The Toolkit Thread

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by hilslamer, Sep 2, 2007.

  1. meat popsicle

    meat popsicle Ignostic

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    I did not find the energy to read THIS whole diatribe on fannypacks, but I am posting it here because I had no idea why they don't call them fannypacks in England:

    vagina bag... :rofl

    That said, I would probably still use one (I'm in touch with my feminine side :smooch) but between my tool box, tank bag, and Kelty Sherman backpack - which I use because it doubles as moderate back protection - I don't need anything else.

    :beer on a great thread hilslammer!
  2. RobTheRigger

    RobTheRigger Killing threads here since 2008

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  3. matloik

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    :rofl

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  4. Rectaltronics

    Rectaltronics Barned

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    After all this Britt Leis and Lia Koehn stuff going on this week (look it up if you haven't heard) I have something crucially important to add to your toolkits:

    AN INSURANCE CARD!

    If you are employed, scrutinize your insurance carefully and supplement your coverage as necessary, via additional carriers if need be. Either way, buy thorough coverage that anticipates your needs and your companion's (including airlift), that covers your destinations, get it from a respected outfit, and memorize all the relevant numbers on it.
  5. Hotfoot

    Hotfoot Been here awhile

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    Tim

    LOL! I had to laugh at the responses you got. Your spot on of course. When it comes to this sort of thing, ideas are like assholes everyone has got one, and you will never convince the majority that you are right and they are just plain full of shit. LOL!
    If I carried the gear that some of these jokers are recommending you could use me as an anchor for the Queen Mary. Oh my god this is great.
    What I don't personally know from experience I choose to rely on others that have been there and done that, and I include the quality of that experienc as well.
    I don't include crashing around the desert like a drunken rhino any sort of experience.

    Experienced desert racers know there shit and that's all there is to it.

    Enjoy your info and experience and I have added to my own by reading of this material.

    Ride safe
    Tom
  6. jesusgatos

    jesusgatos fishing with dynamite

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    Reading this thread got me motivated to put together a nice little toolkit.

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    from left-to-right:
    L-shaped handle with assorted allen bits & screwdriver bits
    sparkplug socket (from a KTM toolkit? don't remember)
    6, 8, 10, 12, 14mm sockets, stored on a carb needle puller tool
    hex-drive 1/4" socket adapter
    1/4" wobble extension
    short 1/4" extension
    Husky 1/4" and hex driver
    8/10 & 12/14 open-end combo wrenches (looking for better quality replacements for the ones I'm carrying)
    spoke wrench (need to buy a smaller/lighter one)
    locking surgical scissors
    Craftsman duckbill adjustable wrench (just big enough for the axle nuts on my bikes)
    Irwin 6LN needle-nose locking vise-grips
    small combo pliers
    hacksaw blade (cut to same length as tire levers)
    shop towel (paper)
    shop towel (cotton)
    nitril gloves
    1qt oil containers (I keep all my tools in these)

    Wachs showed me this trick a while ago and I think it's a great way to carry tools.

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    Roll 'em up.

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    Stuff everything into one of the containers.

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    Then slide one over other container to create a really compact little toolcase and you don't have to worry about sharp tools poking through fabric, tubes, water bladders, kidneys, etc. Plus, the containers are pretty handy for transferring fuel, or oil or whatever.

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    from bottom-right counterclockwise:
    21" tube (carry a rear too on longer trips)
    two Motion-Pro tire-levers
    hacksaw blade (also shown in previous pictures, I store it with the tire-levers)
    Blackburn mtb pump w/ 550 paracord wrapped around handle (because a length of rope is always handy to have)
    patch kit
    spare valve core (stored in a valve stem I cut out of an old tube)
    valve-core tool
    small amount of radiator stop-leak
    spare spark plug (for whatever bike I'm riding)
    liquid-steel (or equivalent) two-part epoxy, wrapped with electrical & duct tape (post-it notes stored inside tube w/ epoxy)
    surgical tubing (for transferring fuel)
    assorted zip-ties
    master-links (for whatever bike I'm riding)
    misc. hardware
    electrical stuff - spare fuses, butt-splice connectors, bullet-connectors, assorted electrical terminal-ends, shrink-tube, etc.
    length of 16ga hi-temp electrical wire
    bicycle derailleur cable (to use as emergency replacement for any broken cables)
    butt-splice connector for fuel-line
    *I've been meaning to go buy some hose-clamps

