you all hung in there and kept reading. It was a lot of fun, huh?
    I'm still trying to reply to most of the post-RR comments via PM so I can be more personal (hope I haven't missed anyone...)
    :mully

    However, there were a few things that seemed like they should be addressed here, in public...


    Hi nuggets!
    Okay, this is pretty much what you (and a couple of others) asked for -
    I just cut and pasted the text from the PM.
    I was responding to some questions from LisaS, so parts of it don't make perfect sense, but you can figure it out.
    Again - not trying to preach here, just answering some questions.
    What's that thing they say? "Your mileage may vary..."
    :dunno

    Okay, 2 up...

    this is just what works for us, I'm not saying this is the only way.
    I've read that some people like to stand when 2up, but we rarely do that.
    Sometimes we'll both stand, but usually just so I can stretch my legs.
    We'll only do it in fairly straight (gentle curves are OK), flat areas and never going faster than 40-45mph.


    I can't see when Matt stands (even if I'm standing), so it's not my favorite.
    Maybe if there are a lot of
    vados (those drainage berms at a low point of a road), or whoops, we can go faster if we're both standing.
    But, overall it feels more dangerous.
    That's a lot of weight up high, and if I can't see, I can't anticipate what's coming.
    Fooling around, we have done some tiny jumps with both of us standing, but matt has to tell me when to squeeze my legs.
    It's fun, but scary!


    When we're both seated, I can watch the road and know what to expect.
    He usually can't tell that I'm there, if I'm doing my job correctly.
    For us, it's safer to be seated and we go plenty fast, even over rough stuff.


    As far as as our luggage goes - I don't use the bag as a backrest.
    It does keep me from sliding back, but I don't lean on it on purpose.
    We had a hard case - for exactly one ride.
    I hated that thing. It hit me in the back when we were in rocks and was generally annoying.


    When we don't have luggage, I have to hang on a little tighter when taking photos/shooting video.
    And, I do feel like I'm slipping off when we accelerate (although it could also be because we're going faster without luggage...).
    But, it's nice to be on a bare bike, too.


    I don't know what kind of seat your husband has on his bike, but we have a Renazco seat and the suede surface is really nice and grippy.
    Our old bike also had a Renazco, but it was a vinyl covered one and it was slippery.
    I had to work a lot harder at not sliding under Matt when he stood up.
    I much prefer the suede.


    The most important thing as a passenger is to be calm and relaxed and have fun.
    Ease your way into it and only do what you feel comfortable with.
    It will be easier for your husband if you are loose and enjoying yourself.
    If you're tense and hating it, the ride sucks for everyone!
    Hope that wasn't too long.
    Good luck and have a great time!



    Well, hope that's interesting or helpful for the 2up crowd.
    I'm happy that this report is encouraging more of you to try 2up dirt!
    Just be careful!
    Two-up crashing is really scary, and I don't want anyone getting hurt. :nono



    Hi Lisa! Glad you guys are trying out the dirt! :D
    So far, Matt has increased the spring rate on the forks.
    Eventually, he'd like to re-valve the front and back and go with even stiffer springs.
    Even a stock 990S has pretty awesome suspension, though...:wink:


    PinkPillion's comment (hi PP! :D) reminded me that I have some decent video from that ride we took in Sept.
    BigWan and I went back to the PCQ to re-ride days 6, 7, 8.
    It was a really fun weekend!)

    I also took a couple with-snow/without-snow trail comparison photos...
    They're kind of fun.
    So, in the name of "From whence we came"/"circle of life" or something like that...
    (and on account of the fact that I miss you guys, too :cry)
    I'll do a short mini-RR addendum (probably 2-3 posts) sometime next week.
    I have some work tomorrow, so maybe tuesday or wednesday?

    :deal

    Yay!



    Hi Questor!
    Here's one more...




    Still miss 'em?

    :lol3

    see you guys next week with that mini-ride report...


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  8. Tn. Walrus

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  10. brents347

    brents347 Trusting my Cape...

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    LittleWan,

    I don't have any without snow pics, but I have some pics that are strikingly similar to the ones you took dropping down to Gold Lake. This area is right in my backyard, and I knew that when we crested the ridge we would be dropping down a Northern exposure (holding more snow later in Spring) to Gold Lake. Our main concern from up at this point on the hill was that the snow might carry all the way to the North edge of the lake in which case we were truly screwed.

    Mine were taken on June 19, 2009. Here's a quick comparison, your pics on top and mine right below. Pretty cool, huh?

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    Great RR! I've really enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to the re-ride photos!

    Brent
  11. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    Hi Brent! I thought you would have had a lot more snow in June. :huh
    I guess 2010 was a year with late snow, considering that BigWan and I were there in July...
    :dunno


    Snow-free photos coming up! :deal





    Okay, as you may or may not remember, we started our Summer of Stupid with a couple days from R-dubb’'s Pacific Crest Quest (pages 1 and 2 of this report).
    We did our best to follow the GPS tracks, but due to the aforementioned unexpected snow, we missed part of the trail. :cry
    It seemed wrong to claim to have ridden those days, when we were unable to ride portions of the PCQ, so in September 2010, we went back.
    :ricky



    We went South to North in July, and North to South in September.
    In order to keep it from being too confusing, I'’ll try to just give you the most interesting parts of the trail




    You guys know I hate Google Earth, and vice versa. :bluduh
    Here is a rough map of our tracks - I added the city/hwy info by hand.
    We covered the PCQ from Lassen to Hwy 88

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    City/Highway map with key towns highlighted.