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    from bottom-right counterclockwise:
    emergency water-filter straw (carry a better one on longer rides)
    lighter
    flashlight (would like to replace that Mag-lite with a little LED headlamp)
    pocket knife (CRKT M16T)
    mini-compass (carry GPS & paper maps most of the time)
    tinder / fire-starters (in that little red headlamp container)
    space-pen
    Fox40 whistle & magnesium flint
    chapstick
    pipe & smoke
    earplugs
    Krazy Glue (for glueing skin back together)
    Visene
    sanitary wipes & toilet paper
    mini-saw
    emergency space-blanket
    assorted first-aid stuff & container (old glasses case) for first-aid stuff

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    Bag-of-choice to haul all this crap. I really like these DaKine packs. Pictured is the Apex. The Nomad and Drafter are both nice packs too (I have one of each of them). Feature-for-feature, I think they're WAY nicer than Camelbak's packs. But the Nalgene bladders they come with SUCK (I use Camelbak bladders).

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    I used almost every tool, spare part and piece of survival gear that I was carrying while we were riding up in Gifford Pinchot last weekend.

    Just wanted to say thanks again for all the good information in this thread. I found it really useful, and I'm sure others have too.
  7. jesusgatos

    jesusgatos fishing with dynamite

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  8. hilslamer

    hilslamer 2XRedheadedstepchild

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    :clap

    That's an EXCELLENT idea, and suits both dirtbike guys and adventure bike guys similarly. When I was a kid, I'd take the bottom of Prestone anti-freeze jugs, put a small electric motor in them and set the rudder so they turned large circles while motoring around the local pond. Why? so I could practice hitting a moving target with my Red Ryder! LOL...yes, I was a wierd kid...but I never came up with the above idea, very very slick. And free, or almost. And quite versatile.

    I forgot ALL ABOUT the all-important pipe & smoke in my post detailing "first aid". Not sure how a glass one would survive a crash though... :rofl

    Parachute cord is another one I've just been too lazy to add...gotta get on this.

    What brand of Mini-saw is that? I've carried the ultra-cheap (and ultra-fragile) "Coughlan's" one for years, but eventually removed it because it was so unrealiable when I most needed it.

    Awesome layout job and list, learned a few things in there!


    Isn't the little red container to the left of the Mag-lite a Petzl headlamp? I have one too, but only in my general carry backpack...
  9. cat

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    +1 Thanks, jesusgatos. Good one. It's been a while since there was such an interesting post here. I like the matter-of-fact reference to the pipe, it's making me think of taking it up again. :nod And I'm going to try the container thing, I think I've got one or two at home. (Don't they get stuck?)

    You need a Fenix P1D instead of the Mag-lite. :deal fenix-store.com
  10. hilslamer

    hilslamer 2XRedheadedstepchild

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    It's almost like the rest of us forgot that it was essential...duhuuuh!
  11. cat

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    Yes. Better sleep, less camping gear needed. Lighter. :D ...Maybe even better appreciation of the nature.
  12. jesusgatos

    jesusgatos fishing with dynamite

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    That's all Wachs. I'm not sure if it's his idea, or something that someone else showed him. Has been working really well for me though. I've got a neat idea for a tool-wrap that I'd like to make, but these oil containers work so well that I haven't bothered.

    I'll trade you some para cord for a few hose-clamps. Most of this stuff isn't expensive, we just have to go out of our way to put it together. It's a little bit of a scavenger hunt, isn't it?

    Sorry, I don't remember what type of mini-saw that it is. Might actually be one of those cheap Coughlan's ones. It's made out of something similar to a bicycle brake cable, with knotted wire running through/around it. This one has always worked really well though. Never broken, and it's been used a fair bit. I bought one of these and returned it. Didn't work nearly as well and it was MUCH heavier.

    The case that I keep that mini-saw in is from a pair of nice(er) headphones that I bought a few years ago. Perfect fit.

    Yes, it's a Petzl headlamp CASE, but I don't have the headlamp that is supposed to be inside it. I keep fire tinder in there (dryer lint, small bits of fire-starter logs, etc.).

    Notice the theme of recycling containers? All of my tools are kept together, all of my spare parts and are kept together, I keep all of my emergency/survival stuff together, etc. For anything that doesn't need to be sealed or stored in a hard case, I like to use silk pouches (like the ones that goggles come in). They come in all types of sizes and help me keep stuff organized without adding any weight or bulk.

    A couple of months ago, I broke a chain on my 250 and realized that I was only carrying a master-link for my 650. I had forgotten to switch-out my spark plug and master-link. Now instead of keeping bike-specific stuff with the rest of my tools and spare parts, I keep them in separate bike-specific bags. Makes it easy to switch-out any bike-specific spare parts and/or tools depending on what bike I'm riding, and I can swap everything into a larger/smaller bag (depending on the ride) in just a few minutes when I don't have to worry/think about packing stuff individually.

    Those look cool. I'd like to be carrying two lights. Something like a Surefire Defender and a little LED headlamp. Being out after dark isn't a big deal until something goes wrong. I've been grateful to have that Maglite with me a few times for sure, but it leaves a lot to be desired.

    The oil containers 'nest' into each other perfectly, but you've got to break 'em in right.

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    See how one of short edges of the container in the back has been re-shaped to allow it to slide inside the other container? Just push in (gently) with one of your fingers on one of the short sides of the container (the one that all your tools are in) when you slide the oil containers together for the first few times. Mine maintains that shape now and and they are easy to pull apart, they don't come apart unless you want them too. The oil containers that wachs used have small ribs around them, and those things seal like tupperware.


    You guys crack me up.
  13. cat

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    :D

    Yes, I need to get more of some things - like the visegrips - and sort out my medical stuff, duplicate some of it, and see what I can fit in my superduke tail.

    Talking about tupperware, these are good for medical/first-aid stuff, fully waterproof, silicon seals. Lock n Lock. The smallest ones not much bigger than a cigarette pack.

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    Light spoke wrenches, I've got these, DRC:

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    7075 alloy, the ends screw in, they come in sets with different sizes.

    Good guy, famous on supermotojunkie for excellent service: http://www.wheelingcyclesupply.com/shop?action=category&cat_id=64

    Have you seen the zebralight headlamps? Tiny aluminum tube, 1AA, all flood, perfect for working on bikes when there's not enough light. Simple reliable twist switch.
  14. jesusgatos

    jesusgatos fishing with dynamite

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    Thanks for the tip on those spoke wrenches Cat. I just picked-up a few hose clamps, an Acerbis spark plug holder and a 0-20psi air pressure gauge. I'm getting to the point where I'm looking at all this stuff and wondering what I can leave out...
  15. cat

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    Yes - that's the hardest part of the process. :norton

    Hose clamps ! Yes,..you can live without the air pressure gauge, but...you could quite easily need a hose clamp if a coolant hose came off, you can't easily fix those..crimp clamps.
  16. swingset

    swingset Got the knack.

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    That's how it goes. I bought a pressure-guage that attaches to my key ring, just so it's not intrusive but I have one wherever I go.

    Hose clamps I just attach lightly around a section of hose already on the bike. No losing them, no stashing them. If I need one, take it off of one place, put it on another. I try to do that all over the bike with stuff, so I'm not lugging a huge gear bag but I've got all the little shit. One of my large hex key wrenches hose-clamped to a shift or brake lever will repair a broken lever end.

    In my time of fixing, I don't care what I decide to do without, it's the one thing I end up needing....so I tend to pack too much, but trying to eliminate duplicate things serves a gear-hog too.
  17. jesusgatos

    jesusgatos fishing with dynamite

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    After thinking about it a bit, I decided that I'd like to get some of that weight off my back and I want to make a little more room in my pack for other stuff (like food and more WEED - haha). So today I ordered a front fender bag from Dirt-Bike-Gear.com. Their stuff looks really well-made and I like how their front fender back attaches to the forks.

    I also ordered a tool wrap because while I really like the oil-container tool kit, I'd like to make my tools a little bit more accessible. It's easy enough to get into, but I have to roll everything up very carefully because all the tools are loose in there. So I think I'm going to put all of the survival stuff and my first aid kit that I don't use very often in the oil container instead.
  18. jesusgatos

    jesusgatos fishing with dynamite

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    I designed these open-end wrench bits to fit into a hex-bit driver, thinking that it would be cool to be able to carry a few of these bits instead of 2-3 combination wrenches. Then I found these. Anybody used any of their tools?

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  19. jesusgatos

    jesusgatos fishing with dynamite

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    Kinda cool that they're offering spoke wrench hex-bits too. Nothing new under the sun, huh?
  20. tomatocity

    tomatocity Retired and lovin' it

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    Thanks Jesus. I definitely need to start collecting and testing bags and tools for next years trips. I keep forgetting I have a front fender that will handle a small bag. The tools are also cool.