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    PCQ: bay area to Chester 325 miles


    After leaving the bay area, we took Hwy 505 to Hwy 16.

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    We got on the gravel, near Stonyford, and made our way towards Red Bluff.

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    There’'s Mount Lassen!

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    We rode through the park.

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    Lassen has several geothermal areas.

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    It was getting late and we needed to find a place to camp.
    We found a nice one near Wilson Lake.

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    Up this road...
    It looked like it *might* have been closed, but we weren't sure. :evil

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    I'’m a jumpy "free camper." I like to be pretty far off the beaten path.

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    This was perfect. Except for the Prophecy vibe...
    (I think of that scene every time I zip up my mummy bag :eekers)

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    325.7 miles today.

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  12. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    PCQ: Chester to Lake Basin (near Gold Lake) 171 miles



    It was a beautiful morning.
    We stopped to consult Norm and I noticed some movement in the plants.
    Chipmunks!
    They were climbing up the stalks, in search of something tasty. :D

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    Alright, so here’'s the trail.

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    Very lightly used...

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    In July, we missed this due to snow.

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    Here'’s the spring...

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    Caribou Rd was a twisty one! :evil

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    The PCQ could use a little work - there'’s too much slab...

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    And closed roads.
    We went down this one...

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    Until it dead-ended. :dirtdog

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    We bent our front rim somewhere around here. :cry
    Whacked a square babyhead - we just nicked the corner, but we were going fast enough to do this:

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    More slab. :bluduh

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    Was this another closed road? Not sure...
    :dunno

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    There were a few leaks. We took a look around, for journalistic purposes. :evil

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    There'’s this.

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    And this. And another gate at the end.

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    Do yourself a favor - don'’t bother with this section. :nah
    Instead of going through the gate, continue on the main road for a little bit (1/4 mile or so) and make your first left (going North to South).
    It’'s really not worth taking the closed road, and that 2nd gate is pretty tough to get around.
    Um, I mean, in theory. :wink:




    It sure is pretty up here.

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    We stayed at Lake Basin campground.
    If you continue on to Gold Lake, there’s a free section of the campground.
    It’'s after the rocky part (if you'’re going North to South).
    Go there instead. :deal


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    You can see Gold Lake below...

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  14. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    Haha!
    Hy Pyrate! :wave
    Naw, this is just a one day dealie...





    PCQ: Gold Lake to French Meadows 131 miles


    We were using tracks from R-dubb's day 7.

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    Gold Lake

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    There was a rockier section, but some jeeps were blocking the road so I didn't get photos.
    BigWan couldn'’t pick a line - he just took what was open.
    Of course, what was open had the biggest rocks.




    We came through here in July, but we were so tired after struggling in the snow, I didn'’t take any photos.
    Now, I'm making up for it! :lol3

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    This is the video I posted back on page 21 (post #305).
    I’'m trying to keep all of the PCQ stuff together (this RR needs an index).
    Back in July, we had had a bunch of watercrossings.
    I think that'’s what we’re talking about in the video - it was hard to recognize the road when it was dry.






    That video ends close to the free section of the campground.
    We talked to some guys who were staying there - they said it was great.
    The rocks really keep out the riff-raff! :lol3



    Here’'s a video you haven'’t seen yet.
    This is leaving Gold Lake on Butcher Ranch Road.
    In July, we blasted down this hill, so happy to get out of the snow!






    This started to look familiar...

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    It was kind of hard to take snow-less photos in the right spots.
    We were just guessing where the snow-covered pics were taken.

    I got lucky with a few of them! :thumb



    Here's a reminder of how our ride was going in July:

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    BigWan left that stick at the base of the tree...

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    This one is a little tougher.
    I was standing too far to the left for the non-snowy picture.
    You have to use your imagination...

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    The ride was a hell of a lot faster without snow!
    That section was over in a blink.

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    We had some “fall colors” :D

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    Watercrossing

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    Butcher Ranch was great in either direction. :D
    It’'s a real highlight of the trail. :nod
    Going North to South you’ll hit more uphill stuff,
    but South to North was just as fun. :thumb

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  15. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    PCQ: Gold Lake to French Meadows continued...




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    Hmm...
    Should we check this out?
    You know we like big buttes...(hi questor! :wave)

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    We didn't notice this road last time...
    It was pretty fun!






    Hey, a lookout tower!
    Let'’s go up there...:nod

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    There'’s a gate on the road to the lookout tower.
    (No pics)
    When we got up there, some official looking jeep guys were unlocking the gate...:scratch
    We tagged along and took a quick peek.

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    I wish I had taken video - the road up to the lookout was pretty steep and rocky.
    But, it was dusty with the jeeps.



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    You can see we were just as overloaded as ever...:lol3

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    I walked around and took photos once we stopped.

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    Here'’s a pic of the road.
    You can kind of see the line we took...

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    Looking back down at the trail...

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    Check out the view...

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    I think that’'s Sierra Buttes road - we'’ll be taking it later...
    (see it down there in the green stuff?)

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    Okay, we need to get out of here...
    We’'re getting nasty looks from hikers and it doesn'’t seem like we'’re supposed to be up near the lookout...
    That'’s what we get for hanging out with jeeps. :evil

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    I totally forgot to take a video going down the steep section. :pissed
    Gah! I suck at this.
    Well, here’'s part of our descent (after the good stuff, of course :rolleyes)
    You can hear me laughing in the middle of the vid.
    I had just told matt to ride carefully, there were a lot of hikers around.
    He assured me, "“don'’t worry, I’'ll ride cool...”"
    Uh huh.
    (sorry for the wind noise)






    :lol3


    I love Sierra Buttes Road...

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  16. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    PCQ: Gold Lake to French Meadows concluded...



    Leaving Sierra City, you go towards a small subdivision called
    Green Acres.
    The GPS tracks are pretty jacked up in this section.



    This is where you'’re supposed to turn onto the trail...

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    Yeah, that's not going to work...:huh

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    Instead, we took this path, further up the road.

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    It was being blocked intentionally. :dunno

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    Oh, riiight.
    This is close to where we found that scary axe murderer camp in July...


    If you're on FR 54, stay on it.
    (don'’t go right if you’'re doing the trail N to S,
    don'’t go left if you'’re doing it S to N)
    There’'s definitely something sketchy happening at that camp.
    Meth lab, maybe? Dunno.



    Here’'s the "trail."

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    This creek crossing kind of sucks in either direction.
    Maybe worse going North to South.

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    I think this is FR 54.

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    Mmmm...silty.

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    Camped at French Meadows.
    Elevation 5368 ft

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    Maybe this post will make more sense with a map:
    Our GPS tracks are in blue. Our jacked up detour didn't show up for some reason. The creepy camp is roughly where that X is.

    The pink dots show the route you should take (FR 54).

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    See, this shows that FR 54 should work out...

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    Haha, I'm finally getting the hang of this...
    One more map for good measure :D

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  17. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    PCQ: French Meadows to Highway 88 131 miles




    Next time, we would stay at Hell Hole instead.
    It’'s only $5 (no water) and we would have had it all to ourselves. :nod

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    This section of the PCQ is mostly pavement. :fitz
    It really sucked. :nah
    There’'s all kinds of good dirt around here...someone needs to draw up a new route!




    BigWan took me here just for the photo op.
    (He had been here once before, on a Gold Country Dual Sport ride)
    Uncle Tom's Cabin.

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    We were so sick of the slab, we started to improvise.
    This one looked good...

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    The trail was pretty much washed out - most of the road was gone.

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    We found a workaround and continued...

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    Hey, is that bear scat?

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    Uh oh. This pile was really fresh...just riding near it, we could smell the aroma of berry jam!

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    We kept riding a little further...

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    Okay, it'’s probably not a great idea to sneak up on bears, in the bush...
    We stopped here and turned around.

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    Washed out road from the other side...

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    On the way back, we noticed this for the first time...

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    Crap. :arg

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    Let'’s get out of here!

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  18. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    PCQ concluded...903 miles total






    So much for exploring...:rolleyes

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    Lunchtime. My burger.
    BigWan had a cheeseburger.

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    Kyburz.
    Got fuel, too.

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    Found another lookout. :D

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    This was a fun ride.

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    Here we go. Leek Springs Lookout.

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    Okay, that was the last of the interesting stuff. :cry
    There was a little more dirt,
    then the rest of the day was boring slab. :bore



    I like this shot, though.

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    So, our little excursion was just over 900 miles. :D
    Mostly really fun.




    We toasted the front rim, but Matt had been expecting it.
    The stock KTM rims are pretty shitty.

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    Our new Woody's rim has arrived, and matt already put it on...
    Excel A-60, superlaced. :rayof
    Haha, all the money we save on haircuts, maps and doctor visits goes right to the bike...:D

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    All righty, now I feel like the ride report is complete. :thumb
    Are we done?

    Yeah, we're done.



    Done and doner
    :lol3



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    I leave you with one last video, taken on Sierra Buttes.



    Again, BigWan was supposed to be "riding cool," but he gets progressively faster.
    At the very end, it looks like the video is fast forwarding - but it's just him hitting the gas!
    I needed to stop filming and hold on. :lol3





    (Bronco3738 and I had a weird psychic moment on 11/14...
    I was uploading this clip, just as he was posting his comment [post #930]...
    Spooky!)





    Thanks for stopping by (again).
    Now, go hit the dirt!
    And then do a ride report...:deal

    We all need something else to read!

    :wave


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    Bronco3738 Mike

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    More nice pics and videos!